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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunaflakes View Post
    Thanks everyone for the replies. I really appreciate it. Yep I did inquire na sa Metrobank, BPI and BDO.. I think I'm going with BPI, 20% DP then lower yung prices.. Ang samin kasi ng wife ko kaya gusto namin ng low down, since we're moving to the new house this may, we wanna use the extra 60-80k sana sa ibang appliances sa bahay.. hehe puro kasi kitchen stuff regalo samin nun kasal namin.. :D Thanks for all the replies, I'll go get the Rio na lang.. If only nde mabigat yung bahay, I'd go for the accent HB, sulit sana yun..

    Naguusap pa din kami ng wife ko with BPI vs. Dealer's low down.. Kasi mahirap naman lumipat ng bahay ng microwave, toaster, kitchen stuff, PC and aircon lang meron kami.. hahaha again maraming maraming salamat po mga sir..
    another side comment: might be more economical in the long run to increase your dp then i-credit card / 0% interest nyo yung appliances / furniture haha :D not to scare you, pero common sa mga nare-repossessed na kotse ng bank, dahil sa low-down high-monthly.

    do also check out the upcoming manila int'l auto show. baka makahanap kayo good deal, lalo na sponsor din dun ang BPI auto loan

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    #22
    In the long run sobrang talo ka sa low down.

    Give at least 20% dp, dapat nga mga 40% pa para kahit mabigat yung unang cashout, magaan na monthly mo. And if (knock on wood) may mga unwanted gastos throughout the month, hindi ka mamomroblema kung saan mo pupulutin yung pang-monthly mo sa kotse kasi napaka-liit lang.

    Gamit sa bahay? Pwede naman yan CC. Tapos 12 mos. pa, or, pwede rin paunti unti ang gamit sa bahay.

    Kasi ang gaan nga ng initial cashout mo pero sa 60 MONTHS ang laki parati ng bayarin na iniisip mo. Worth it ba? Hindi eh.

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    #23
    If you visit the rio forums most of them are disappointed with the FC. Ang lumalabas is its a subcompact that has a fuel economy of a compact.
    If your family has a trusty mechanic, go for 2nd hand nalang muna. Tapos pagkatapos na yung bahay nyo maybe then you can invest more in a car.
    But if 2nd hand is not an option, among your choices id pick the mirage. Although knocking issues aside, the accent would be very nice. And it would be a lot bigger than the picanto or mirage. FC according to their thread is right for a subcompact.

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    #24
    If you visit the forums, the 1.2LX Rio actually has decent economy

    More than what's "just right" for a subcompact ;)

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    #25
    TS pasakay naman sa Thread mo.

    What if the case will be say the car will be driven on Mon-Fri daily Hiway drive from Batangas to Alabang vice versa (170Km), what car would be the most frugal to drive. Currently have an automatic 1.6Sedan and a Fortuner. So what's the best option? Toll fee will be really a burden na so I have to get the lowest fuel sipping car? Suggestion pls?

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    #26
    Brand new? If fuel economy is the only thing that matters, Hyundai Eon or Suzuki Alto. Leaning towards the Eon.

    Secondhand, I'd go for something like the previous-generation Picanto with the older Epsilon 12-valve engine. Good economy, easy to maintain. Best combination of utility and economy would be a 1.3 MT Jazz or City, but prices are still high.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #27
    When we were still starting out, the underlying theme is utility. Something decent and affordable. With this idea, my vote goes to the Hyundai Eon.

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    #28
    i have the old picanto using it almost every from binan to malate manila. so mga around 80km balikan. ang ayaw ko lang sa small displacement mataas RPM sa 100kph 3,000 RPM. pero kasi pag takbo mo around 80 KPH around 2,500 RPM pero matipid naman pag 80 kph lang takbo mo. Pero if you push hard or maintain 3k RPM. mababa mileage.

    BTW sir Tunaflakes. I have pending reservation on kia rio and a friend in BPI na ok ang package at rates baka gusto mo ipasa ko nalang sayo

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    #29
    Thanks Niky..planning to get a brandnew car..my main objective is the most fuel efficient one..CRDI equipped cars vs. gas fed will it really be beneficial in my case considering the maintenance cost of the CRDI engine cars.

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    #30
    No brainer po eto, Mirage po, Looks palang taob na yung dalawa, LCD, push start button, more space, better parts, Mivec engine....

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    If you visit the forums, the 1.2LX Rio actually has decent economy

    More than what's "just right" for a subcompact ;)
    My bad. Puro 1.4ex or hatch pala yun. If thats the case, rio na. It looks good! The rear looks like an audi.

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    #32
    hmmmm.... IMHO kung sa subok na sa pangalan, go for mitsubishi. kung space naman.. RIO and Accent medyo malaki talaga space nila compare sa mirage...

    try mo test drive lahat ng choice mo sir.. kung ano mas feel mo sa apat go for it...malalaman mo yun if your'e driving the car na.. goodluck..

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    #33
    TS huwag kang matakot sa mga korean Cars at Korean products ngayon they comparable as Japanese products.. read these...

    Japan Vs Korean wave

    > Electronics and Appliances ...Samsung global annual sale alone not counting LG surpass Japans Sharp, Sony, Hitachi, JVC, Panasonic and etc combined. Because of these some of Japanese companies like Sharp is on financial trouble.
    >Cellphones, Tablets,and Smartphones... Only Samsung can stand against the mighty Apple products.,, Japanese products are far behind.
    >Shipbuilding Industry ......Koreas shipbuilding industry surpass Japan in the 1980's.. Today the biggest container, Oil rigs and platforms, bulk carriers, Car carriers, oil ships are probably made Korea.
    >Construction ......The biggest constructors of Refineries, Gas pipes line and etc in the Middle East are Daewoo, Hyundai, Samsung heavy Industries.
    The race to build the twin Petronas Tower, Tower 1 was build by Japans Hazama Corp and Tower 2 by Samsung C&T Corp..The Korean won.
    Cars,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,North American Car of the Year award. The last Japanese car to win these award was the 2006 Honda Civic. The Koreans have it lately on the 2009 Hyundai Genesis and the 2012 Hyundai Elantra,
    Movies, Music and entertainment industry...... Wala sagot and Japan ever since VoltesV , Godzilla and Power Rangers.
    .

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunaflakes View Post
    Update:

    Now Hyundai replied na to my query and gave me this for an accent 1.4 GL

    DP 38,000, 60 mos.= 12,435
    TS, if I were in your shoes, I would stay away from this particular variant of the Accent for the meantime.

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by jaguartiu View Post
    I would go for the Rio 1.2 also.. It pays to have bigger real estate with wheels on the road. Kotse mo parang pangalawang bahay mo na yon. The bigger the better.. Sa lahat na lumabas na mga bagong maliit na kotse ngayon ang Mirage parang kulang ang effort ng mga designer nya sa panlabas na porma. Kung tanggalin ang Mitsubishi badge sa Mirage at palitan ng Maling, it would easy pass as a
    China car.
    I share the same sentiment. In fact, the first time I saw the mirage, I remembered the toyota echo from the 90s.
    However, madali naman syang pagandahin. The souped-up Mirage at the Diamond Motors Valle Verde's showroom is a head turner.

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    #36
    wag po kayo ma ingganyo ng all in low down promo.. masiado malaki ang total na halaga ng iyong unit when everything is paid off !!

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by b0y37 View Post
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    However, madali naman syang pagandahin. The souped-up Mirage at the Diamond Motors Valle Verde's showroom is a head turner.
    Di kaya ma apektuhan ang FC nitong mirage kapag naka full body kit. yung additional weight may be a penalty to the FC not to mention the additional cost of the body kit.. I just wonder what will it be? Wanted: feedback from present owner/s with full body kit please..

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunaflakes View Post
    Hi everyone,

    My wife and I are looking at our 1st car and we're having problems deciding.. Initially we wanted to get a Mirage GLS M/T kasi it's like having a mini ASX (with the features).. But because of the long wait we decided to look for other options.. A nice SA from Kia then gave us some good deals on the Kia Rio 1.2 LX and the Picanto MT..

    Sa prices po hindi naman sila nagkakalayo..

    Mirage GLS M/T is at 588k
    DP 68,200, 5years=12,676

    Kia Picanto is at 545k
    DP 35,000, 5years=12,681

    Kia Rio is at 598k
    DP 39,000 5years=13,960

    Our number 1 priority po is the budget, with the quotes above po you can see na they play at around the same range(except the mirage with the higher DP) we are currently paying a house and lot na 19k+ a month and we need a car na kaya po naming isabay sa bahay namin.. Ano po kaya ang best for my small family..

    Below are our priorities:
    1. Budget (pero dahil same range sila ok lang idisregard to)
    2. fuel consumption
    3. features
    4. space
    5. wala masyadong problema or known issue

    Please help naman po.. Ang hirap po magdecide if wala masyadong alam sa mga sasakyan na pinagpipilian ko..

    Maraming salamat po sa lahat ng sasagot..
    *Tunaflakes: saang dealer mo nakuha yung Mirage GLS M/T is at 588k
    DP 68,200, 5years=12,676
    and ito Quote Originally Posted by Tunaflakes View Post
    Update:

    Now Hyundai replied na to my query and gave me this for an accent 1.4 GL

    DP 38,000, 60 mos.= 12,435


    TIA.

    To share: nakabasa ako ng feedback ok naman daw performance and fuel consumption - on city driving with heavy traffic is at 12km/l. ako kasi from molino cavite via daang hari to northgate (office) is around 14km (28km VV). so by computation i have more savings if i go with Mirage kasi yung shuttle fee and tricycle is the same amount as my daily gas cost. I only have my wife and a 7month old little angel. kaya im inclined with very sub compact sedan. good thing is kasya ako kahit medyo malaki ako. in eon and celerio i will not fit.
    Last edited by brainmafia_310; March 20th, 2013 at 02:10 AM. Reason: added info.

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    #39
    ^ wow, sarap ng byahe nyo sir, lalo na kung di trapik sa daang hari. IMO sulit yang mirage, between FC and space.

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    #40
    mismo sir bratpack. i just recently found an ultimate solution kay TS. i inquire in one of toyota SA's. this is the deal:

    34,700 ALL IN DP and 14,1++ monthly for 5 years. initially feeling ko mabigat pero nun naginquire ako kay BPI eto lumalabas
    142,400 DP (not all in) and 12,+++ monthly for 5 years.

    It got me thinking na ang difference ng 34700 and 142400 is 107700. 107700 divide by 60 months is equivalent to 1795. if we will add 1795 to 12+++ monthly magpapang abot ang low down payment at BPI quotation.

    meaning yung DP "parang" naka zero percent interest for 60 months.

    the low down price is care of TFS sabi ni SA and promo is until end of March and possible end of April 2013.

    i am more inclined talaga sa vios 2nd lang si mirage kasi rigidity nito tested na ng mga taxi drivers and ayoko ng masyado madaming abubot sa sasakyan, sakit ng ulo pag nasira eh. important sa akin basic power features and safety features di naman ako kumakarera sa kalsada eh.

    hope this will help.

    By the way, sana may sumagot ng mga queries ko above.

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