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    #221
    Pag nagkataon pala na senate version naapprove eh napamahal pa yung mga nagkumahog sa SUV ngayong last quarter of 2017 dahil sa "beat the excise tax" rush..lol

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    #222
    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Pag nagkataon pala na senate version naapprove eh napamahal pa yung mga nagkumahog sa SUV ngayong last quarter of 2017 dahil sa "beat the excise tax" rush..lol
    pano pong senate version? meaning possible pa po di matuloy yung excise tax increase/ Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Car prices here in the Philippines are like pamasahe, sa sobrang kakawelga ng mga pison at toda na yan, kahit half-full ang jeepney bawi pa din sa sobrang taas ng minimum fare

    Ganun din price ng cars, oligarchy. the objective is to price test as long as Pinoys acccept, Dati ang difference lang ng 4x2 vs 4x4 , nun early 2000 P50k, early 2010 P100k aba ngaun 300k na. nowadays. People seem to be proud that they bought 4x4 PPVs to the tune of 2.1M.

    Grabe ngaun ko lang nalaman coz it's my first time to own a PPV, these cars are overpriced! Hindi ok ang driving mechanics ng raised vehicles. It's like they're using cheap leveling / cornering suspension, with the Pickup I can accept its drivability coz it's leaf spring.

    sobrang chine-cherish ko pa ang old Ford Explorer and Pajero BK ko kaysa dito sa current crop of PPV. Yun ang mga totoong 4x4 pala talaga, comfort, better driving mechanics, and offroadabilty .
    up dito powerrrrrr

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    #224
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post

    Ganun din price ng cars, oligarchy. the objective is to price test as long as Pinoys acccept, Dati ang difference lang ng 4x2 vs 4x4 , nun early 2000 P50k, early 2010 P100k aba ngaun 300k na. nowadays. People seem to be proud that they bought 4x4 PPVs to the tune of 2.1M.
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    Capitalising on the bangya of the yongta noypi, di ba?

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    #225
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Capitalising on the bangya of the yongta noypi, di ba?
    haha tumbok mo bro[emoji122] [emoji106]

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    #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Bosdaks View Post
    pano pong senate version? meaning possible pa po di matuloy yung excise tax increase/ Thanks!
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    #227
    Wala. Magulo ang senate. Okay na sana yung sa HoR kaso nirevise pa nila para ang mga mayayaman ang magbenefit.

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    #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    Wala. Magulo ang senate. Okay na sana yung sa HoR kaso nirevise pa nila para ang mga mayayaman ang magbenefit.

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    HoR draft is not as friendly as the Senates draft.

    im glad theyre doing revisions...

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    #229
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Grabe ngaun ko lang nalaman coz it's my first time to own a PPV, these cars are overpriced! Hindi ok ang driving mechanics ng raised vehicles. It's like they're using cheap leveling / cornering suspension

    ... makes you wonder why people still have a difficult time choosing between a PPV and a Honda CR-V diesel ...

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    #230
    ^I agree...

    Mas simple yung Senate version...

    Masakit sa first time buyer yung Senate version.

    Pero better para sa atin lahat na di gumalaw or magmura mga 1-2M vehicles (Innova/Hi-Ace/Hi-Lux, soirry, puro Toyota naisip ko).

    They're used by small businesses. (I visited Thailand and pati street vendor na nagtitinda ng buko uses a recent model Toyota pick-up)

    small business - Innova
    My ex-colleague who decided to start a small eatery/carinderia - Hi-Lux/Adventure combo
    providing transport shuttle for call centre's - Urvan

    ^above are real people I actually know

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    #231
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    HoR draft is not as friendly as the Senates draft.

    im glad theyre doing revisions...

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    Enlighten me.

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    #232
    Let's just wait for the Congress and Senate to settle and publish the final revision in Dec 15 and effectively implemented by Jan 2018. Wala namang point magargue kung drafts palang yang mga yan.

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    #233
    If the bicam doesn't come out with the revised and agreed upon TRAIN version in 8 days then they would have to sacrifice some of their vacay time to close it.

    The bill needs to be submitted to the palace 48 hours before the president needs to sign it. And time is running out.

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    #234
    It looks like Malacañang is trying to prop up more support for the House version:

    Senate version of auto excise tax bill seen to hit car sales, manufacturing | Inquirer Business

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    #235
    Another touchy provision now is the proposed coal tax.

    1. The House believes imposing a higher coal tax will adversely increase electricity cost (most powerplants are coal-fired) and even hurt our manufacturing sector in the long run.

    2. The Senate believes it's about time to change how we tax coal as it has been the same for decades now and other fossil fuels have already been taxed higher. This has resulted in coal being a lot cheaper than renewable energy in the Philippines.

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    #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    It looks like Malacañang is trying to prop up more support for the House version:

    Senate version of auto excise tax bill seen to hit car sales, manufacturing | Inquirer Business

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    malacanyang wants more money for their build-build-build infra projects. i think itill be outside metro manila though🤔

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    #237
    Lawmakers move closer to finalizing TRAIN bill | BusinessMirror

    Apparently, the implementation of the TRAIN bill will be actualized by January next year.
    Reading the article above, there was no mention on what was the final excise tax rate increase for vehicles. Anybody here who have access in the bicameral discussion or have read it somewhere?

    "Over the weekend, Sen. Juan Edgardo M. Angara, chairman of the Senate Committee on Ways and Means, said members of the bicameral committee have already agreed on 75 key provisions, or 90 percent, of the tax-reform bill.

    However, still pending before the bicameral committee are “contentious” provisions which include excise taxes on coal, minerals and cosmetic procedures, which were inserted by the Senate.
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    #238
    If they don't get it signed by Duterte by Friday then it won't be implemented on Jan. 1.

    If the bicam discussions do not reach a conclusion by Thursday, then it will probably won't happen in January at all.

    If it won't happen in January, then they will likely aim for an implementation date at the beginning of April or perhaps July.


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    #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    If they don't get it signed by Duterte by Friday then it won't be implemented on Jan. 1.

    If the bicam discussions do not reach a conclusion by Thursday, then it will probably won't happen in January at all.

    If it won't happen in January, then they will likely aim for an implementation date at the beginning of April or perhaps July.


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    Anung version kaya ng vehicle excise tax ang napag-agreehan ng bicam?

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    #240
    Sayang lang Time mag analyze or hulaan kung ano approved nila. Either way people will still buy vehicles kahit ano pa mapproved nila


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