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    fellow tsikoteers. kindly asking for your inputs.

    yung bayaw ko (family of 3 with a 2year old) is looking to replace his non-running civic lx-carb. ang main na limiting factor is his budget around 270k. fuel efficient, manual transmission and sedan a must.

    promising leads from repossesed units (security bank, east west, psbank and also HMR auction. reasonable mileages 19-45k kms. yun nga lang bidding pa.

    2014-2018 models
    1.almera 1.2 MT (occasionally may 1.5 MT na pasok)
    2.mirage g4 1.2 glx/gls MT
    3.accent 1.4 MT

    nahihilo na kami kahahanap. ang mirage daw makalampag, the accent interior is extra hard and shiny, i know next to nothing sa almera. so yun po. best bet among the choices. help!

    thanks

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    I would avoid the mirage. I've ridden so many grab mirages and they all suck.

    I rented the almera (4AT) and its ok but a little cramped. steering and suspension are ok. brakes are good(hindi tinanggal yun brake assist unlike sa pinas).

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    i actually paid for reservation on an almera last year during their sale. too bad naubusan ako ng stock i'd daily drive it even if it looks like an early 2000's car inside and out LOL

    mirage is kinda small, i don't think it belongs in this group

    accent, yan ba yung walang airbags?

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    yes. accent without airbags otherwise overbudget na.

    ang nakita pa lang namin in person mirage at accent. from pics parang maluwag daw almera so definitely have to see in person soon. attracted siya sa mirage dahil sa fuel economy. full stop. ewan ko lang kung naka test drive siya ng mirage.

    nagpapasama nga tumingin ng almera nakita niya kaso sa lubao pampangga..and we are from dasmariñas cavite. ouch..

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    yes. accent without airbags otherwise overbudget na.

    ang nakita pa lang namin in person mirage at accent. from pics parang maluwag daw almera so definitely have to see in person soon. attracted siya sa mirage dahil sa fuel economy. full stop. ewan ko lang kung naka test drive siya ng mirage.

    nagpapasama nga tumingin ng almera nakita niya kaso sa lubao pampangga..and we are from dasmariñas cavite. ouch..

    thanks.
    pampangga has the best sisig and porq bbq.

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    Pinaka maluwag ang Almera sa choices. Okay din daw sa aircon at suspension. Sana puwede ma-test drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    fellow tsikoteers. kindly asking for your inputs.

    yung bayaw ko (family of 3 with a 2year old) is looking to replace his non-running civic lx-carb. ang main na limiting factor is his budget around 270k. fuel efficient, manual transmission and sedan a must.

    promising leads from repossesed units (security bank, east west, psbank and also HMR auction. reasonable mileages 19-45k kms. yun nga lang bidding pa.

    2014-2018 models
    1.almera 1.2 MT (occasionally may 1.5 MT na pasok)
    2.mirage g4 1.2 glx/gls MT
    3.accent 1.4 MT

    nahihilo na kami kahahanap. ang mirage daw makalampag, the accent interior is extra hard and shiny, i know next to nothing sa almera. so yun po. best bet among the choices. help!

    thanks

    Have experience on all 3 though iba't ibang year model pero same din naman. Got a 2021 Almera 1.5 A/T. Bro in law has G4 GLX CVT and friend/officemate have 1.4 AT. Pinakamaluwag at komportable (aircon/suspension) ang Almera. Pinakamatipid sa gas ang G4. Accent, non remarkable in all aspect. Between the 3, I'd get Almera.. Got one nga eh. hehehe. HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    fellow tsikoteers. kindly asking for your inputs.

    yung bayaw ko (family of 3 with a 2year old) is looking to replace his non-running civic lx-carb. ang main na limiting factor is his budget around 270k. fuel efficient, manual transmission and sedan a must.

    promising leads from repossesed units (security bank, east west, psbank and also HMR auction. reasonable mileages 19-45k kms. yun nga lang bidding pa.

    2014-2018 models
    1.almera 1.2 MT (occasionally may 1.5 MT na pasok)
    2.mirage g4 1.2 glx/gls MT
    3.accent 1.4 MT

    nahihilo na kami kahahanap. ang mirage daw makalampag, the accent interior is extra hard and shiny, i know next to nothing sa almera. so yun po. best bet among the choices. help!

    thanks
    wow, my sister in law just sold her 6 year old (low mileage, casa maintained) company issued Almera 1.5MT last month for 280K - officemate nya fiancé nya so they used his company car as a daily driver.

    of the 3 choices, my vote goes to the Mirage

    Rented it once. No idea how you define "kalampagin" but I find the suspension too soft and the engine too weak. but there's strength in numbers plus the car is locally made, hence you should not have any issue with parts in the very long run.

    Almera was way better in everything compared to the Mirage.
    My tito has an Accent, although I've never had the chance to ride/drive it.

    Your friend's Civic should be more than 20 years old now... if he keeps the car for 10-15 years. I'm more confident about the Mirage's local support compared to the Almera and Accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    wow, my sister in law just sold her 6 year old (low mileage, casa maintained) company issued Almera 1.5MT last month for 280K - officemate nya fiancé nya so they used his company car as a daily driver.

    of the 3 choices, my vote goes to the Mirage

    Rented it once. No idea how you define "kalampagin" but I find the suspension too soft and the engine too weak. but there's strength in numbers plus the car is locally made, hence you should not have any issue with parts in the very long run.

    Almera was way better in everything compared to the Mirage.
    My tito has an Accent, although I've never had the chance to ride/drive it.

    Your friend's Civic should be more than 20 years old now... if he keeps the car for 10-15 years. I'm more confident about the Mirage's local support compared to the Almera and Accent.
    banawe is your local supplier. no issues at all for the list here.

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    Wag Mirage. Manual tranny uses clutch cable.
    Dami ko nang nabasang post na na-stranded dahil naputulan ng kable.

    You could replace it regularly or keep a spare cable in the car pero hassle lalo na kung may pasahero kang maliit na bata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWest View Post
    Wag Mirage. Manual tranny uses clutch cable.
    Dami ko nang nabasang post na na-stranded dahil naputulan ng kable.
    .
    in that case...
    go mirage CVT!
    heh heh.

    but madalas ba maputulan ng clutch cable? how often does it happen for this model?
    baka naman, i-ilan lang naman, but queso ilang beses ma-recycle sa news, ay nagmumukhang madalas...
    Last edited by dr. d; December 7th, 2021 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in that case...
    go mirage CVT!
    heh heh.

    but madalas ba maputulan ng clutch cable? how often does it happen for this model?
    baka naman, i-ilan lang naman, but queso ilang beses ma-recycle sa news, ay nagmumukhang madalas...
    Incidentally while walking around the village a few weeks ago may Mirage na nakatabi sa kalsada and they were replacing the clutch cable. Yung CVT Mirage ng in-laws ko na no maintenance whatsoever still runs fine.

    I'd go with the new Almera in this case. The old one was bleh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    but madalas ba maputulan ng clutch cable? how often does it happen for this model?
    lahat naman siguro tayo dumaan sa cable type na clutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Incidentally while walking around the village a few weeks ago may Mirage na nakatabi sa kalsada and they were replacing the clutch cable. Yung CVT Mirage ng in-laws ko na no maintenance whatsoever still runs fine.

    I'd go with the new Almera in this case. The old one was bleh.
    scotty kilmer said,
    "if it's ok with you that the mirage will last 100,000 miles, then go for it. it's a cheap car that's cheaply made."
    in contrast, he mentions toyotas lasting 200... 300... 500,000 miles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    lahat naman siguro tayo dumaan sa cable type na clutch
    Magbaon ng spare cable at tools.
    Kaso madali lang kaya, mukhang nut ang bolt tsaka adjuster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    lahat naman siguro tayo dumaan sa cable type na clutch
    i did.
    my ford escort mexico 4 door had a clutch cable. malambot ang clutch pedal when the cable is new. tumitigas siya as the cable ages.
    the air-cooled VWs had clutch cable. but i was able to bring one home, even as the cable broke. for some reason, i was able to slide it in and out of gear, for the short distance home.
    clutch cables are easier to replace than hydraulic clutch mechanisms.

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    IMO. biggest difference ng cable type sa fluid type is pag naputol yung cable... wala na. yung fluid, unti unti mong mararamdaman na pumapalpak na

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWest View Post
    Wag Mirage. Manual tranny uses clutch cable.
    Dami ko nang nabasang post na na-stranded dahil naputulan ng kable.

    You could replace it regularly or keep a spare cable in the car pero hassle lalo na kung may pasahero kang maliit na bata.
    mahina ba yung quality ng shifter cable na ginagamit ng mirage hatch and g4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Incidentally while walking around the village a few weeks ago may Mirage na nakatabi sa kalsada and they were replacing the clutch cable. Yung CVT Mirage ng in-laws ko na no maintenance whatsoever still runs fine.

    I'd go with the new Almera in this case. The old one was bleh.
    New Almera with the Jatco CVT? Oh God no...

    Kung manual tranny pwede naman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    mahina ba yung quality ng shifter cable na ginagamit ng mirage hatch and g4?
    I have a CVT Mirage so it's not from personal experience. However, I used to frequent forums and FB groups ng Mirage and not a week went by na wala akong nababasang post asking for help sa pagpapalit ng clutch cable. It may be the cable's quality or perhaps clutch drivers lang yung mga nasisiraan.

    As for the Mirage in general... let's just say I have a slight case of buyer's remorse kaya hindi ko nire-recommend.

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