Please help me buy my first vehicle

[RR_22]

Going to OP, I hope he doesn't get overwhelmed and information overloaded.

To reiterate, he doesnt know how to drive properly and it will be his first vehicle.

*Gobilamoko- what's the status, have you decided?



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[Egan101]

Torque steer can be a problem on front wheel drive cars with higher torque engines ( > 210 N·m ) and transverse layout. This is the name given to the tendency for some front wheel drive cars to pull to the left or right under hard acceleration.

Newer turbo FWD cars deliver that amount of torque (or more) and there seems to be not much of a problem with the wheels pulling left or right. Go check out a few of them and give them a try.

[dr. d]

i bought my diesel innova with manual transmission, in 2005.
after 110K km and 11 years, it still runs very very well, giving at least 10 km/li in the city. no headaches.
the body? well, my son is the primary driver now. let's just keep it at that.
but it does still look great from the left side.

my point being, with a little luck and common sense, your car can still be running great, by the time your child graduates from elementary or even high school.

[iceblueyes]

My gripe with CVTs is so far, afaik, they are not serviceable here in PH. In the off chance that something goes wrong, whether it be by negligence or badluck. Dasal na may surplus na agad ang punta mo. Not saying that conventional AT or Manual do not have their own headaches but at least I feel you have more options on what to do about it.

the diesel Innova 2.8 E might be a good fit, there are probably discounts since Christmas/year end na.
If you are not confident with your driving skills pa the Avanza 1.5G is a good alternative, smaller.

[jut703]

This is my predicament..

My soon to be wife just gave birth, so 5-6 years from now mag-aaral na yun. I'm thinking na habang di pa siya nag-aaral makabili na ako ng sasakyan kasi once na magstart na ako magbayad ng tuition, aka di ko na kayanin bumili ng sasakyan. Tapos bibili siyempre, I'll also be looking into getting my own house. so.. ang nasa utak ko po ay buy now while you still can before you can't afford it anymore. Kaya ang kung bibili na ngayon, bumili narin ng mataas - taas na vehicle na gusto ko narin na hindi ko na ibebenta. Of course my logic can be wrong :D

Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd get the cheapest car that can serve my needs, then focus on saving for a house and my child's education.

A secondhand 1999-2002 CRV should serve your needs well. Around 200-250k, plus repairs of around 50k. Yes it's 15 years old and is pretty thirsty (I get 6 km/L with our 2000 CRV for city driving, 11-12 km/L on the highway). But it's very spacious, durable underchassis, and looks timeless. Whatever you'll spend on incremental fuel use and maintenance is still less than the 16k monthly amortization for a brand new car.




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[jut703]

the diesel Innova 2.8 E might be a good fit, there are probably discounts since Christmas/year end na.
If you are not confident with your driving skills pa the Avanza 1.5G is a good alternative, smaller.

I agree, the Innova is a great choice for long-term ownership. However, TS will have to shell out close to 500k for downpayment to ensure that his MA is under 16k/month.

The Avanza, I'm not so convinced. If you need to ferry 7 people, the BRV is a more solid choice even if it's a bit more expensive, or the Mobilio/Ertiga if you want more affordable options. If you just need the ride height, the Ecosport is cheaper and still looks more respectable than the Avanza. The cheaper 1.3 Avanza is down on power but not more efficient than the 1.5.



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[Gobilamoka]

My gripe with CVTs is so far, afaik, they are not serviceable here in PH. In the off chance that something goes wrong, whether it be by negligence or badluck. Dasal na may surplus na agad ang punta mo. Not saying that conventional AT or Manual do not have their own headaches but at least I feel you have more options on what to do about it.

the diesel Innova 2.8 E might be a good fit, there are probably discounts since Christmas/year end na.
If you are not confident with your driving skills pa the Avanza 1.5G is a good alternative, smaller.

Don't have the luxury of having a big budget to get a practice car.. planning to get a car and be extra careful and learn to drive with it hehehe

[Salamander13]

Yes, try to save up for the Innova kahit yung J trim and Diesel.

If you want a smaller vehicle then I suggest Chevrolet Trax (since naghahanap ka rin ng alternative from Ecosport). We have both and I regularly use them. pag maramihan na sakay Innova pag dalawa lang kami ni misis yung Trax. and the trax is soooo much fun to drive.

[eryxon]

I dont care much about image, its reliability Im more concern. They say avanza is cheap and used as taxi but who cares except those with insecurity and wants to be seen as somebody. Its not the ride actually but the driver and how they drive to get respect.

My criteria of a good vehicle:

1. It is utilized as taxi (sign of reliability).
2. Availability of spare parts.
3. Simple design and not so complicated system.
4. Its multipurpose (practical).
5. After market support.
6. Longer production model.

[Lakwatsero]

I dont care much about image, its reliability Im more concern. They say avanza is cheap and used as taxi but who cares except those with insecurity and wants to be seen as somebody. Its not the ride actually but the driver and how they drive to get respect.

My criteria of a good vehicle:

1. It is utilized as taxi (sign of reliability).
2. Availability of spare parts.
3. Simple design and not so complicated system.
4. Its multipurpose (practical).
5. After market support.
6. Longer production model.

You're looking at the Crosswind and the Adventure with those criteria lol.

[MR_BIG18]

I just have to ask. Why is your handle "ako malibog" spelled backwards?

you really need to ask that?

[n_spinner06]

Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd get the cheapest car that can serve my needs, then focus on saving for a house and my child's education.

A secondhand 1999-2002 CRV should serve your needs well. Around 200-250k, plus repairs of around 50k. Yes it's 15 years old and is pretty thirsty (I get 6 km/L with our 2000 CRV for city driving, 11-12 km/L on the highway). But it's very spacious, durable underchassis, and looks timeless. Whatever you'll spend on incremental fuel use and maintenance is still less than the 16k monthly amortization for a brand new car.




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I second this.

To the ts, im not sure if in the 16k monthly you have already factored in fuel/toll expenses (kasi batangas), maintenance fees, registration/insurance fees, parking fees, etc because they could really pile up. I agree that the brand new innova, or whatnot are excellent cars/choices but if you have to stretch your budget it's not worth the regular financial stress you will be experiencing.

Best choice is get 2nd hand. Then focus your resources on the more important things like education ng child mo and the house. Con lang nito is of course minimal ang alam mo sa kotse baka maloko ka. Bring a friend or mechanic na lang to check the car before purchase.

Another option is get a cheaper brand new car. Kung automatic lang even the econo cars have that already. Yung ground clearance is overrated imho. Few years ago na pangit kalsada paakyat ng sagada I saw picantos na obviously overloaded but got there anyway. Scrapes here and there, sure but their wheels didnt fall off. Just know the limits of the vehicle and drive accordingly. I'm not saying you get an econo car. What im saying is you might be missing out on other great options at your price point or lower. Of all the places ive been to, bilang lang ang lugar na alam kong hindi kaya puntahan ng sedan. So don't use the exemption to decide. I doubt if i.offroad mo naman vehicle mo...

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[n_spinner06]

You're looking at the Crosswind and the Adventure with those criteria lol.

Not really bad choices imho kung di ka maselan. Very tough and rugged vehicles. It is very engaging to drive a manual auv in rush hour traffic. Pag sobrang ok nvh, auto trans, too comfortable, aantukin ka lang. Hahaha. Sorry for the OT.

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[dr. d]

You're looking at the Crosswind and the Adventure with those criteria lol.

why not!
heh heh.

[Turbo Diesel]

Why not get a vios 1.5G and save the rest of your cash for other more important things?
It's cheap (relatively)
Durable
Easy to maintain
Abundant in spare parts
Good on fc
Big enough for your growing kid.


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[jut703]

Why not get a vios 1.5G and save the rest of your cash for other more important things?
It's cheap (relatively)
Durable
Easy to maintain
Abundant in spare parts
Good on fc
Big enough for your growing kid.


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I find the Vios G unnecessary. It doesn't offer anything special over the 1.3E, except for a tad more power. But the 1.3E is sufficient for daily driving unless you like going above 160 kph frequently. The Vios E is a great starter car since it fits most buyers' needs at an affordable price point.

For the price of the Vios G, other alternatives are better. The City VX is also easy to maintain with abundant parts, is durable, priced the same as the Vios, but with more space, more power, and way more toys. The Ecosport Trend offers more toys too with the critical benefit of a higher ride height, though the transmission could be an issue in the long run. Even Toyota's own Altis G gives the Vios G a run for its money because it has much more space, power, and class compared to its subcompact brother, all for just a slightly higher price tag.


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[Turbo Diesel]

I find the Vios G unnecessary. It doesn't offer anything special over the 1.3E, except for a tad more power. But the 1.3E is sufficient for daily driving unless you like going above 160 kph frequently. The Vios E is a great starter car since it fits most buyers' needs at an affordable price point.

For the price of the Vios G, other alternatives are better. The City VX is also easy to maintain with abundant parts, is durable, priced the same as the Vios, but with more space, more power, and way more toys. The Ecosport Trend offers more toys too with the critical benefit of a higher ride height, though the transmission could be an issue in the long run. Even Toyota's own Altis G gives the Vios G a run for its money because it has much more space, power, and class compared to its subcompact brother, all for just a slightly higher price tag.


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I suggested the 1.5 coz I didn't know the 1.3 had an AT I thought MT exclusive yung 1.3.

[dr. d]

So I have a 4 month old daughter so I need to get a vehicle pang service namin. My wife is from batanggas so byabyahe kame dun at least once a month. Here are criterias:

Ps. I am a total car newb. Dont even know how to drive properly yet.

1. Mataas, at least hugher than sedans. May isang part kasi papunta sa bahay sa batanggas na rough road and malubak konti.

2. Matic. Evetually tuturuan si wife nag drive

3. Bank financing so price to not exceed 1.1m

4. Good fuel consumption?

Current choice is the asx kasi may 100k discount daw.
Any inputs po would be appreciated

get a pre-owned innova diesel, AT or MT.
may sukli ka pa.
these guys were built to last, in my opinion.

[anthon05]

For a new vehicle owner. i will get a Toyota Vios G AT or an Avanza G AT. for highway driving the Avanza might be not as 'agile' as a Vios G. I have a Vios G AT its very easy to maintain parts are everywhere , sa gas station ko lang change oil 1k+ lang gastos ko. and mas tipid sa fuel compared to the ASX.

[Wh1stl3r2]

you really need to ask that?

It's just hard for me to take someone seriously with a handle like that bro. To his credit TS seems to be serious, but I find his choice of handle peculiar.