SUV real world dyno outputs

**niky** · March 18th, 2014 10:49 PM

Peak hp, peak torque... meaningless without a curve. Have a curve? Meaningless without the gearing. The gearing and power curve? Meaningless without considering the weight and aerodynamics of the car.

Actual 0-100 km/h times? They'll tell you all you need to know.

**SiRbossR** · March 18th, 2014 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Peak hp, peak torque... meaningless without a curve. Have a curve? Meaningless without the gearing. The gearing and power curve? Meaningless without considering the weight and aerodynamics of the car.

Actual 0-100 km/h times? They'll tell you all you need to know.

Bless us with your infos, Niky

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**yebo** · March 18th, 2014 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Irrespective of the drivers age, mabilis na ang 170 kph. Especially that the speed limit is at 100 kph. They are SUVs not Formula 1 car, they use public roads not race track. The time difference between a TCI SUV (MS, Eve, Alt, Fort etc) and a VGT/VNT/V** SUV reaching 170 kph is not that significant, they will still see each other at the toll gate, in the next traffic jam, in the next stop light or in the next speeding check point. If anything bad happened at 170 kph, they may again see each other at the same hospital and share the same emergency ward.

We are not talking about public roads or speed limits. Read the title of the thread again, it is asking about SUVs. Wala naman tayo sa goon squad eh so what is your point? You are preaching in the wrong forum. Pinaguusapan what qualifies as an SUV and what is not.

Time difference daw is not significant hahaha! You don't know the difference because you don't know.

**GTi** · March 18th, 2014 11:58 PM

To get back to the topic, I do wonder. After looking at various Speedlab dyno sheets, I find that the Fortuner/Hilux 3.0 and the Montero/Strada 3.2 give only around 120whp. And then I see that the non VGT 2.5 Strada/Montero's also hit 120whp and a Strada GLS Sport V hit 170whp. I've driven the VGT Strada, and I know for a fact that it has difficulty going past 185km/h. What gives?

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**leodawesome** · March 19th, 2014 12:13 AM

^ Maybe the gearing comes into play.

OT: I only need 2 things from an SUV:

1. Head snapping torque.
2. Space

Anything else would be a plus in an SUV (comfort, handling, etc). But that's just me.

**glenn_duke** · March 19th, 2014 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by yebo

Pinaguusapan what qualifies as an SUV and what is not..

Topic:

"SUV real world dyno outputs " <> "Pinaguusapan what qualifies as an SUV and what is not"

Are they the same?? So who went out of topic first?

**yebo** · March 19th, 2014 12:21 AM

Basahin mo from page 1 para malaman mo bakit napunta sa time from 0-100 kph to peak hp and torque and gearing, etc etc. All those are related to what the ts asked. Hirap kasi bigla na lang magpopost di naman nagbasa.

**yebo** · March 19th, 2014 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

To get back to the topic, I do wonder. After looking at various Speedlab dyno sheets, I find that the Fortuner/Hilux 3.0 and the Montero/Strada 3.2 give only around 120whp. And then I see that the non VGT 2.5 Strada/Montero's also hit 120whp and a Strada GLS Sport V hit 170whp. I've driven the VGT Strada, and I know for a fact that it has difficulty going past 185km/h. What gives?

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Pick up kasi. Same as with my bt50, 200 hp and 470N-m torque pero i doubt if it will go past 185kph (speedometer is only up to 200 kph). It is designed to carry loads and pull trailers, not for top speed. Kaya yung upcoming 2014/2015 ford everest if it has the same gear box as the ranger/bt50 e it will not be worth it, especially if it also has the same quirks (wide turning radius, hard steering).

**jut703** · March 19th, 2014 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by yebo

Pick up kasi. Same as with my bt50, 200 hp and 470N-m torque pero i doubt if it will go past 185kph (speedometer is only up to 200 kph). It is designed to carry loads and pull trailers, not for top speed. Kaya yung upcoming 2014/2015 ford everest if it has the same gear box as the ranger/bt50 e it will not be worth it, especially if it also has the same quirks (wide turning radius, hard steering).

Not really the gearing - whether I use 4th, 5th, or 6th gear, my Ranger has difficulty past 170 kph. 175 kph was my highest on a straight road. 180 with a slight incline. I doubt that after chipping it, I'll exceed 180.

It's more of the aerodynamics - the Ranger has a drag coefficient of 0.40. The BT-50 shouldn't be far off. That's pretty low for a pick-up but still much higher than a car or even a CUV.

More important than top speed though for me is responsiveness and acceleration from 60-120 because that's the average speed on our Nat'l Highways. Sa SLEX/NLEX/SCTEX lang ako nakakabyahe ng lagpas 140 kph effortlessly.

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**jut703** · March 19th, 2014 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

To get back to the topic, I do wonder. After looking at various Speedlab dyno sheets, I find that the Fortuner/Hilux 3.0 and the Montero/Strada 3.2 give only around 120whp. And then I see that the non VGT 2.5 Strada/Montero's also hit 120whp and a Strada GLS Sport V hit 170whp. I've driven the VGT Strada, and I know for a fact that it has difficulty going past 185km/h. What gives?

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WHP is peak power - still doesn't translate to how well the power is delivered. End result that you're looking for is still acceleration and sometimes, top speed.

From experience though, I had a stoplight duel (that lasted 60 km) with a Strada GLX-V - it should smoke my Ranger 2.2 on the straights but it was dead even, whether it was from 0-160 or upon coming out of a corner or an overtake (approx 60-140).

I used to feel bad about having "only" 148 hp but that 30 hp gap with the VGT Strada wasn't noticeable at all in real-world conditions.

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