Fortuner G VVTi AT or Innova G D4D?

[jmpet626]

Go for gas variant na lang ng fort, mahal maintenance ng Diesel from maintaining diesel 08 sta fe and 09 Montero sport.

[vinj]

It's computed at 8km/l whether gas or diesel so diesel wins every time. However, my maintenance allowance remains constant as well, whether gas or diesel so if diesel upkeep is more expensive, it kinda evens out in the end. That's ASSUMING diesel upkeep is greater then gas upkeep. Is it?

In the first 100,000kms to 150,000kms, the diesel upkeep is pretty much the same unless you run into problems with your fuel system. Change oil, change filters, and you don't have any spark plugs to replace in a diesel.

There's a thread somewhere here on overall maintenance, where some owners posted their average cost per km (FC + PMS); I don't know if anyone posted a D4d versus VVTi comparo though.

Re. the D4d maintenance, we have several in the garage (Hiace and a few Innovas) and they're still pretty straightforward. I'd believe the maintenance costs of Mitsu and Hyundai are more expensive than Toyota based on what i've been reading and encountering (at least with our Hyundai Tucson versus our Toyota CASA serviced cars; wala na kaming Mitsu right now). We had one Innova which had the D4d problems but it was just eventually sold and replaced with another Innova diesel. If there's one thing i don't like much about the D4d Innova is that it feels quite slow/sluggish due to it's gearing (most likely) when i drive it on the highway. I feel that our Hiace Grandia and the Fortuner 2.5 D of my sister has better power delivery.

[mqavila]

Incidentally, can anyone confirm if the 2013 Fortuner VVTi variant comes with a touchscreen head unit and how much it would cost to activate the GPS? On the other hand, how much would it cost to upgrade the Innova's head unit to a touchscreen GPS head unit?

[vinj]

^Nagpa-quote kami for the office earlier this year and the touchscreen wasn't available on the VVTi variant. We ended up with two Monty Sport units.

On a side note, I used the Monty to Pampanga yesterday and i could not help but notice that the A/C was kinda on the weak side.

[lowslowbenz]

Is the Fortuner G VVti AT a 4x4 variant?

If it is ... dun ako.

[vinj]

Is the Fortuner G VVti AT a 4x4 variant?

If it is ... dun ako.

The VVTi is a 2.7 4x2. The 4x4 only comes in the 3.0L variant

[lowslowbenz]

The VVTi is a 2.7 4x2. The 4x4 only comes in the 3.0L variant

Primo, is the 3.0L gas or diesel? I wonder what the 2015 Fortuner looks like .... hehe

[crazy_boy]

^Nagpa-quote kami for the office earlier this year and the touchscreen wasn't available on the VVTi variant. We ended up with two Monty Sport units.

On a side note, I used the Monty to Pampanga yesterday and i could not help but notice that the A/C was kinda on the weak side.

napansin ko lang sa MS, hindi comfy yung 2nd row seat

Primo, is the 3.0L gas or diesel? I wonder what the 2015 Fortuner looks like .... hehe

diesel

[vinj]

^Diesel pards.

Toyota told us the new Innova would be out in 2014. One thing i hope is they also up the engines and transmissions on the new Fort.

[Retz]

Incidentally, can anyone confirm if the 2013 Fortuner VVTi variant comes with a touchscreen head unit and how much it would cost to activate the GPS? On the other hand, how much would it cost to upgrade the Innova's head unit to a touchscreen GPS head unit?

china brand touchscreen 2din HU GPS unit cost around 12k.

[lowslowbenz]

^Diesel pards.

Uy, nice! Benta ko na Vios sa 2015 ...

OT: side comment lang ha, ... NO PUN INTENDED ... can't help it eh. I strolled into a Mitsubishi mall display about a month ago and was dismayed when I saw that the Montero Sport was 4D56 pa pala? .... All the while I thought 4M40 na mga yun. Nawalan tuloy ako ng gana ..

[vinj]

Uy, nice! Benta ko na Vios sa 2015 ...

OT: side comment lang ha, ... NO PUN INTENDED ... can't help it eh. I strolled into a Mitsubishi mall display about a month ago and was dismayed when I saw that the Montero Sport was 4D56 pa pala? .... All the while I thought 4M40 na mga yun. Nawalan tuloy ako ng gana ..

It's an extremely updated 4d56. We have a couple of the non-vgt version at the office and power and comfort is waay better than the pre-vgt Fortuner 2.5 diesel. Fit and finish and the A/C of the Monty left things to be desired for though and i noticed some light smoke wiff already at idle (2,500kms old).

[fourtheboys96]

Incidentally, can anyone confirm if the 2013 Fortuner VVTi variant comes with a touchscreen head unit and how much it would cost to activate the GPS? On the other hand, how much would it cost to upgrade the Innova's head unit to a touchscreen GPS head unit?

My in-laws' had their Fortuner's HU replaced for about Php40K.
This includes two headrests with LCD display. The new HU is touch screen and has GPS navigation.
Installment basis from Toyota San Pablo.

[lowslowbenz]

It's an extremely updated 4d56.

Hmmm, kaya pala. But, upon learning that it was "still" a 4D56, nawalan talaga ako ng gana.

[vinj]

Hmmm, kaya pala. But, upon learning that it was "still" a 4D56, nawalan talaga ako ng gana.

I was still in short pants when the 4d56 was first brought out here. :D

[mqavila]

My in-laws' had their Fortuner's HU replaced for about Php40K.
This includes two headrests with LCD display. The new HU is touch screen and has GPS navigation.
Installment basis from Toyota San Pablo.

The agent I talked to assured me that the VVTi variants now have a touchscreen headunit but the GPS is not activated. When i asked him, he couldn't say for sure how much it would cost to activate it.

[lowslowbenz]

I was still in short pants when the 4d56 was first brought out here. :D

Yun na nga eh ...

[niky]

Hmmm, kaya pala. But, upon learning that it was "still" a 4D56, nawalan talaga ako ng gana.

Lots of carmakers extend engine architecture over decades. Just because the crank placement and deck layout are the same doesn't mean the rest of the engine is.

[GTi]

The 4D56 isn't so bad... It just tends to be a bit smoky in some applications- the typical old L300 and most notoriously the Montero Sport. But then having driven a Strada GLS Sport V a few days ago, I have to say the engine performance is definitely impressive, and its only 200kms old! One thing that can be improved upon though is the engine noise. Toyota's 2KD sounds much more refined than this unmistakably truck engine.

[mqavila]

The agent I talked to assured me that the VVTi variants now have a touchscreen headunit but the GPS is not activated. When i asked him, he couldn't say for sure how much it would cost to activate it.

Just asked Toyota Pasig over the weekend and they said that it would cost P25,000 to activate the GPS. This is ridiculous. For that price, I could probably buy an entirely new headunit with GPS activation. I wonder if there are any Tsikoteers here who was able to have their dealers activate the GPS for a lower price?

I'm about to pull the trigger on the Fortuner gas variant. This GPS activation is the only remaining issue for me...