Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[GTi]

I have not had the pleasure of driving a modern CRDi MT. Puro AT na kasi ang binibili. [emoji28]

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[timming_gear]

Well, since mechanically exactly the same lang naman ang 2.5 na Innova at Fortuner, sa sasakyan lang niya talaga ang problema. Factory defect kaya?

I have driven 2 MT cars to Baguio. Both are considered "makupad" cars. There's the Revo diesel and also an Isuzu IPV. Makupad sa highway pero hinding hindi ako ipinahiya sa akyatan. Never even had to turn off A/C. So really, I'd say a vehicle with 80hp or so can already confidently go up to Baguio via Kennon Road, still with aircon on, at a brisk pace. [emoji38]

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Yes nkakapag taka lang Bakit naging pare parehas sila ng naging experience sa manual na fortuner iniisip ko Na lang din nag kataon driver Error pero By that time pabili ako ng fortuner imbis na M/T kukuhanin ko bigla automatic ang nailabas ko dahil sa mga kwento nila [emoji23][emoji39]


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[GTi]

Yes nkakapag taka lang Bakit naging pare parehas sila ng naging experience sa manual na fortuner iniisip ko Na lang din nag kataon driver Error pero By that time pabili ako ng fortuner imbis na M/T kukuhanin ko bigla automatic ang nailabas ko dahil sa mga kwento nila [emoji23][emoji39]


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From what I hear, the gearing of the 2KD MT also isn't very good for high speeds with much higher rpm at 100 than the 4AT despite the additional gear. Though I suppose acceleration and fuel efficiency will still go to the manual.

Medyo nasanay na kami sa fuel consumption. Both the Granvia (3.0 4AT) and Carnival (2.9 5AT) get 4+km/L in city driving. [emoji24] I remember the Revo does 7+km/L even in the worst traffic conditions. 8-9 even, if traffic lets up, and that is pure city driving.

In terms of ease of maintenance, I say the AT has already surpassed the MT. In terms of performance, for the most part almost there na with the AT getting more gears and better manumatic function. In terms of fuel consumption... Kelan kaya? [emoji23]

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[Alexxmarcuzz]

pero nkakapag taka iisa sila ng scenario. Yung isang fortuner na actual ko literal na walang power. As in kahit pagalitin yung rev sabay bitaw ng clutch walang power umaatras lang sa ahunan kaya nilalagyan pa ng Kalso.

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Sir baka hindi naman po gamay sa baguio? If ever naman po, merong naman mga video sa youtube na pang uphill which is heel toe or using the handbrake. Very helpful po yan.


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[timming_gear]

Mataas nga Rpm M/T 2.1k Rpm * 100kph lalo na ang innova 2.5k rpm * 100kph But for Me battle and Tested na ang Kd Series Engine ng Toyota kaya ok lang kahit malakas sa Diesel. [emoji108][emoji28]

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[montro]

If Baguio hirap na, what for kung sagada pa na makitid pa ang daan uphill.

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[GTi]

Pero yung mga drivers ng Hiace na rental vans kala mo mga Takumi Fujiwara sa Initial D! 2KD + MT din mga yun ah, most likely with twice as many passengers as a Fortuner or Innova can seat plus baggage. They go to Sagada in droves!

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[suysuy]

Pero yung mga drivers ng Hiace na rental vans kala mo mga Takumi Fujiwara sa Initial D! 2KD + MT din mga yun ah, most likely with twice as many passengers as a Fortuner or Innova can seat plus baggage. They go to Sagada in droves!

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Nakasakay ako sa ganyang vans going to sagada. Magaling ang driver. Hindi takot mag rev. Kaya always spooled ang turbo.

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[playplugg]

MT, AT, CVT, DCT..

As long as na properly driven, hindi abusive sa transmission at properly maintained..


Hindi issue yan, lalo kung uphill/downhill lalo kung merong load factor..

Sa MT, basta hindi clutch driver or 2nd gear ang starting...

Sa AT/CVT/DCT.. basta once na naka-stop, from D, ilagay sa N or P..

tatagal ang transmission...

[essjei55]

Pero yung mga drivers ng Hiace na rental vans kala mo mga Takumi Fujiwara sa Initial D! 2KD + MT din mga yun ah, most likely with twice as many passengers as a Fortuner or Innova can seat plus baggage. They go to Sagada in droves!

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Familiarity sa road is a big difference pag dating sa elevated areas. You have the confidence to go all out. Wag lang bibigay preno kundi kaluluwa labas nila. [emoji23]

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[timming_gear]

Kung papansinin nyo yung mga hiace na rental sa Baguio - Sagada yung iba may aftermarket na na Intercooler yung mga iba nka Full Exhaust pero iiwanan sila sa nv350 [emoji28]

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[Alexxmarcuzz]

Kung papansinin nyo yung mga hiace na rental sa Baguio - Sagada yung iba may aftermarket na na Intercooler yung mga iba nka Full Exhaust pero iiwanan sila sa nv350 [emoji28]

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Nakadipende na lang po sa pag maneho mo ng sasakyan yan sir hehe pwedeng pwede po habulin ng Hiace yung nv350. Hnd rin natin masabi ano po rason hehe. Halos pare’pareho lang po mga sasakyan.


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[GTi]

Ang mga latest Hiace 1KD na ang makina kaya kayang kaya na talaga habulin ang NV350 dahil halos patas na ang hp.

Lately nakikita ko nakakaremap ang Speedlab ng Hiace 3.0 at nakakadagdag ng 60-70whp! Yung iba pa dun Commuter MT! How I would love to try out one of those! [emoji23]

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[StockEngine]

Ang mga latest Hiace 1KD na ang makina kaya kayang kaya na talaga habulin ang NV350 dahil halos patas na ang hp.

Lately nakikita ko nakakaremap ang Speedlab ng Hiace 3.0 at nakakadagdag ng 60-70whp! Yung iba pa dun Commuter MT! How I would love to try out one of those! [emoji23]

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The local hiace are detuned imo for maximum reliability.

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[jabbronx]

Bago umahon ng steep road - 2nd or 1st gear na agad, 2k-3k RPM. Bwelo na. Timplahin kung san kaya ng makina.

Wag bibitinin ang makina, yung ibang mga baguhan naka 3rd paahon tas todo apak sa gas pedal Mali yun titirik/stall talaga makina. Low gear high RPM kapag akyatan.

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[ice15]

[dr. d]

i think the bottom line is, don't buy MT if:
1. you don't know how to use it; and
2. you don't want the inconvenience.

[raymarkgael]

he,he syempre Manual , automatic is for the boys, women and old ... Manual for the men
kahit sa Sim Racing pagtatawanan ka kapag gamit mo Automatic

[Ketib]

Well, am not racing. Hehehe!

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[Egan101]

he,he syempre Manual , automatic is for the boys, women and old ... Manual for the men
kahit sa Sim Racing pagtatawanan ka kapag gamit mo Automatic

Except for a few, most afforable MT cars are not that quick. It depends entirely on the car you're driving. Some of the best driving cars available locally come only with an AT tranny.