Excise Tax? When June 2017 or 2018?

[uls]

if gasoline gets heavily taxed the long-range electric scooters will become viable. they're out there just waiting to be imported from china

businessmen have already been importing electric scooters from China for years

the Phil. market still hasn't taken electric scooters seriously

they're still viewed more as toys than serious transportation

if you're so sure gas motorbike owners will switch to electric scooters pag nag take effect ang tax hike put your money where your mouth is

mag pustahan tayo

6 months after the tax hike on gasoline you show me market data that gas motorbike sales fell and electric scooter sales jumped

[dos2]

Puro sa mga 4 wheels lang nababasa ko.
Yung tax ba sa mga motorsiklo (Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Ducati, KTM, etc) eh magbabago?
Salamat

[uls]

i'm betting car owners who can no longer afford gas will buy motorbikes

dadami lalo ang motor sa kalye

as it na nga madami car owners bumili ng motor coz of the traffic

it's misconception na car OR motor ang mga tao

madami mga may car AND motor

[Egan101]

businessmen have already been importing electric scooters from China for years

the Phil. market still hasn't taken electric scooters seriously

they're still viewed more as toys than serious transportation

if you're so sure gas motorbike owners will switch to electric scooters pag nag take effect ang tax hike put your money where your mouth is

mag pustahan tayo

6 months after the tax hike on gasoline you show me market data that gas motorbike sales fell and electric scooter sales jumped

I don't mind if we see a surge in electric scooters or e-bikes on the roads but the use of such should be regulated by LTO. Most of these e-bike users may not even have valid drivers licenses and some don't even wear safety gear. Some don't even have the courtesy to switch on their lights at night. In such a case, they become additional unwanted hazards on the roads on top of street vendors, make shift trikes ("kuliglig"), and other things daily motorists have to watch out for.

[EQAddict]

Remember 30-40% of our taxes goes to waste/corruption. We need to feed the corrupt system.

This is all greed. They need the money to fund their infrastructure projects.....and guess who approves those projects? And guess whos relatives and friends will win those projects?

As a car freak though, if the luxury cars come down to more realistic pricing levels then i cant really complain as i will have something to look forward to.



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[ratboy]

diesel lang ba papatawan additional excise tax? kasi mga naka sedan eh puro gasoline variant ang dala..

[Wh1stl3r]

Remember 30-40% of our taxes goes to waste/corruption. We need to feed the corrupt system.

This is all greed. They need the money to fund their infrastructure projects.....and guess who approves those projects? And guess whos relatives and friends will win those projects?

As a car freak though, if the luxury cars come down to more realistic pricing levels then i cant really complain as i will have something to look forward to.



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Yep. This is also why many local politicians are lobbying for the shift to federalism. Aside from ensuring the survival of their dynasties, they want the lion's share of the pie.

[Vodka]

businessmen have already been importing electric scooters from China for years

the Phil. market still hasn't taken electric scooters seriously

they're still viewed more as toys than serious transportation

if you're so sure gas motorbike owners will switch to electric scooters pag nag take effect ang tax hike put your money where your mouth is

mag pustahan tayo

6 months after the tax hike on gasoline you show me market data that gas motorbike sales fell and electric scooter sales jumped

i said they'll become viable. i didn't say people will buy them in huge numbers here in PH (they're already doing that in china)

just like w/ electric cars the electric scooters/MC that use li-ion are still quite expensive so that'll limit adoption. but prices do keep going down AND if gasoline get taxed then these electrics will get even more attractive even from a purely economic standpoint the low-maintenance and instant torque are big pluses too

[uls]

I don't mind if we see a surge in electric scooters or e-bikes on the roads but the use of such should be regulated by LTO. Most of these e-bike users may not even have valid drivers licenses and some don't even wear safety gear. Some don't even have the courtesy to switch on their lights at night. In such a case, they become additional unwanted hazards on the roads on top of street vendors, make shift trikes ("kuliglig"), and other things daily motorists have to watch out for.

exactly why electric scooters here aren't registered

coz they're not viewed as seriously as gas motorbikes

they're viewed more like bicycles

something you can buy in a mall

sales receipt lang papeles pwede na gamitin agad

driver's license?

fuggedaboutit

[minicarph]

ang problema sa electric bike pag nagkarun ng yellow flood warning na ulan at nilusong nila sa baha yan, malamang makukuryente sila nyan

[Verbl Kint]

Any additional taxes on fuel or gasoline of any kind (LPG included) will mean an immediate inflation surge. Whatever tax cuts the lower income segment gets will be eaten up by this inflation.

The multinational corporations and conglomerates won't be affected at all since all the taxes will be passed on to the consumers anyway.

This is a bad implementation of pseudo-socialist taxation theory.

[B]The real problem is not in taxation but institutional corruption at the Department of Finance (i.e. Customs and BIR).

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[ratboy]

Any additional taxes on fuel or gasoline of any kind (LPG included) will mean an immediate inflation surge. Whatever tax cuts the lower income segment gets will be eaten up by this inflation.

The multinational corporations and conglomerates won't be affected at all since all the taxes will be passed on to the consumers anyway.

This is a bad implementation of pseudo-socialist taxation theory.

[B]The real problem is not in taxation but institutional corruption at the Department of Finance (i.e. Customs and BIR).

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agree. kaya ako advocate talaga ako ng economic freedom at supply side economics.. less tax and regulations = smaller government = less corruption..panatilihin pera sa kamay ng mga tao at hindi sa gobyerno..

yung deficit madali mababayaran kung malakas middle class ng bansa..then we can fund projects through PPP when big corporations have larger capital..

napagiwanan na tayo ng vietnam narealize na nila blueprint for development is economic freedom..eh ngayon grabe ang daming tax at regulation pero halos walang welfare puro kurakot lang talaga. nagiisang welfare conditional cash transfer wala na ngang kwenta ninanakaw pa.

[uls]

agree. kaya ako advocate talaga ako ng economic freedom at supply side economics.. less tax and regulations = smaller government = less corruption..panatilihin pera sa kamay ng mga tao at hindi sa gobyerno..

yung deficit madali mababayaran kung malakas middle class ng bansa..then we can fund projects through PPP when big corporations have larger capital..

napagiwanan na tayo ng vietnam narealize na nila blueprint for development is economic freedom..eh ngayon grabe ang daming tax at regulation pero halos walang welfare puro kurakot lang talaga. nagiisang welfare conditional cash transfer wala na ngang kwenta ninanakaw pa.

don't forget welfare for the rich in the form of protection from foreign competition

ginagamit ang property ng gobyerno pero privatized ang gains

pag may losses naman hingi ng bailout sa gobyerno

[kagalingan]

Buti ito hindi kinakargahan ng fuel...... mahirapan pa mabutasan...

[wd420]

Ayaw ng administration itaas presyo ng bigas tapos tataasan pa nila presyo ng gas. Kawawa mga farmer neto

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[minicarph]

ano kaya kung halimbawa pumakit ang ebikes sa motor tapos pinapag long drive ng isang small family tapos somewhere along the mountains nakasabat sila ng hunderstorm.

kung si optimus prime nga pinag tatransform nya autobots sa cars since yun tires eh insulator yun sa electro gun ng mga decepticons, pwede yun sa car kasi insulated naman yu. tao sa loob kasi cager, eh pag rider kahit me gulong yun sogurado tama ng kidlat sa ulo mo. eh yan pa naman kidlat parang physics, ang gusto tirahin yun negative terminal or vice versa, parang baterya, sigurado maging favorite nyan tamaan ang ebikes sa kalye sa future. kung antenna nga na walang kamuwang-muwang tinatamaan nya eh

[ice15]

I like the Senate's version...

How Will Car Prices Be Affected by the Newly Approved Senate Tax Bill? | Entrepreneur

Though the Senate version’s structure is simpler, which would theoretically boost efficiency of collection, this comes at the expense of equity. It effectively taxes low-end vehicles higher, while providing discounts for luxury cars,

[tr1ck5h07]

This senate version now makes me want to hold off buying a new vehicle if it will be cheaper next year. Hassle.


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[CVT]

Senate version,- they'll get the tax revenue from those people who can only afford the Vios segment of the car market, and below....

"What they're 'giving',- they're taking away...."

The sticking sore thumb in the Senate version is,- "only 20% tax above P1M"

[minicarph]

This senate version now makes me want to hold off buying a new vehicle if it will be cheaper next year. Hassle.


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dont trust that the car manufacturers will decrease their prices. ang gagawin pa nila eh i-pad ang manufacturing price.

that's what happened with the Korean cars, nun inapprove ang korean philippine tax agreement, lalo pa nagmahal mga hyundai and kia. remembered it's a deregulated pricing industry, wala naman price regulation ang cars katulad sa palengke.

at saka mali na yan data oh, montero GT sa 1.7M, eh 2M na nga eh GT