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    #301
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberRider View Post
    Non-progressive na naka twin nozzle po yung saken. I wanted to purchase sana yung devilsown progressive controller pero since inconsistent na yung naging presyohan eh nag ayaw na ako. Saan po dito sa picture yung hobbs switch? Nasa left sa ilalim ng apat na terminal ng wire. http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?im...vilsownjl6.jpg

    By the way, don't they have a warranty for the kit??? Or the install???
    Magkano po bili niyo diyan sa pressure switch?

    Ferman and Bok are good friends of mine. The system is pretty simple if it worked before malamang loose connection, fuse or switch lang ang problema.
    Hobbs ang suspicion ko.

    Hassle kasi para saken eh when I claimed the vehicle di man lang tumagal ng half a month namatay agad yung pump. I also have a switch to turn on/off the pump inside the sorento. That's when I noticed na dead siya kasi pag naka on, on rin yung red light indicator sa tip ng switch.
    Balitaan mo kami bro.

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    #302
    Butch,

    Nasa loob ng engine bay near the pump. Gusto ko lipat sa loob iniisip ko pa kung saan maganda. Salamat ulit.

    Mon

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    #303
    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Butch,

    Nasa loob ng engine bay near the pump. Gusto ko lipat sa loob iniisip ko pa kung saan maganda. Salamat ulit.

    Mon
    Mon,

    You're most welcome. Try mo ilipat sa loob baka hindi siya tumagal. Anyways mura lang yan BTW nakakuha ka na ba ng pang spare?

    Butch

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    #304
    Quote Originally Posted by rmpmla View Post
    Mon,

    You're most welcome. Try mo ilipat sa loob baka hindi siya tumagal. Anyways mura lang yan BTW nakakuha ka na ba ng pang spare?

    Butch
    Hindi pa ako nakakadaan, pero pupuntahan ko para may spare ako

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    #305
    Yup, mine is the NASON brand. I'll try to go to Speedlab next week.

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    #306
    Were still doing a routine check-up on our driver. Mahirap nang magka gangrene.

    I'm really disappointed at how Speedlab conducts their business. And dami naging hassles nung kinabit yung devilsown kit ko na yan:

    1)it was delayed
    2)may mga butas na di ko alam binutasan nila
    3)iba iba yung presyo. I just informed them na I was just willing to shell out P20k for the kit and Sid knows that. Nagulat nalang ako when it was time to claim my vehicle eh P25k na pala yung pinapabayad? I infromed them na kung may dagdag gastos to please inform me beforehand. Ang reasoning ni Sid is that they can't make any estimates kasi magiging depende sa hirap ng trabaho at parts. C'mon, locally lang nila ginagawa yan at sa shop pa nila. Now, if that were imported syempre maniniwala ako. Banawe outlets could give me an estimate on works like that but not Speedlab? He even said na "di ito kagaya ng gawang Banawe" pero look at my vehicle now.... devilsown not working, overbudget, butas-butas pa yung auto ko and now yung nangyari pa sa driver ko. If he should diss the works of Banawe he'd better back it up. Even my friends who accompanied me before, they offered me their feedback about Speedlab, Sid reacted and said "why are you listening to them? and he said "stupid!" I didn't know if he was trying to say/mean that the comments of my friends were stupid OR my friends ARE stupid?! Well, which other way he may say it that's highly uncalled for and unprofessional.

    But I still have to go back kasi responsibilidad nila yung kit. I recall that there was a free dyno if you purchase the devilsown. When I had that installed their dyno machine was broken so I didn't get my free dyno run. Sid just said that if it's fixed we will proceed with the dyno run. I didn't pay P25k for a kit that broke down, no dyno run, a punctured vehicle and an injured driver.:nono: Well, so much for "ownership". The guy couldn't even update his clients. I mean how much is a local phone call? FREE!!!

    Oh, i just went to Banawe a few hrs ago. May estimate agad sila on the "parts" na di nakayanan i estimate ng Speed. I know by law that you are required to give an estimate or at least update your client on what could be the cost before you proceed with the work. I mean, they couldn't estimate kung magkano kung iapapa steel ko yung pipe from air filter going to turbo pati yung pipe sa nozzle ng devilsown? Well, I guess it boils down to how well you can conduct business with your clients.
    Visited speedlab a few weeks back, bought a replacement pressure switch for P1,800.00, this part of the kit is heat sensitive. I will be relocating it away from the exhaust manifold.

    Apparently, speedlab never heard of the aphorism that says "he who is the cause of the cause, is the cause of evil caused" anak naman ng... thats a big no no in doing business. In every business, there are only two rules to adhere to, that is: rule no. 1, the customer is always right; rule no.2 if the customer is wrong refer to rule no. 1!

    And to bill you 25k for the install and lousy service? Sorry to say this, but thats double whammy sir

    I also have one installed in my carens, the kit works as advertised, I ordered it online and installed it myself. Relatively easy naman, does not require that much technical know how. Inabot lang nang 12k plus lahat plus surplus reservoir Thats a lot of savings minus the bad service.
    BTW, u can install the pump with cable tie.
    Last edited by LadyRider; February 22nd, 2009 at 01:37 AM.

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    #307
    Quote Originally Posted by LadyRider View Post
    Sir am sorry to hear about your driver! How is he now? Hope he's getting better. Diabetic pa naman sya.

    It's sad because its like the people who installed the kit in your car took things for granted. As I was looking at the screws, this is too dangerous! They should have cut the pointed end of the screw or at least placed a nut in the end!

    You will be lucky enough if you find a shop that will admit their mistakes and will do everything just to keep their customers from coming back.

    Unfortunately, with your experience, I just don't know if you will trust your car with them again?
    OT lang. Hi Lady Rider, nice place you have there in Laguna. We went yesterday. Ramon

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    #308
    I'm thinking of purchasing one from speedlab as I'm not good in DIY, but after hearing this sad experience from you people, I'l just stay stock at least I won't suffer the bad experience and the heart attack..

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    #309
    ako din sana e. Next month sched ko pakabit WA injection. Kaya lang Speedlab lang yata authorized dealer dito.

    Sir Wayward baka pwede sa iyo na lang kami magpakabit hehehehe

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    #310
    after reading SaberRider's experience with Speedlab, Im definitely not doing this upgrade anymore.

    Hope everything will turn out fine SaberRider.

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    #311
    Quote Originally Posted by rst619 View Post
    ako din sana e. Next month sched ko pakabit WA injection. Kaya lang Speedlab lang yata authorized dealer dito.

    Sir Wayward baka pwede sa iyo na lang kami magpakabit hehehehe
    But of course sir, dalhin nyo lng dito sa iloilo

    Pag sa speedlab kasi too prohibitive ung price plus the installation fee. Thats almost double the price if you order online And you pay premium on the "customer value service" hehe. Any weekend tinkerer can do the installation, spent d whole day installing the kit. Medyo natagalan lang sa wiring. IMO you dont need the free dyno test naman, you feel the extra ooomph of the added torque.

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    #312
    The kit is worth it. The "service" isn't.

    Pwede nyo naman po siguro pakiusapan ang isa sa mga tsikot members to just purchase the kit for you or you can purchase it yourself then have it installed by someone else. It's advertised in websites like sulit.com.ph. Just type "devilsown" at may lalabas. Just purchase another or a spare heat switch.

    I'll be very pissed off if I will find out that I'll have to pay for a replacement heat switch kasi sabi nyo nga may 1 year warranty and also they were the ones who placed the heat switch sa hood ng auto ko. Alam naman siguro nila na heat sensitive yung gadget na yun. Baka to drum up business and demand? Di ko tuloy alam kung deliberate ang paglalagay nila doon sa mga maiinit na areas ng auto yung heat switch?

    I recall I asked them for an estimate kung magkano magpagawa ng reservior para malaki ang tangke ko mga 20Liters. Gulat ako, P10k daw according to Sid kaya siyempre hanap ako sa iba. I was lucky and found a place just around 6km from one of my places in Commonwealth Ave. P3.5k for everything including labor, parts, build. Ayun, may daily updates at maganda ang gawa. Same materials, same way of building, iba lang ang presyo and professional attitude Unfortunately, the kit broke down even before we were gonna attach the reservior. Kayang-kaya 40Liters kaso sabi ko overkill yun at baka di balanced yung suv so I just made it around 30Liters.

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    #313
    I'm sad bumigay na ang pump ng WAJ ko with less than a year of use. I thought gumagama pa siya since ang controller still working normally indicating the "START" and "FULL" status lights but ng disconnect ko discharge hose ng pump, di na siya nag pu pump. Akala ko heavy duty siya sabi pa sa website nila " the pump will outlast your car" Kaya advise ko sa mga nagpa install, disconnect nyo discharge hoses sa pump to confirm na your WA injection pump is still working. I don't know if I can still avail of the 1 year waranty considering some not so good comments that is posted here regarding Speedlab customer service.

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    #314
    Quote Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
    I'm sad bumigay na ang pump ng WAJ ko with less than a year of use. I thought gumagama pa siya since ang controller still working normally indicating the "START" and "FULL" status lights but ng disconnect ko discharge hose ng pump, di na siya nag pu pump. Akala ko heavy duty siya sabi pa sa website nila " the pump will outlast your car" Kaya advise ko sa mga nagpa install, disconnect nyo discharge hoses sa pump to confirm na your WA injection pump is still working. I don't know if I can still avail of the 1 year waranty considering some not so good comments that is posted here regarding Speedlab customer service.
    baka sir yung controller lang ang defective. pwede mo try na i-connect directly to the the battery yung pump just to check kung talagang defective.. hugutin mo lang yung dalawang red wire dun sa connector at supply mo from the battery. for safety pwede ka mag-series ng fuse.

    Had a similar experience a few days ago. nag indicate naman ON yung system pero di gumana pump.nag PM ako kay dvldoc at suggest nya na try ko i-connect direct to battery para ma-confirm. Otherwise, free replacement naman daw since it is covered by one year warranty.

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    #315
    Quote Originally Posted by rmpmla View Post
    baka sir yung controller lang ang defective. pwede mo try na i-connect directly to the the battery yung pump just to check kung talagang defective.. hugutin mo lang yung dalawang red wire dun sa connector at supply mo from the battery. for safety pwede ka mag-series ng fuse.

    Had a similar experience a few days ago. nag indicate naman ON yung system pero di gumana pump.nag PM ako kay dvldoc at suggest nya na try ko i-connect direct to battery para ma-confirm. Otherwise, free replacement naman daw since it is covered by one year warranty.
    Gumagana ang controller eh pag nag rev ako, "PUMP" LED will lit first and the "FULL" LED will start to blink. Pag continue ko mag rev up, both the "PUMP" and the "FULL" LEDs will be on brightly. Tapos you can feel the pump kicking in but no discharge nga lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
    Gumagana ang controller eh pag nag rev ako, "PUMP" LED will lit first and the "FULL" LED will start to blink. Pag continue ko mag rev up, both the "PUMP" and the "FULL" LEDs will be on brightly. Tapos you can feel the pump kicking in but no discharge nga lang.
    One thing is everything is a warranty item. free replacement if within one year. Sounds like you sucked some air in your system, If you have air in the lines like from letting the tank run dry the air cannot clear the check valve on the nozzle assembly, You will have to disconnect the hose from the nozzle. It's best to disconnect the blue wire from the pump and just put voltage strait to the pumps red wire. You can have the hose just sit in a water bottle. Once you clear the air you should be fine, This will also tell you if there is any physical problem with the pump, we almost never have to replace pumps it's vary rare.

    There are two sides to every story, I'm sure there are people that curse our name, but hey that's business. I can assure your warranty items are honored.

    I will actually finally be out of Iraq and back around 6 June till 20 Jun and will be doing a demo of some of our new items. We have a new controller coming out next month, with a internal map sensor so it will work on anything, Also a light for the liquid level switch on the controller as well as switching the pulse width modulation from pulsing the power wire to the ground which will severely decrease the work load on the controller. We also offer the heavy duty unit which speedlab actually has now it has no lights or fancy things but it's a basic controller that gets the job done.

    Look forward to doing a demo again and do some giveaway. Hopefully speedlab work everything out with any customer issue they might have had.

    At the end of the day when it comes to the product your dealing with us and most likely me directly. Who else gives customer support from a war zone. People that needed a replacement controllers your units are already on the way. We make time to take care of our customers product wise all over the word and internet access for me is sometime impossible but I do what I can.

    Not bad for having military as a day job.
    Last edited by dvldoc; March 4th, 2009 at 02:49 AM.

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    #317
    Mga ilang gains kaya nito
    if i install it in my turbo civic fd 1.8

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    #318
    Quote Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
    Gumagana ang controller eh pag nag rev ako, "PUMP" LED will lit first and the "FULL" LED will start to blink. Pag continue ko mag rev up, both the "PUMP" and the "FULL" LEDs will be on brightly. Tapos you can feel the pump kicking in but no discharge nga lang.
    One time that happened to me, what i did is open it cleaned water passages at binatukan ko yung motor ayon naging masunurin na bata.
    Ganyan din ginagawa ko sa auxiliary fan.

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    #319
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    One thing is everything is a warranty item. free replacement if within one year. Sounds like you sucked some air in your system, If you have air in the lines like from letting the tank run dry the air cannot clear the check valve on the nozzle assembly, You will have to disconnect the hose from the nozzle. It's best to disconnect the blue wire from the pump and just put voltage strait to the pumps red wire. You can have the hose just sit in a water bottle. Once you clear the air you should be fine, This will also tell you if there is any physical problem with the pump, we almost never have to replace pumps it's vary rare
    dvldoc, I have already tried doing what you've suggested before posting but to no avail. Before, disconnecting the pump discharge to bleed off air from the system everytime the tank runs empty worked for the system. but it did not work this time. I think the pump won't last long if it's always exposed to heat considering sorento's engine compartment is compact.
    Last edited by jeanpierre; March 5th, 2009 at 10:51 PM.

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    #320
    You might want to get a small heat shield if it's close to the turbo or exhaust mainfold. The pump motor is essentially the same as your starter motor, the fluid in the head keeps those components cool. But if you do have a failed unit and it has been less than a year. then the replacement if free, you do have to pay the shipping charges to send the old unit back.

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