Innova V vs Innova G AT vs Montero GLS AT vs Fortuner G AT vs Corolla Cross G vs Territory Titanium

[hardwang]

The Ford is like an attractive, well-endowed girl ... looks exceptional, feels exceptional ... but then there's the maintenance issue ... regularly needs to go to parlor ... and also regularly needs to go to parlor ... then there's the regular need to go to the parlor ... plus the cost of creams, cosmetics, makeups to keep in tip-top shape ... rarely on time ... cannot be depended on ... great when new ... gets horrible when old ...

The Toyota is like the girl, next door ... looks good with features that lasts ... dependable ... practical ... works well ... good career ... low maintenance ... ages gracefully ...

Baka depende sa model. Ako, pinsan ko, at kaibigan ko naka Ranger 2.2L dati. Wala namang naging issues, consistent solid ang reliability. Bugbog yung mga yun sa byahe ha. Yung Focus naman namin hindi na powershift dual clutch pero napa warranty makina, ilang taon na din lumipas, di na ulit nagkaroon ng problema pa... another is yung pre-facelifted Mustang the one with the V8 and 6 speed auto, one of the most reliable muscle cars.

So if you’re looking at Ford vehicles mas maganda mag research sa model na tinitignan as it seems may ibang models na ok, may iba na hindi. Quality varies from model to model.

Yung Territory hindi pa natin masasabi talaga. Not much history and info sa CVT and its turbo engine. We’ll just have to see in 3 years or so kung may problema.

[GTcervan]

Agree with the Mux. Looks class-leading in space and NVH. Archaic as it sounds, but I'm hoping they don't include the electronic parking brake in local models. Much like how they retained the hydraulic PS in local Dmax.

Most likely sa low-end trims, isuzu will retain the traditional handbrake lever but those units are limited to the 1.9 rz4e kasi wala naman low-end na 3.0 4jj3 unless may lt 4x4 din like the d-max.

[babkalakal]

Baka depende sa model. Ako, pinsan ko, at kaibigan ko naka Ranger 2.2L dati. Wala namang naging issues, consistent solid ang reliability. Bugbog yung mga yun sa byahe ha. Yung Focus naman namin hindi na powershift dual clutch pero napa warranty makina, ilang taon na din lumipas, di na ulit nagkaroon ng problema pa... another is yung pre-facelifted Mustang the one with the V8 and 6 speed auto, one of the most reliable muscle cars.

So if you’re looking at Ford vehicles mas maganda mag research sa model na tinitignan as it seems may ibang models na ok, may iba na hindi. Quality varies from model to model.

Yung Territory hindi pa natin masasabi talaga. Not much history and info sa CVT and its turbo engine. We’ll just have to see in 3 years or so kung may problema.

you are lucky. kinda had a different experience.

my uncle had a 2011 Ford fiesta sedan dct. had the transmission replaced but pabalik balik pasin sa kasa. he sold it without ever finding a solution to the horrible transmission.

we had a 2009 ranger 2.2 at. had it for less than two years. intercooler piping had a habit of breaking and leaking boost. masakit sa bulsa palitan at 7k sa casa. finally just before selling transmission was acting up. palaging nakailaw yun dashboard. solenoid ekek. sold it at around 30k plus kms.

[babkalakal]

sorry not 2009 but 2015 ranger 2.2. AT

[hardwang]

you are lucky. kinda had a different experience.

my uncle had a 2011 Ford fiesta sedan dct. had the transmission replaced but pabalik balik pasin sa kasa. he sold it without ever finding a solution to the horrible transmission.

we had a 2009 ranger 2.2 at. had it for less than two years. intercooler piping had a habit of breaking and leaking boost. masakit sa bulsa palitan at 7k sa casa. finally just before selling transmission was acting up. palaging nakailaw yun dashboard. solenoid ekek. sold it at around 30k plus kms.

As I said, depende sa model. We all know their DCT is crappy. It's already common knowledge at this point, that's why we bought the Focus since it doesn't have the DCT. Also our Ranger had a manual transmission so I can't comment on your experience sa AT. Yung sa intercooler, hindi ba dapat na warranty ninyo yun since less than two years pa lang naman? I had a similar experience but after being replaced with a different intercooler under warranty, wala ng issue. Kung recurring yung issue sa inyo, it means the casa probably didn't install it properly. That's why if one is looking at Ford vehicles and he's not lazy, mas maigi mag research. I mean if you test drove one and really liked it over its competitors, tapos kaya ka lang atrasado kasi ang inaalala mo yung reliability, might as well ask from the owners of the model and variant you liked. If they say they had bad experience, avoid it, and if they say wala naman silang problema, go. Sayang naman if someone is missing out on an otherwise reliable vehicle because some of the cars in their line up has issues tapos hindi naman related or iba yung parts na gamit sa model na gusto mo.

[babkalakal]

As I said, depende sa model. We all know their DCT is crappy. It's already common knowledge at this point, that's why we bought the Focus since it doesn't have the DCT. Also our Ranger had a manual transmission so I can't comment on your experience sa AT. Yung sa intercooler, hindi ba dapat na warranty ninyo yun since less than two years pa lang naman? I had a similar experience but after being replaced with a different intercooler under warranty, wala ng issue. Kung recurring yung issue sa inyo, it means the casa probably didn't install it properly. That's why if one is looking at Ford vehicles and he's not lazy, mas maigi mag research. I mean if you test drove one and really liked it over its competitors, tapos kaya ka lang atrasado kasi ang inaalala mo yung reliability, might as well ask from the owners of the model and variant you liked. If they say they had bad experience, avoid it, and if they say wala naman silang problema, go. Sayang naman if someone is missing out on an otherwise reliable vehicle because some of the cars in their line up has issues tapos hindi naman related or iba yung parts na gamit sa model na gusto mo.

out of warranty 2nd owner already inherited it from a family friend.

[jut703]

some buyers like simple. the simpler, the better.
other buyers want the latest with the mostest.

some buyers choose their cars on the basis of the showroom blings.
other buyers think of scenarios 5-10 years down the road.

whatever you have,
there will always be pros and cons.

Exactly. To each his own.

Everyone has different value systems when deciding their cars. One’s own choice may not be the best choice for someone else.


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[ice15]

Finally saw a Corolla Cross!

One was while driving along C5 and the other a BGC

Looks ok, but the Territory still looks better.

[ice15]

We all know their DCT is crappy. It's already common knowledge at this point, that's why we bought the Focus since it doesn't have the DCT. Also our Ranger had a manual transmission so I can't comment on your experience sa AT. Yung sa intercooler, hindi ba dapat na warranty ninyo yun since less than two years pa lang naman? I had a similar experience but after being replaced with a different intercooler under warranty, wala ng issue.

Exactly why we are fortunate to be members of this forum and we get to discuss issues of various cars.

I honestly find it disappointing and alarming that both of you have issues with the intercooler.

As for the DCT, I've heard about horror stories for the longest time, pero even my best friend in AUS decided to get a Fiesta since all her friends are using one!
Ganun din colleague ni misis, decided to get an EcoSport and she's happy with it.

[GTcervan]

Finally saw a Corolla Cross!

One was while driving along C5 and the other a BGC

Looks ok, but the Territory still looks better.

Good for you.

Ako ni isa wala pang nakikita sa daan pero yung territory mangilan-ilan na.