Moving Abroad - Why or Why Not?

**minicarph** · November 5th, 2018 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Pansin ko nga na common complaint yun about living abroad - na mag-isa ka to do your house chores.

Same tayo, wala rin kaming maid so doing house chores isn't new to me anymore.

I think the loneliness and starting at the bottom of the food chain are the bigger drawbacks of moving abroad.

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when i was in Europe last may, despite my hectic schedule. I felt so lonely in the hotel pag 9pm na. It was Kassel Germany, I mean the place is so progressive, very nice scenes, landmarks. world class unesco heritage.

pero at the end of they day I felt so lonely. I felt that I did not belong to that place even though it so beautiful and magestic and the local Germans even had a car show in their town.

so dun ko na-realize na Europe, America they are for input for you, to change something in you so that when you go back to the Philippines, you're kinda refreshed, re-ergenized. but to imagine to live there for good, is like killing yourself as early as when you migrated.

ma-feel mo yan eh yan loneliness there is pain but not physical somewhat inner pain somewhat in the spiritual realm na why are you here, you cannot stay here its not compatible with your soul.

**travajante** · November 5th, 2018 10:09 PM

Been "HELPless" for a while by choice. Never could find comfort in passing on discomfort. Guess no amount of bleaching can whiten the blue collar.[emoji17]

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**minicarph** · November 5th, 2018 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

Been "HELPless" for a while by choice. Never could find comfort in passing on discomfort. Guess no amount of bleaching can whiten the blue collar.[emoji17]

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simple lang yan bro. determine the one that you are running away from, i dont know basta alam mo na yan. go face it. im not saying those are the answers. but it could be the first step. if you dont act now, that darkness will creep up to you and you will end up like the so many grown ups we see today, lost and pretending

atsaka nga pala, dont pay too much attention to money. yes money can be a limiter. pero, para sakin kasi experience first utang later.

**travajante** · November 5th, 2018 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

na-sense mo din ba na kaya lang yun ibang tao binibigyan ng anak kasi hinde nila kaya or they are too coward or too comfort seeking to fulfill their purpose so the son or the daughter will help their redemption. nagkakarun sila ng secondary purpose whereas ang true purpose nila di na nila maitutuloy pa.

napansin ko eto sa matatanda eh, after say like taking of their sons and daughters pag dating nila ng 60 naging grumpy na sila and destroying the lives of their sons and daughters. that is clear manifestation that they failed their true purpose and they blame their kids for not accomplishing that purpose

I tend to believe that this world is a test for all of us. there are so many aids kung at one point mag dark ka, meron ****, meron beer/alak, casino, meron mga 4x4 trucks and sportscars but those are given to us so that we can enjoy for a brief moment and beat the darkside and then continue on with our purpose

i have also observed this sa mga kebigan ko mayayaman, na may tig 1M na relo, 10M na porsche, they feel so empty even if they have an english speaking kid na pumapasok sa international school

sa tingin ko madami mayaman ngaun ang totoong purpose talaga with their talents is to become NGO. and yet they wasted those talents to get rich, not to make a difference like for example magpaligo ng mga katutubo sa isang isolated sa Pilipinas

The big picture I see is stripped down simple. Joy in giving way & guilt in self-first. Oddly wired, I know.[emoji17]

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**travajante** · November 5th, 2018 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

atsaka nga pala, dont pay too much attention to money. yes money can be a limiter. pero, para sakin kasi experience first utang later.

I can't pay attention to what I can't see.[emoji41]
Pardon our troll talk, guys.[emoji4]

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**minicarph** · November 5th, 2018 10:52 PM

ah alam ko na wala ka pa girlfriend? masyado ka poetic magsalita. but dont be mad at me im not attacking. if that is how you want to speak it's fine. its' you. malamang mahilig ka magbasa

ganito na lang, there are two things you can do, elimnate that energy yes that feeling of being so poetic and rhyming baka yan ang nagpipigil sa yo to discover your path. OR sabi ko nga, harness it, it can be your source of true power.

so first, find a jologs girl, punta ka sa mga lugar na hinde mga sosy na malls, sa ermita, sa malate or you fountain dun sa roxas blvd. stay there fine somebody you can love or fall in love with. flower girl, sampaguita girl, prosti bahala ka na. love her. hanggang dyan lang muna hihi

**travajante** · November 5th, 2018 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

ah alam ko na wala ka pa girlfriend? masyado ka poetic magsalita. but dont be mad at me im not attacking. if that is how you want to speak it's fine. its' you. malamang mahilig ka magbasa

ganito na lang, there are two things you can do, elimnate that energy yes that feeling of being so poetic and rhyming baka yan ang nagpipigil sa yo to discover your path. OR sabi ko nga, harness it, it can be your source of true power.

so first, find a jologs girl, punta ka sa mga lugar na hinde mga sosy na malls, sa ermita, sa malate or you fountain dun sa roxas blvd. stay there fine somebody you can love or fall in love with. flower girl, sampaguita girl, prosti bahala ka na. love her. hanggang dyan lang muna hihi

[emoji1787] Hermit life is bliss, OB. My comfort zone is very limited.[emoji14]

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**2lits17** · November 6th, 2018 12:27 PM

I also live and work abroad currently for 8 yrs na, but long term wise i still want to go back to pinas, i know it will be hard to adjust again when i'm back to pinas but for the sake of my children, i dont like the attitude of the kids here kahit yun mga pinoy friends ko na here na may kids na dito na nag aral and all, they are very independent and no values. one time sinisigawan pa ng bata yun magulang niya tapos yun magulang sunod lang sa bata kumpleto pa sa gadgets, kasi yun friends may ipad at iphone dapat siya meron din. mataas din suicide rate at depression ng mga kids, failed grade lang depress na, feeling failure at mag suicide na. sarap isama sa pinas sa slums para marealize nila gano sila kaswerte compared sa mga bata sa slums.

usually my friends who migrated abroad always tell me the reason is because PI is very dirty, traffic always, daming bad elements, snatchers, pickpockets, massacre, ang gulo ng pinas daming patayan daming natural disasters, because that is what the media is feeding everyone puro bad news.

but come to think of it. Sa USA, walang snatcher pero daming psycho na anytime pwede mamaril. Sa europe dami din pickpockets at kawatan kahit saan, lalo na pag foreign looking ka. So kahit saan country may risk talaga, some here are correct, we need to go and live on a foreign land to realize what we are missing in our home country. but of course meron din ibang tao na naka pag work lang abroad they treat PI like a trash, minsan pag nakakarinig ako ng ganun na kwentuhan from strangers sarap barahin.

**erdiedizon** · November 6th, 2018 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by 2lits17

I also live and work abroad currently for 8 yrs na, but long term wise i still want to go back to pinas, i know it will be hard to adjust again when i'm back to pinas but for the sake of my children, i dont like the attitude of the kids here kahit yun mga pinoy friends ko na here na may kids na dito na nag aral and all, they are very independent and no values. one time sinisigawan pa ng bata yun magulang niya tapos yun magulang sunod lang sa bata kumpleto pa sa gadgets, kasi yun friends may ipad at iphone dapat siya meron din. mataas din suicide rate at depression ng mga kids, failed grade lang depress na, feeling failure at mag suicide na. sarap isama sa pinas sa slums para marealize nila gano sila kaswerte compared sa mga bata sa slums.

usually my friends who migrated abroad always tell me the reason is because PI is very dirty, traffic always, daming bad elements, snatchers, pickpockets, massacre, ang gulo ng pinas daming patayan daming natural disasters, because that is what the media is feeding everyone puro bad news.

but come to think of it. Sa USA, walang snatcher pero daming psycho na anytime pwede mamaril. Sa europe dami din pickpockets at kawatan kahit saan, lalo na pag foreign looking ka. So kahit saan country may risk talaga, some here are correct, we need to go and live on a foreign land to realize what we are missing in our home country. but of course meron din ibang tao na naka pag work lang abroad they treat PI like a trash, minsan pag nakakarinig ako ng ganun na kwentuhan from strangers sarap barahin.

100% agree with u, and we are in the same situation actually. Wife and I have 2 kids both girls, its our 13 years na in abroad. In fact im already excited to go back home for good, sarap ng buhay sa pinas eh.

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**Vodka** · November 6th, 2018 01:55 PM

dapat mag set up ng island dito sa PH na walang jeeps and tricycles. bawal 2-stroke. bawal diesel. shoot to kill ang mga kamote riders/drivers, at mga nagkakalat ng basura