Fortuner G VVTi AT or Innova G D4D?

[mqavila]

Thanks for all the inputs, guys! Really appreciate it.

I'll be getting the car through my company's car plan so it will definitely be a brand new vehicle.

I guess I can consider the Montero GLX AT but I just can't help but wonder that if I do get it, I'll keep on thinking that it would have been great to have gotten the GLS-V instead, with all the added bells and whistles.

Based on most of what has been said here, the Innova G D4D would be the best and most practical choice. To be honest, the pearl white color of this looks very good.

On a related note, however, how is the durability and longevity of the D4D engine? Will it require more maintenance as the years go by as compared to a gas engine? Will the maintenance costs be prohibitive?

[fourtheboys96]

If you look at the shape of Fortuner's body from the front or back, you basically see that the bottom part is wide, the upper isn't.

Ang luwag lang ang yung sa paanan. Pagdating sa katawan, sikip na hehehe

[GTi]

Thanks for all the inputs, guys! Really appreciate it.

I'll be getting the car through my company's car plan so it will definitely be a brand new vehicle.

I guess I can consider the Montero GLX AT but I just can't help but wonder that if I do get it, I'll keep on thinking that it would have been great to have gotten the GLS-V instead, with all the added bells and whistles.

Based on most of what has been said here, the Innova G D4D would be the best and most practical choice. To be honest, the pearl white color of this looks very good.

On a related note, however, how is the durability and longevity of the D4D engine? Will it require more maintenance as the years go by as compared to a gas engine? Will the maintenance costs be prohibitive?

Sayang, pwede sana 2nd hand GLS-V... But then if you do get the GLX, you can just modify if you want more punch. It really isn't that hard to get 40 more horses out of that engine.

The D4D engine is quite good, according to feedback from friends and acquaintances who have them. Some of them already have six digits on their odometers and still going strong. Maintenance is definitely more expensive than a gas engine but not enough to be called prohibitive. FC and punch is definitely superior. Just follow the PMS and fuel up with clean diesel, and it will serve you well.

[mqavila]

I think I should add a bit more info on what's going on in my mind regarding this.... on a purely personal level, I really like how the Fortuner looks like - it's very elegant and refined but rugged and imposing at the same time. It exudes a certain class that I don't think an Innova can match.

HOWEVER, the practicality of an Innova does not escape me. For a lower price, I would get better comfort and better fuel efficiency. But again, the Fortuner is a Fortuner, and an Innova is an Innova.

On a side note, fuel efficiency is not as big an issue for me since my office pays for my gas expenses to a certain extent (basically, they calculated the mileage between my home and my office and will cover my gas expenses for that distance on an assumption of 8 km per liter). In other words, as long as I can hit an average of 8 kms per liter, my gas expenses are covered. But if my fuel efficiency goes lower than 8 kms per liter, I will have to shoulder the difference. Also, this gasoline allowance will only be for a period of 5 years (the length of the car plan). After 5 years, I will be the one responsible for the gas for this car (since it means that I'll be entitled to get another car again under the car plan).

So, the biggest issue for me on the Fortuner would be the passenger space and comfort inside (especially the "matagtag" issue).

[Retz]

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bago na suspension ng Fort ngayon. Get the D4-D Fort na lang ung may hoodscoop for the intercooler para mas lalaong pogi.

[mqavila]

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bago na suspension ng Fort ngayon. Get the D4-D Fort na lang ung may hoodscoop for the intercooler para mas lalaong pogi.

If Fort, I can only afford the gas variant. Malayo na masyado sa budget yung diesel variant.

[fourtheboys96]

I think I should add a bit more info on what's going on in my mind regarding this.... on a purely personal level, I really like how the Fortuner looks like - it's very elegant and refined but rugged and imposing at the same time. It exudes a certain class that I don't think an Innova can match.

HOWEVER, the practicality of an Innova does not escape me. For a lower price, I would get better comfort and better fuel efficiency. But again, the Fortuner is a Fortuner, and an Innova is an Innova.

On a side note, fuel efficiency is not as big an issue for me since my office pays for my gas expenses to a certain extent (basically, they calculated the mileage between my home and my office and will cover my gas expenses for that distance on an assumption of 8 km per liter). In other words, as long as I can hit an average of 8 kms per liter, my gas expenses are covered. But if my fuel efficiency goes lower than 8 kms per liter, I will have to shoulder the difference. Also, this gasoline allowance will only be for a period of 5 years (the length of the car plan). After 5 years, I will be the one responsible for the gas for this car (since it means that I'll be entitled to get another car again under the car plan).

So, the biggest issue for me on the Fortuner would be the passenger space and comfort inside (especially the "matagtag" issue).

How about if go on an out of town, long-distance trip? Will your office cover fuel cost for that?

And besides, it is always a nice feeling to achieve high fuel economy and consume less fuel.

[mqavila]

How about if go on an out of town, long-distance trip? Will your office cover fuel cost for that?

And besides, it is always a nice feeling to achieve high fuel economy and consume less fuel.

Nope, the fuel coverage is only for Residence to Office to Residence. But, if fuel efficiency is greater than 8km/l, then whatever fuel savings can be used for personal trips. In other words, I'm allocated a fixed amount of fuel per month based on fuel consumption of 8km/l and distance covered by Residence-Office-Residence. If I'm able to achieve fuel efficiency greater than 8km/l, then I'll have some fuel allowance left over for extra trips.

[Retz]

If Fort, I can only afford the gas variant. Malayo na masyado sa budget yung diesel variant.

un nga lang sir, pero kung gas variant ang budget mo, go for it na. iba pa rin ang naka Fort.

[mqavila]

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bago na suspension ng Fort ngayon. Get the D4-D Fort na lang ung may hoodscoop for the intercooler para mas lalaong pogi.

Is the suspension really better now? I wouldn't want third row passengers throwing up over my leather seats.

[renzo_d10]

Is the suspension really better now? I wouldn't want third row passengers throwing up over my leather seats.

Depends kung mataas tolerance nila sa tagtag, sir.

It's better, yes, pero nandiyan pa rin.

If ever naman may sakay yun 3rd row, magkakaron ng occupants yung first and second. So because of the weight, somehow mareduce pa yun tagtag making it much more tolerable dun sa mga nasa likod.

Wag lang siguro yun tipong isa driver then yun passenger na nagiisa nasa 3rd row :-)

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[nujsimon]

Family car/fuel economy/easier maintenance- Innova
High clearance/better on off-road/Looks (dating)/prestige- fortuner

Ride comfort halos pareho

[boytsiks]

Is the suspension really better now? I wouldn't want third row passengers throwing up over my leather seats.

Comfort IMO is subjective. It think it depends on your current ride. How comfortable is your current ride compared to Fort?

Another thing to be concerned of, is the 3rd row space. The last time we checked this car (couple of months back), para masikip. And we are not even tall.

Suggest you bring your family to a Toyota dealer, let them sit on the third row of both vehicles and ask them what they think

Good luck TS

[ale828]

Fortuner is a better choice. specially if your the one driving the unit, plus the resale value is a little bit better than the Innova.
but for almost the same price as the fortuner G vvti you could get a Montero sport gls non-vgt diesel which will give better fuel consumption and a better ride comfort.

[fireblade]

had both.


if you have money for gas, its the Fortuner. if you want to sacrifice looks and looking at an all around practicality, its the Innova.

[NightRock]

Im a big fan of fort.. though I also drive Innova E... depende nalang sa lakad kung ano dapat gamitin. pero laging tipid talaga sa Gas ng innova..

[niky]

Is the suspension really better now? I wouldn't want third row passengers throwing up over my leather seats.

Better than previous. Not yet at Montero Sport level (which is also still somewhat bumpy for someone coming from a car) but puwede na.

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The Innova, I also find stiff... but newer "Sport" variants come with wider, lower-profile Yokohama A-Drive tires rather than the A-Specs, and those have a much softer ride than the truck-ish old tires.

Note: There are no car tires that will fit the Fort. The stock Dueler HTs suck arse, but if you upgrade to Dueler HLs, that might also increase ride comfort a little more.

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I'd go for the 2.5 rather than the gasser, though.

[mqavila]

I wish I could afford the diesel variant of the Fort but that's an additional P120,000 more. My budget can only reach for the Fort gas variant at the most...

[shadow3616931]

Fort vvti user here for almost 5 yrs now, gas consumption is 7kpl mixed, 7.4 actually on MID, no breakdowns, just follow pms, no worry on dirty fuel, no EGR cleaning, no vibration, very quiet (useful when you go home late wife wouldn't notice you, hehe), very smooth to drive, smoke smells fine not like diesel smells awful especially during warming up smoke might get into your living room coming from garage, and its fast enough.

Is the 8kpl computed in gas? Then if you choose diesel they will compute it in diesel if its so, choose gas.

Re tagtag for me NO its not, maybe I got use to it or because I'm an offroader... hehe

[mqavila]

Is the 8kpl computed in gas? Then if you choose diesel they will compute it in diesel if its so, choose gas.

It's computed at 8km/l whether gas or diesel so diesel wins every time. However, my maintenance allowance remains constant as well, whether gas or diesel so if diesel upkeep is more expensive, it kinda evens out in the end. That's ASSUMING diesel upkeep is greater then gas upkeep. Is it?