Car for a young dad

[Calistro]

Tsikoteers, can I have some feedbacks? Any young family starting out there? Doing this for a friend. They basically have no background in cars, haven't owned one and have one baby boy around one year old. Everything will be from their pockets, no company sponsors and fuel economy as well as maintenance are top on the priority list. Budget is a bit limited and 900k is pushing it to the limit. No Manual transmission as his wife will be driving it also from time to time. Around 800k is tolerable, lower would be better. Daily driver from Manila to Cavite. Weekends might fill the car with 5 people with the baby on trips. I have done some browsing around and it budget limits to these; on top of my head.

As much as I would like to recommend them my choices, I am a bit biased on the Mazda 3 and Altis, and we don't know anyone who owns these new Hondas from a personal standpoint.

Honda City V 800k
-Space and build are its selling points. I guess the trunk wins it over the Jazz. Haven't really driven one but when I was a passenger once, engine seems anemic? Aircon feels kinda weak too.

Honda Jazz
- Its nice and all, but will this be better than the city for hauling?

Mazda 3 1.5
- Questionable on reputation. Can't really answer them since yojin 3 is the only selling point, aside from the good looks and amenities. Pushing the ceiling with the budget on this.

Altis 1.6G
- Perhaps much more reasonable than the Mazda in the long run, although they are more biased with Honda. How fuel efficient is this compared to the sub compacts? From what I read, it can do 10 km/l?

Suzuki Ertiga, Toyota Avanza
- Dark horses, really not a fan of these since I find the Avanza flimsy. Re : Suzuki, I have no solid feedback on this, but the ertiga looks nice...

Thanks guys

[lowslowbenz]

I'd pick the Altis for them.

They need a proper car.

Not a headache.

[Yuki13]

Add Vios 1.3E to the list (762K), pasok sa budget.

[lowslowbenz]

Or a Vios, yeah.

You'd be surprised how much stuff a Vios trunk can accomodate.

[Calistro]

* lsb, sir lsb, care to expound the headache you mentioned? heheheh!

*boytsiks, I don't think he prefers second hand cars. Another friend of his recommended this, but he doesn't want to trouble himself with mechanics and going to autoshops outside of the casa. Tried persuading him that he needs to learn about it but I guess he's just not interested in the details.

[boytsiks]

Tsikoteers, can I have some feedbacks? Any young family starting out there? Doing this for a friend. They basically have no background in cars, haven't owned one and have one baby boy around one year old. Everything will be from their pockets, no company sponsors and fuel economy as well as maintenance are top on the priority list. Budget is a bit limited and 900k is pushing it to the limit. No Manual transmission as his wife will be driving it also from time to time. Around 800k is tolerable, lower would be better. Daily driver from Manila to Cavite. Weekends might fill the car with 5 people with the baby on trips. I have done some browsing around and it budget limits to these; on top of my head.

As much as I would like to recommend them my choices, I am a bit biased on the Mazda 3 and Altis, and we don't know anyone who owns these new Hondas from a personal standpoint.

Honda City V 800k
-Space and build are its selling points. I guess the trunk wins it over the Jazz. Haven't really driven one but when I was a passenger once, engine seems anemic? Aircon feels kinda weak too.

Honda Jazz
- Its nice and all, but will this be better than the city for hauling?

Mazda 3 1.5
- Questionable on reputation. Can't really answer them since yojin 3 is the only selling point, aside from the good looks and amenities. Pushing the ceiling with the budget on this.

Altis 1.6G
- Perhaps much more reasonable than the Mazda in the long run, although they are more biased with Honda. How fuel efficient is this compared to the sub compacts? From what I read, it can do 10 km/l?

Suzuki Ertiga, Toyota Avanza
- Dark horses, really not a fan of these since I find the Avanza flimsy. Re : Suzuki, I have no solid feedback on this, but the ertiga looks nice...

Thanks guys

Open to second hand cars sir?

Pero kung brand new, I would suggest vios 1.3 AT. I think less than 800k ang SRP. Nothing fancy but gets the job done. No first hand experience sa vios but I think maganda ang FC figures (although di na sya kasing efficient ng previous gen).

From your choices, I'll probably get the Altis. Why? I think its the most reasonable among the choice. I just find the new generation honda a bit overpriced for sub compact category.

HTH.






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[jut703]

Yup. I'd say Vios 1.3E AT too.


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[_Cathy_]

I'd go for Vios. I really like the look of the current gen Vios too.

The Altis 1.6 G A/T is P935K plus insurance of more or less 30K so it would be above their budget of 900k? My Altis never reached 10 km/l. 9.9 km/l was the most I got and my daily route has zero traffic.

[JohnM]

Kasya ba stroller sa trunk ng Yaris with the seats up? The hatch can swallow bulky objects that won't fit in a sedan.

[Egan101]

I'd go for the Jazz V. The City may have a big trunk but when you need the extra space, you can fold the rear seats in the Jazz and you now have enormous space for a small hatch to carry a lot of stuff (like a small minivan). The Honda 1.5L engine is good enough for something the size of the City or Jazz but it does lack low end grunt. The older lower trim City and Jazz with the 1.3L engine are those that are really anemic, specially if AT.

The new Vios is another alternative to the City. It looks better than the previous model but some say the heavier weight caused its FC to dip against the previous model.

How about the Lancer EX GLX? It is cheaper than the Altis or Mazda3. They say FC is good for the Lancer EX 1.6L.

[Calistro]

Totally forgot about the Vios since the city has been the highlight of our discussion last night.

Plan is to get the car by the end of the year to take advantage of discounts.

They're not sold on the Mitsu Lancer MX also =/ We'll try bringing the stroller when they decide its time for a test drive

[Syuryuken]

kung less than 900k ang budget hindi ako magdadalawang isip sa 1.5LTZ Spin.

[1D4LV]

5 people with baby. This is on the assumption that you will also carry extra luggages + stroller.

imho, a sedan may not work out. Why not get a second hand innova? This way, the back end can contain your luggages + stroller, and the middle one can seat 3 people comfortably.
the way second hand innovas sell these days are in the vicinity of 550-600k for a 6 year old model.

and yes, second hand fortuners, everests or montero sports would also be good. pasok pa naman yan sa budget mo eh.

sample prices:

my two cents lang.

[Calistro]

Thanks for the input guys. I'll have to double check with them if their area in Cavite is flood prone. Also, I recommend test drives, but I feel that they might get carried away by a sales agent and the excitement of buying a new car, that's why I'm helping them maximize their budget and help them think on an objective manner heheheh! Baka mamaya maalok ng Honda Civic and that's the one they really like.. not a fan of stretched payments more than 3 years. Too much interest IMO. Sayang pera nila.

As I mentioned, someone has already suggested second hand cars, but the couple is still starting out and are a bit clueless on cars. They'd want to stick with the warranty within the casa as long as it still stays valid. On the other hand, I don't want to get blamed if ever the second hand car they got has had suddenly sprung problems out of nowhere. Di ko rin naman sila matutulungan since they're on Cavite and I am on QC.

[jcal68]

Speaking from experience, choose a hatchback. There will be times when its raining and you have to get something from the back. You can often just reach in to get things. The hatchback door also serves as your umbrella as you arm yourself with all the baby bags and stroller.

[Ry_Tower]

Yup. I'd say Vios 1.3E AT too.


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+100. Malaki na din vios vs. dati and mas maganda pa looks niya ngayon. Pogi.

[Calistro]

Mukhang meron silang nakausap na Honda fanboys. Mas safe daw Honda sa Toyota.

Sabi ko nalang tignan niya NCAP safety rating.

Making sales pitch sa vios lol. Re: Spin, pano parts availability ng chevy? Ok na ba? Saka after sales ng casa? Might be good for the club members here, pero pano un mga inde member ng Chevy clubs? Salamats

EDIT : I checked the safety ratings, mukhang 5 star naman karamihan

[Ry_Tower]

Mukhang meron silang nakausap na Honda fanboys. Mas safe daw Honda sa Toyota.

Sabi ko nalang tignan niya NCAP safety rating.

Making sales pitch sa vios lol. Re: Spin, pano parts availability ng chevy? Ok na ba? Saka after sales ng casa? Might be good for the club members here, pero pano un mga inde member ng Chevy clubs? Salamats

EDIT : I checked the safety ratings, mukhang 5 star naman karamihan

Medyo out of reach lang kasi jazz pero maganda naman talaga yun eh.

[peejay_07]

honda jazz 1.5 V CVT is 808k. lumampas lang ng 8k sa budget.

medyo bias ako sa honda jazz since i've owned the 2nd gen. Pero ganda kasi talaga nung ULT seats config. yung bago nga ULTR pa ang seats config.

Medyo out of reach lang kasi jazz pero maganda naman talaga yun eh.

[funkeemunkee]

Vios. Stretch the budget a little, Altis.


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