Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[emarqz]

Hi guys! me and my friend was on a passionate debate on what's the better type of transmission. He plans to buy a new car one in place of his old A/T car. Personally, having driven a car M/T for 5 yrs now, i encouraged him to get a M/T instead of his usual A/T. I haven't driven A/T cars that much, so i really really can't tell the better one objectively. Based on car racing games naman... manual trannys get the better edge, d ba? and i prefer it too. Pros and Cons..., maintenance cost, acceleration.. etc. Love to hear your insights mga pare. I appreciate it!

[ghosthunter]

Hi guys! me and my friend was on a passionate debate on what's the better type of transmission. He plan's to buy a new car one in place of his old A/T car. Personally, having driven a car M/T for 5 yrs now, i encouraged him to get a M/T instead of his usual A/T. I haven't driven A/T cars that much, so i really really can't tell the better one objectively. Based on car racing games naman... manual trannys get the better edge, d ba? and i prefer it too. Pros and Cons..., maintenance cost, acceleration.. etc. Love to hear your insights mga pare. I appreciate it!

the debate on the which is better has been going on and on....

Is your friend's daily commute to work & home filled with traffic? Does he appreciate the feel of a manual tranny? Does he actually push a car to near it's limits?

Personally, if you drive through traffic often, you'll learn to love having an automatic tranny.

If he loves to push a car's limits and willing to live with the drawback of a manual tranny in traffic, then go for the manual tranny.

Racing and the daily driven commute aren't the same. I love to race cars but the reality of the traffic in metro manila made me love having an automatic tranny.

[niky]

There's no definitive "better". I'm a staunch defender of manual transmissions, but then, I'll be the first to admit that driving one as a daily commuter can be a right pain in the knees.

[mbeige]

Another subjective thread. You won't get a good answer because both transmission merit their own advantages and disadvantages.

If you want to be more specific, your question can be answered. But as it stands, it all depends on the end user (driver) and his preference.

[MSR3]

Right now i am using automatic tranny... mejo malakas sa gas especially sa traffic but ofcourse it is easier for me to drive no hussle to my knees. Pero nami-miss ko yung manual especially pag long driving going to the province, nami-miss ko yung malakas na arangkada.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Another subjective thread. You won't get a good answer because both transmission merit their own advantages and disadvantages.

If you want to be more specific, your question can be answered. But as it stands, it all depends on the end user (driver) and his preference.

Agreed.

If I'm doing a lot of city driving or even lazy cross-country/cruise control travel like here, I favor an A/T. If I'm charging up a mountain with lots of twisty roads and climbs/dips, I prefer a M/T which allows a good bit of engine-braking and more precise gear use.

On high climb/dip city driving like in San Francisco CA, I prefer a compromise like the Shiftronic of our car.

[alwayz_yummy]

madaming threads na about this dito sa tsikot,a...search mo, karamihan nasa car talk,e...alam ko madami na ding nag-kasamaan ng loob at di nagkaunawaan dahil sa debateng ito

parang debate ito ng kung alin nauna: itlog o ibon?

matic liteace ko, manual ang maxima ko... so user preference and capabilities lang yan magfafall...

ako, kung tipiran hanap ko at smoothness, CVT, otherwise manual tranny.

but now i truely prefer the multi-personality CVT of the city/jazz->

1.CVT(regular driving),
2.sporty CVT(sporty regular driving),
3.7-speed mode(auto mode 7-speed shifting for regular driving),
4.sporty 7-speed mode(auto 7-speed shifting at high revs),
5.7-speed manual mode (well, time you want to be in manual mode/aggresive highway drving)

parang 5-in on ung car na yun

and anytime i'll take a nissan murano CVT....

[XTO]

both has pros and cons to consider. a/t's comfort can be attained in exchange of
higher fuel consumption, brakes, and battery among those.

m/t's burden during heavy traffic really is annoying but the versatility esp
during emrgency acceleration is unquestionably superior. the last thing
is you can't fall asleep with m/t.

for some of the comparisons this could help.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...ht=manual+auto

[B2Bomber]

uh una...

Based on car racing games naman... manual trannys get the better edge, d ba?

hehe, di ata masyado'ng realistic yung reference.
anyway, for the past 19yrs, been driving mainly M/Ts, with occassional A/Ts. my take on the topic: is basically the same with the previous posts, it all depends on the driver's needs, so to speak. personally, I've come to appreciate the A/Ts for city driving riddled with traffic jams.

[alwayz_yummy]

and consider mo din budget mo for maintenace-->in due time kung di mo inalagaan ang matic, mas madugo sa gastos yan, compared sa manual.

pag nag-sliding->
a/t overhaul costs 30,000-100,000 w/o gauranteed na titino, surplus naman cost from 7,500(ung sa 2c-te ng 4wd liteace ko)-30,000(sa JDM urvan 4wd/hilux-surf 4wd),plus 2500 for ATF and 3-5000 labour, pero sure na titino ang takbo. ang m/t naman 10,000-15,000 lang(palit clutch,release bearing, at pressure plate, worst case is nagkaroon ng tama ung flywheel.

pero kung inalagaan, ang matic/cvt mas matipid sa maintenace than your matic->change oil lang(a/t)(2,500-3000 ung 8-10lt of ATF+drain time lang) than clutch-release-pressure plate replacement(m/t)

[emarqz]

Thanks guys! ang dami kong natutunan dito. Interestingly, andami na palang threads with all the in-depth personal experiences. I want to thank you though for the insights. parang gusto kong subukan mg A/t tuloy. hehe.

[alwayz_yummy]

its a must na dapat alam mo pano din mag-drive ng a/t.. pero kung coming from a manual, mas madali ang cvt/at..di mo naman makakalimutang mag-M/T kahit matagal ka nang nag-aA/T. lalo na kung emergency situation kung anung avail na sasakyan ready mo i-drive.

i know kasi i have both diba(city->liteace 4-a/t, outof town->maxima na 5-m/t)

[JohnM]

I can still drive both.

Kung trafik AT pa rin. I tried driving an MT around Metro Manila and I always get sick at the end of the day. Maintenance-wise gastos ko pa lang sa AT ay change ATF and strainer (around 1000 parts + DIY labor). I plan to change my ATF at least every year since di naman ganun ka-mahal.

Pero nothing beats a manual on the smooth hiways and mountain passes (with the occasional jaywalking carabao) of Northern Mindanao

[alwayz_yummy]

yan lang naman talaga maintenance ng a/t->ATF change...kahit ung sa pan lan lan(2-3liters lang yon.)+linis filter ok na yan..

[Jun aka Pekto]

I suppose you can stick with either M/T or A/T and become a pro in either one. It's transitioning between the two that might pose a minor problem.

Me for example...... I have no problems transitioning from A/T to M/T. The higher rpm noise often alerts me it's time to press the clutch and shift.

But, going from M/T to A/T...... I have a tendency to look for a clutch. Guess which pedal comes closest to a clutch in an A/T. It takes a few hours of alert driving before I adjust completely. Most of the time, I'm fine. But, when I'm distracted (like with a nagging wife), it's scary when I do mistake the brake pedal for a clutch. Thank goodness for seatbelts.

[alwayz_yummy]

ang downside lang ng jazz/city cvt is from 7-speed manual mode, di ka pwede bumalik to 7-speed auto w/o disabling the 7speed-mode(CVT-mode) 1st then push mo ulit para 7-speed auto mode (w/o pressing the +/-).... 1.5vtec performers yan,e....

[alwayz_yummy]

nakakalito ang paddles ng civic FD-2.0s-l...left-(-) right-(+) panu kung sa turns? unlike sa jazz/city, sa sterring ung +/- and in both sides pa...kahit likuan makaka up/down shift ka...

[pup2]

I suppose you can stick with either M/T or A/T and become a pro in either one. It's transitioning between the two that might pose a minor problem.

Me for example...... I have no problems transitioning from A/T to M/T. The higher rpm noise often alerts me it's time to press the clutch and shift.

But, going from M/T to A/T...... I have a tendency to look for a clutch. Guess which pedal comes closest to a clutch in an A/T. It takes a few hours of alert driving before I adjust completely. Most of the time, I'm fine. But, when I'm distracted (like with a nagging wife), it's scary when I do mistake the brake pedal for a clutch. Thank goodness for seatbelts.

Hehe. This happened to me once! Sa ibang country pa! Buti walang katao tao!

Since then, I've taught myself to just use my right foot with an auto tranny and just put my left foot in the foot rest, para malayo.

[alwayz_yummy]

dapat i merge na to sa kabilang thread ni "pyeh"

[stormrider]

I don't like M/T because its very tiring to drive one. Not to mention I need my hand free for more useful tasks (like drinking beverage, eating candy or whatever, tissue, fondling my girl, etc.).

I'd consider an M/T only if it were a sports car or somesuch.