Toyota Innova 2.8 E M/T or Toyota Innova 2.8 G M/T Diesel?

**Vodka** · August 24th, 2017 06:26 PM

why is innova still using ladder frame? it's not a truck nor an off-roader

**uls** · August 24th, 2017 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

why is innova still using ladder frame? it's not a truck nor an off-roader

innova, hilux, fortuner all share the same platform diba?

tawag ng Toyota "IMV project"

to make vehicles for markets outside Japan like ASEAN region

**Vodka** · August 24th, 2017 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by uls

innova, hilux, fortuner all share the same platform diba?

tawag ng Toyota "IMV project"

to make vehicles for markets outside Japan like ASEAN region

i know but why? LOL

i mean it's an MPV. does it really have to be a ladder frame? pwede naman monocoque yan...

isn't it a disadvantage that innova is a body-on-frame?

**uls** · August 24th, 2017 07:20 PM

i know but why? LOL

i mean it's an MPV. does it really have to be a ladder frame? pwede naman monocoque yan...

isn't it a disadvantage that innova is a body-on-frame?

i think toyota ain't gonna make a specific platform just for the innova

if people want a toyota mpv na monocoque they can buy a toyota K platform car

**GTi** · August 24th, 2017 07:29 PM

^It wouldn't be financially wise for Toyota to develop a separate unibody platform just for the Innova, when it could just base it on the same basic platform as the Hilux and Fortuner. Though Toyota does have a unibody MPV called the Wish which is very popular in Taiwan, but only comes with a gas engine.

IMHO using a ladder frame for the Innova does have its benefits. The Innova is still a utility vehicle. The tough underpinnings mean longer lasting suspension components especially under heavy duty use, which Metro Manila traffic basically always is. Tackling poorly made or unpaved provincial roads with it also gives more peace of mind as compared to, say, our LWB Carnival.

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**Wh1stl3r** · August 24th, 2017 07:32 PM

From what I've read re: platforms, mahal sya gawin, that's why car companies will use the same platform for as many vehicles as they can if they think they will sell.

In the US, Toyota has a 7 seater minivan monocoque, the Sienna. It's based on the same platform as the Camry. It's much larger, and owing to the dismal fuel economy from its gasoline V6, it won't sell much here. Although I heard it now comes with a 4 banger.

The IMV platform is more profitable for Toyota because of the Innova. Other car companies with PPV platforms only came up with a pick-up and an SUV.

**dr. d** · August 24th, 2017 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by afbramos

Couldn't agree more sir. It's just externals na lng. 2.8J Engine is the same beast for its class and price specially on power mode. Lakas ng hatak.

Ang napansin ko lng sir nung nag-test drive ako ng manual - parang mabigat clutch and biglaan ang acceleration? Short din gearing.Parang masbagay makina dun sa automatic transmission. But it could be just me. Anyone have similar observations? .

well, i find the MT / clutch of the older innova diesel, to be such a pleasure to use, that i don't mind too much that i have to drive the MT and not the AT.

**Vodka** · August 24th, 2017 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

^It wouldn't be financially wise for Toyota to develop a separate unibody platform just for the Innova, when it could just base it on the same basic platform as the Hilux and Fortuner. Though Toyota does have a unibody MPV called the Wish which is very popular in Taiwan, but only comes with a gas engine.

IMHO using a ladder frame for the Innova does have its benefits. The Innova is still a utility vehicle. The tough underpinnings mean longer lasting suspension components especially under heavy duty use, which Metro Manila traffic basically always is. Tackling poorly made or unpaved provincial roads with it also gives more peace of mind as compared to, say, our LWB Carnival.

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well you can have tough suspension on a monocoque also. it's all about how tough you build the suspension bits for a monocoque vehicle

so it makes me wonder if innova would theoretically be better off as a monocoque. coz it's just being used as a family vehicle. nothing demanding at all that would require a ladder frame. it would make the innova lighter so have better fuel economy, better performance etc. and easier for the grandparents to get in/out of

but of course i understand the economics of shared platforms. but as a consumer i don't really care what makes good business sense for toyota LOL i mean they're already the #1 car maker. i just want a car that's optimized for the job that it's going to do i.e. not be overbuilt, or have a ladder frame that it may or may not need

just thinking out lout

**uls** · August 25th, 2017 12:14 PM

if a Toyota customer has high standard

he can ignore IMV platform cars and go for MC platform or K platform cars

no gun to the head naman

just thinking out loud

**Altairian** · September 6th, 2017 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by mokong22

I have a g variant para sakin its worth yung added features ng g. para ka narin naka suv sa mga added featured nya. Mas practical lang talaga yung e kung ano lang kelangan yun na yung nasa e variant. Correction walang immobilizer yung g keyless entry lang. Ang ayaw ko sa g yung auto climate control. Kelangan mo adjust fan speed everytime you turn on. Mas madali gamitin yung manual ng aircon sa e.

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Sir is it true that the G variant has the keyless entrt feature?i thought its only on the V.