strada AT or ranger AT?

[yebo]

15 months old already and NO major/minor problem sa engine. my fuel consumption is between 9km/l to 12.5km/liter, more than 10k kms na itinakbo nya.

Wow, 10,000 km in 15 months? short trips lang ba lagi? I got a 3.5 months old bt50 3.2 and 4200+ kms na tinakbo ko. And take note i was out of the country 6 weeks out of that 3.5 months, so bale 4200 kms in 2 months lang. Dami na din gasgas 3 months old pa lang. Sinaksak ko sa kawayanan at talahib gasgas ang bumper. I really need to get a bull bar, kaya lang masikip na siya sa garahe pag may bull bar.

bt50 and ranger may issue ang transmission, both the manual and a/t and both 2.2 and 3.2 and 4x2 and 4x4 models. Nagli-limp mode siya and nagkakaron ng shift shock for no reason at all. Happened to mine on the 3500km mark, nawala naman ng kusa after turning the engine off for a while. Read mo yung 2012 ranger thread, meron din dun labas-pasok na ranger sa casa due to this limp mode problem. Supposedly it is the programming of the ecu and tcm. Unfortunately nung in-upgrade nila yung software nung ranger e ganun pa din. Fortunately for me mas affected ang ranger kesa ang bt50.

[GTi]

Our Strada, bought in April 2013 has already clocked 15tkms. Casa maintenance definitely ain't cheap. I forgot the exact figures and am rarely the one to bring it in for maintenance, but I'm quite positive it definitely doesn't cost half of the Ranger's 10tkms interval PMS cost.

One thing good about getting the Strada is that pretty much all of the kinks are already ironed out, being already near the end of it's model cycle. There have been no engine and transmission problems so far.

I can't compare it with the Ranger since I've never ridden one. But as compared to the other utility vehicle in the family, the Revo, it actually has the more spacious backseat with more abundant legroom and is less jumpy on uneven roads and humps (both having leaf sprung rears) even with an unladen bed.

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[jut703]

Malayo legroom ng Ranger and Strada. Aside from having more space in the back, advantage of the Ranger is the lower floor.

Sa Strada, ang taas ng floor so nakabend tuhod mo, parang nakaupo sa stool.

A lot of my officemates got Stradas, just because they're cheaper. Wala silang paki sa kotse, all they need is a point A to point B truck.

Those who cared a bit more about the car they drive all bought Rangers kahit mas mahal. Worth it naman kasi.


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[RF02]

Kumusta naman sasakyan mo bro? How's the gas mileage and your daily route? Nabibigatan ka ba sa steering? Mausok ba?



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okey naman sir, puro modz hehe

9-11 km/L ang nakukuha ko city driving depende nalang sa driving style ko.. madalas kasi akong humaharoroot bagong kabit palang kasi yun throttle controller ko kaya ineenjoy ko :D

kahit naka 17" 265 70 17 akong tires/mags hindi naman ako ganun nabigatan dahil 35psi yun hangin

walang usok sinunod ko lang mga tips na sinabi ni master zix :D


* TS
sir dun ka sa hindi ka bibigyan ng sakit ng ulo at kunsomisyon lalo na kung busy person po kayo...

[Leo_Arz]

Para sa akin, ford ranger 3.2 wildtrack andun na lahat pero depende rin Kung anu purpose mo sa truck.
Dmax - heavy duty
Navara - workhorse
Strada - light duty
Ranger - recreational



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[iceblue]

Pano naging underpowered ang 2.2? Magkaiba ang underpowered sa turbo lag. The Ranger has more than enough power as long as it's in the rev range. Same din naman with the Strada may turbo lag din though probably not as bad as the Ranger.

Also, curious about the PMS of the Strada. Ranger's PMS is about 7k every 10,000 km. Strada is every 5,000. Unless the Strada's PMS is less than 3.5k, edi lamang pa Ranger.


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Meron ba akong sinabi pareho ang underpowered at turbo lag? Underpowered is underpowered. Either you agree with me or disagree basta wag ka lang magdagdag na sinabi ko. Wala ako sinabi tungkol sa turbo lag.

[iceblue]

Malayo legroom ng Ranger and Strada. Aside from having more space in the back, advantage of the Ranger is the lower floor.

Sa Strada, ang taas ng floor so nakabend tuhod mo, parang nakaupo sa stool.

A lot of my officemates got Stradas, just because they're cheaper. Wala silang paki sa kotse, all they need is a point A to point B truck.

Those who cared a bit more about the car they drive all bought Rangers kahit mas mahal. Worth it naman kasi.


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Not surprised you made that comment.

[glenn manikis]

He.he.. Nung ginamit ko strada... Parang ganun din... Parang May turbo lag... Fr. Start to finish... Kung compare mo sa ranger.. Dapat kasi ma test drive nila before commenting...

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[viper888]

All turbo diesels have turbo lag, even a BMW 320d has turbo lag. Getting an automatic, which you will, makes the lag less noticeable. Also the Ranger's extra gears will reduce the feeling of the lag.

Ever considered the Hilux? It less powerful than both rivals but it comes with a sterling reputation for reliability.

TS, what are your uses? Actual work truck or lifestyle pickup?

[soyti75]

Wow, 10,000 km in 15 months? short trips lang ba lagi? I got a 3.5 months old bt50 3.2 and 4200+ kms na tinakbo ko. And take note i was out of the country 6 weeks out of that 3.5 months, so bale 4200 kms in 2 months lang. Dami na din gasgas 3 months old pa lang. Sinaksak ko sa kawayanan at talahib gasgas ang bumper. I really need to get a bull bar, kaya lang masikip na siya sa garahe pag may bull bar.

bt50 and ranger may issue ang transmission, both the manual and a/t and both 2.2 and 3.2 and 4x2 and 4x4 models. Nagli-limp mode siya and nagkakaron ng shift shock for no reason at all. Happened to mine on the 3500km mark, nawala naman ng kusa after turning the engine off for a while. Read mo yung 2012 ranger thread, meron din dun labas-pasok na ranger sa casa due to this limp mode problem. Supposedly it is the programming of the ecu and tcm. Unfortunately nung in-upgrade nila yung software nung ranger e ganun pa din. Fortunately for me mas affected ang ranger kesa ang bt50.

Yes, karamihan ay short trips. Madalas pa Baguio ako, lapit lang me dun eh . SO tested ko na sya sa mga inclines and curves, stable sya, yun nga lang, mas malakas sa fuel pag paakyat, pero pag pababa eh needless to say ay parang di na kumakain ng gas.

I do not know about the back seats ng ibang pick up, pero strada can provide ample space and comfort para sa 3 tao. they normally sleep pa nga pag may road trip kami eh, never heard them complain na matagtag o nakakahilo. even my mother who hated riding cars dahil sa nahihilo daw sya, but now she loves riding in front seat of the strada this time around. nasubukan ko na rin sya sa light off roading sa pangasinan, where 8 people ay nakasakay sa cargo bed and there was this steep incline na akala ko di kakayanin at babaligtad ang strada but it did very well. yun nga lang, nagkaroon ng mga "dimples" o malilit na yupi ang tailgate, hayun, nagastusan ako sa QC para sa tinatawag na dent removal. lesson learned, so dapat ibaba muna ang tailgate bago sakyan ng mga tropa.

[leodawesome]

Nasan na yun TS? Di naman nagbigay ng specifics. Pinaghead on lang strada and ranger AT.

Personally, for me kahit parehong pickup yung dalawa, the ranger is on another level. Parang ponkan-to-sunkist comparison.

[jut703]

Not surprised you made that comment.

Pwede mo rin silang tanungin, gusto mo bigay ko pa number nila sayo.

Just saying the truth. Last year, 8 of us bought pickups. 3 got Rangers, 4 got Stradas, 1 got a used Ranger (old model). I tried to convince those who got Stradas to get Rangers instead, but they said that even if they think the Ranger is better, they won't spend for it because they just need a workhorse.


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[12vdc]

Para sa akin, ford ranger 3.2 wildtrack andun na lahat pero depende rin Kung anu purpose mo sa truck.
Dmax - heavy duty
Navara - workhorse
Strada - light duty
Ranger - recreational



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*Leo, may prob daw ang tranny ng Ranger WT kahit MT, baka matulad sayo..

Personally, I'd stay away first from those brands with known major issues.

I'm eyeing also for 3.2WT pero wait and see narin muna kung may long term solution na ang issues.

[jut703]

Meron ba akong sinabi pareho ang underpowered at turbo lag? Underpowered is underpowered. Either you agree with me or disagree basta wag ka lang magdagdag na sinabi ko. Wala ako sinabi tungkol sa turbo lag.

You said that people in the Ranger thread commented na underpowered ang Ranger. I've been following that thread from page 1 til now and hindi lack of power ang complaint kundi yung kulang sa hatak pag mababang revs - which is exactly what turbo lag is.

I never said that you mentioned turbo lag. Perhaps it would be prudent of you to read the comment again. 😏


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[12vdc]

To TS

Re efficiency and maintenance

Utility-wise, the Ranga will be efficient since it got larger bed. On fuel, that depends on your load. Unladed and normal driving the 2.2 will be efficient. Give them something to haul then 2.2 will be more stressed while the 3.2 will struggle less.

Maintenance wise, Strada since its almost a century-old vehicle all kinks have now remedies and aftermarket parts are abundant.

Truth is, they all have turboe lag..be it the 3.2 4M40 or 3.2 Puma. Going with sprint booster could help, but still its like fooling the the potentiometer to respond earlier.. Attached is the detailed explanation for sprint booster and similar products.
Sprint Booster ? Is It Worth It? | outbackjoe

[viper888]

Pwede mo rin silang tanungin, gusto mo bigay ko pa number nila sayo.

Just saying the truth. Last year, 8 of us bought pickups. 3 got Rangers, 4 got Stradas, 1 got a used Ranger (old model). I tried to convince those who got Stradas to get Rangers instead, but they said that even if they think the Ranger is better, they won't spend for it because they just need a workhorse.


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This is quite understandable
If we were buying phones, an iphone is superior to most samsungs. An iphone also costs more than a Samsung
But because many of us just need a phone for basic uses.... We tend to get the more inexpensive Strada, I mean Samsung
As they say "kanya kanyang hilig"

But seeing the small price difference of the strada...... Get the Ranger

[Challenger75]

To TS

Re efficiency and maintenance

Utility-wise, the Ranga will be efficient since it got larger bed. On fuel, that depends on your load. Unladed and normal driving the 2.2 will be efficient. Give them something to haul then 2.2 will be more stressed while the 3.2 will struggle less.

Maintenance wise, Strada since its almost a century-old vehicle all kinks have now remedies and aftermarket parts are abundant.

Truth is, they all have turboe lag..be it the 3.2 4M40 or 3.2 Puma. Going with sprint booster could help, but still its like fooling the the potentiometer to respond earlier.. Attached is the detailed explanation for sprint booster and similar products.
Sprint Booster ? Is It Worth It? | outbackjoe

Agree. With the 3.2 Strada, lag is minimized since power is more linear than the 2.5. Don't let the paper specs fool you, I enjoyed the power of the 4m40 way more than a 4d56 vgt I get to drive usually even if the former has a traditional turbo. Tradeoff is just the higher fuel consumption and the added noise due to the bigger displacement. Im sure it goes the same way with the ranger.

Now if you're still comparing the 2.5 and 2.2 models of the two, it's safer to choose the one with the bigger displacement. I still dont trust the notion that more turbo is better than more displacement especially if we're talking about hauling.

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[glenn_duke]

Agree. With the 3.2 Strada, lag is minimized since power is more linear than the 2.5. Don't let the paper specs fool you, I enjoyed the power of the 4m40 way more than a 4d56 vgt I get to drive usually even if the former has a traditional turbo. Tradeoff is just the higher fuel consumption and the added noise due to the bigger displacement. Im sure it goes the same way with the ranger.

Now if you're still comparing the 2.5 and 2.2 models of the two, it's safer to choose the one with the bigger displacement. I still dont trust the notion that more turbo is better than more displacement especially if we're talking about hauling.

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3.2 is 4M41
4M40 is 2.8

[glenn_duke]

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[glenn manikis]

i read somewhere.. the Engine of the ranger is the same engine gamit ng LANDROVER...

and ang engine ng strada.. the same din ba engine ng L300van at ng AUV na adventure?

if i were to choose.... kung papasada ako... sa pang L300 or pang adventure na engine na ako...

But kung overall performance and pag uusapan, power, torque, fuel efficiency, noise and vibration level... i would not look who got the bigger engine.. but... sa specs. nya.. or

titingin ako sa HP nya at torque.... ayan naman talaga ang dapat natin tingnan....

wala naman sa laki ng engine yan... at madami nang mas modernong engines dyan... mas maliit pero mas malakas ang hp pati ang torque.... newer technology kung baga.....

example ko lang sainyo.. yung engine ng MB100 2.9 5cylinder.. hp power nya i think nasa 90hp lang....

napunta lang lahat sa diesel yung power nya.... i mean malakas lang sa diesel...

IMO the engine of the ranger is completely a different animal compared to the engine of the strada...