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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    May kakilala ako dati sa facebook na super fanatiko ng mitsubishi eh, yung tipong kahit teenager palang siya eh todo santo na siya sa mga models ng brand, kahit l300 pa yan, adventure o mirage. Hanggang sa naging ahente na siya ng mismong brand pagkatanda niya, ganun parin ang pagiging fanatiko niya. Alam ko nagkaroon ng bagong montero ang pamilya niya at pilit niyang pinagyayabang na mas maluwag daw ito sa loob kumpara sa todong nilalait niyang fortuner na mas malapad naman dun.

    Hays, ewan ko ba. Sadyang may mga tao lang talaga na makikitid ang utak at hindi kayang tumanggap ng mga opinion galing sa mga ibang tao.
    Bagay nga sa kanya Montero, makitid na oto para sa makitid na utak.

    May kilala rin ako ganyan, todo post ng Mirage niya, que mas mura mas matipid daw sa Vios. Pinasok sa grab, ayan labasan lahat ng kalampag bagong bago pa. Wala naman daw sira, sadyang kalampagin lang. Hanggang sa pinagsawaan na, bumili na lang ng Vios pamalit si mokong.

    Hindi ko magegets yung brand loyalty. Todo defend pag binatikos na yung brand. Wala naman loyalty award pinamimigay.

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Bakit biglang napunta sa transmission? Akala ko sa electronic issues lang. I’m just saying I didn’t encounter any issues relating to electronics sa Ford, wala akong sinabi sa powertrain.

    Anyway, the closest I had was maybe with the Mazda 2 which was based on the Fiesta, yung transponder sa susi hindi responsive. Pero hindi ako sigurado kung Ford ba o Mazda ang gumawa ng transponder key.
    I can keep listing electronics issues. Pero people also deserve to know na hindi lang yan haharapin nila pag nachambahan. And if the maker can't even get the mechanicals right, what about the rest of the vehicle? Kawawa yung buyer in the end.

    There's a saying, it takes 20 years to build a reputation and 5 minutes to ruin it. Until such time they can consistently roll out good vehicles, that reputation will persist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post

    May kakilala ako dati sa facebook na super fanatiko ng mitsubishi eh, yung tipong kahit teenager palang siya eh todo santo na siya sa mga models ng brand, kahit l300 pa yan, adventure o mirage. Hanggang sa naging ahente na siya ng mismong brand pagkatanda niya, ganun parin ang pagiging fanatiko niya. Alam ko nagkaroon ng bagong montero ang pamilya niya at pilit niyang pinagyayabang na mas maluwag daw ito sa loob kumpara sa todong nilalait niyang fortuner na mas malapad naman dun.
    if i were the mitsu dealership boss,
    i would have loved that guy to continue working for me.
    heh heh.

    every car has its share of adoring fanatics.
    a potential issue against them, is that not everybody may agree with them.

    i once nonchalantly commented, as i was climbing onto my colleague's fortuner,
    that his car and my innova seem to have the same interior passenger space.
    aba! the person reacted with, what i thought then, "uncommon sagacity".
    i never rode in it again.

    in my opinion,
    it is much easier to qualify interior passenger space, if one were a biggie, rather than if one were a smallie.

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    #34
    Doesn't look like it from outside, but the Montero Sport's cabin is really snug. The footwell is what turned me off the most. Driver's seat can't provide a comfortable manspreading position for even an average/small guy like me. And the relatively tight cabin makes me feel claustrophobic. But I do have a couple of big friends who don't mind at all and actually prefer the cocooned feeling inside.

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post

    Hindi ko magegets yung brand loyalty. Todo defend pag binatikos na yung brand. Wala naman loyalty award pinamimigay.
    Wala ka magawa sa mga ganyan. The best na para sa kanila yung chosen brand nila.

    Parang mga Honda fanatics din yan. Sinasamba yung Civic or City or Jazz nila. As if yun na holy grail ng kotse tapos puro body kits at tambutso lang. Nabara ko nga one time yung isa, sabi ko drive ka muna ng Accord bago mo sabihin the best yan Civic mo.


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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post

    i once nonchalantly commented, as i was climbing onto my colleague's fortuner,
    that his car and my innova seem to have the same interior passenger space.
    aba! the person reacted with, what i thought then, "uncommon sagacity".
    i never rode in it again.
    Laitin mo na lahat wag lang yung kotse nya! Hahahaha


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    #37
    innova...
    altis...
    what i probably subliminally want, is a camry...
    heh heh.

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Laitin mo na lahat wag lang yung kotse nya! Hahahaha


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    tunay!
    you criticize a man's house... he'll probably agree with you, if only in part.
    you criticize a man's car... you criticize his manhood.
    heh heh.

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    #39
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Yan talaga sinasabi nila (including the ones who never had a Ford). We had a Ford Ranger bought in 2013. More than 7 years of ownership before, wala namang electronic na issues eh. Other Ford cars we owned are the Ford Escape bought in 2005, sold in 2010, and currently a 2017 Focus. Zero issues with regards to their electronics.
    Actually, di ko naiisip na masisira yung "electronics" ng Territory in 10 years...

    Pero naiisip ko na yun ang iisipin ng possible buyers 10 years from now, hence not only will the value go down... worst case, walang interested bumili

    Big issue ko against the Territory is that sa screen and controls pati ng A/C

    2 years old pa lang yung City ko and bagal na bagal na ako sa UI ng head unit, paano pa kaya yung head unit ng Territory 5 years from now?

    Honestly, pangit na pangit ako sa head unit ng local Toyota cars. Pero at least madaling palitan 2-3 years later

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    #40
    some buyers like simple. the simpler, the better.
    other buyers want the latest with the mostest.

    some buyers choose their cars on the basis of the showroom blings.
    other buyers think of scenarios 5-10 years down the road.

    whatever you have,
    there will always be pros and cons.

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