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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    Wala na pong LSD ngayon. Open diff na like the rest of the vans/auvs and most suvs in the market today.

    Starex lang ata ang volume seller na naka-LSD dati.
    Sayang. But then again, depending on the design of the LSD, that would be another thing to worry about, maintenance-wise...

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    #62
    salamat talaga ng marami idol !! Idol Otep, you hit the nail right in the head !!
    Now I understand it better.

    ano nga pala ang open-differential 2wd ??

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    #63
    Quote Originally Posted by SlickStock View Post
    ano nga pala ang open-differential 2wd ??
    Open Differential

    Also called a slipping differential, this is the most common differential available on stock cars. An open differential allows for free slippage between the two sides of the axle. When a car is turning, the inner and outer wheels must rotate at different speeds. If they are forced to rotate at the same speed, there will be increased wear on the entire drivetrain and tires as the slippage needs to "rubbed off" somewhere, normally the tires. An open differential allows for some slippage to occur between the two sides of the axle so that the tires do not rub the ground.
    http://www.car-videos.net/whatis/differential.asp

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    #64
    EDIT: haha, naunahan ako! I type too slow!

    An LSD basically makes sure that both wheels are turning at roughly similar speeds.

    For example, you're in mud. One tire is on dry ground, the other in mud.

    With an open differential, as is common in most vans, cars and AUVs, all the power will go to the wheel with less resistance. The wheel in mud will spin hard, while the one on dry ground will stay motionless. In other words, if there's resistance on one side only, all the power goes to the other side.

    With an LSD or limited slip differential, power will go back to the motionless wheel once the other wheel is turning at a certain speed. In other words, it limits the difference in wheel speed. But it doesn't make them turn at exactly the same speed, meaning that use on the road isn't as damaging to an LSD as to a locked differential.

    With a locking differential, power will go to both wheel equally, no matter what. This is good for off-roading, but it will destroy your tires or drivetrain if you use it on the street, as OTEP has explained.

    That's the simple explanation.

    Unless you're in deep mud or on the beach (where you have almost zero traction), you don't really need LSD... or AWD.

    Actually, you can even get stuck in an AWD vehicle in mud if it has no LSD or locking differentials... as in the case of the CRV AWD.
    Last edited by niky; August 24th, 2006 at 05:22 PM.

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    #65
    Even Pajeros and Patrols are open diffs. Unless you have Php50K to buy locking diffs per axle.

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    musta na kaya si slick?anu na decisyon nya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    Even Pajeros and Patrols are open diffs. Unless you have Php50K to buy locking diffs per axle.
    Ehehe... but they have better off-road tires than the CRV.

    Na-e-enganyo na akong mag-"rally" sa usapang ito! Too bad it's not raining.

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    #68
    Wow !! Ok na ok talaga kayo mga idol. I'm learning A LOT from you guys !!

    Idol alwayz_yummy, I'm going for the Starex. At malaki ang naitulong nyo lahat kaya narating ko ang decision na Starex nalang. Sana magkita-kita tayong lahat sometime to more-or-less "formalize" our friendships, hehehe. Konting kwento, konting toma, ayos na, hehehe.

    Additional question lang ha, ano ang magandang dealership ng Starex na dapat ko naman puntahan ??

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    #69
    I dodn't really read the whole thread but basing on the title, the better option for me is the Hi-ace Grandia. I haven't seen the inside but it looks spacious from the outside. Gor the same price, I'd get the Hi-ace, toyota pa.

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    #70
    Toyota?!

    Starex nalang po please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seonadancing View Post
    I dodn't really read the whole thread but basing on the title, the better option for me is the Hi-ace Grandia. I haven't seen the inside but it looks spacious from the outside. Gor the same price, I'd get the Hi-ace, toyota pa.
    Same price? Parang hindi yata.

    And the Hi Ace is not something you'd want to drive personally unless you've always had an ambition to be a Greyhound bus driver. The commuter is large, the Grandia is even larger (esp. in terms of width).

    Starex's two-box design is also safer in crashes.

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Better option than the Starex CRDi ??