Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[Woof]

Buti na lang nauso na auto brake hold. Now, I rarely shift to N even for 60+ secs. stoplights.

True, but a light tap to the gas pedal and off you go.... I still like the old handbrake. It was.. reassuring.

[Woof]

For AT, when stopping for long periods of time, do you:

1 set to neutral and handbrake
2 or leave it at D and handbrake

Common answer from other folks is (1) but there's a youtube video from Engineering Explained saying that the shifting action from D-N causes wear on a more expensive part to fix than the wear when leaving it at D. (Well this is my understanding from the vid)

I guess we should also be specific with respect to the type of AT: conventional (planetary-gear) or CVT (belt-driven). For me:

Conventional AT - #1
CVT - #2 (leave at D and brake hold)

[jayjay098]

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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[dr. d]

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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it probably depends on how the owner mistreated it.
i used to drive a 12 year old CVT, with 100K km on the odometer. no issues.
i currently drive a 7 year old 4AT with 90K km on the odometer, also no issues.

[dct]

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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Old school thinking

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[GTi]

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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21 year old Toyota 4AT with 176tkms, no issues.
11 year old Hyundai 5AT with 84tkms, no issues.
8 year old Kia 5AT with 71tkms, no issues.

With these three, I have done nothing other than change ATF. Though I have changed transmission supports for the first two, if you will be counting that. But for that transmission itself, no problem at all.

Drove a Revo diesel with a manual from 2011-2017. IIRC, had one clutch replacement in 2011 and another in 2017. Those weren't cheap.

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[StockEngine]

21 year old Toyota 4AT with 176tkms, no issues.
11 year old Hyundai 5AT with 84tkms, no issues.
8 year old Kia 5AT with 71tkms, no issues.

With these three, I have done nothing other than change ATF. Though I have changed transmission supports for the first two, if you will be counting that. But for that transmission itself, no problem at all.

Drove a Revo diesel with a manual from 2011-2017. IIRC, had one clutch replacement in 2011 and another in 2017. Those weren't cheap.

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so many failures because of owner negligence. hindi nila alam ang proper transmission oil change interval. 2years is a good practice imo

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[peppanda01]

Hi guys! me and my friend was on a passionate debate on what's the better type of transmission. He plans to buy a new car one in place of his old A/T car. Personally, having driven a car M/T for 5 yrs now, i encouraged him to get a M/T instead of his usual A/T. I haven't driven A/T cars that much, so i really really can't tell the better one objectively. Based on car racing games naman... manual trannys get the better edge, d ba? and i prefer it too. Pros and Cons..., maintenance cost, acceleration.. etc. Love to hear your insights mga pare. I appreciate it!

M/T kng experienced driver ka.

[StockEngine]

M/T kng experienced driver ka.

experienced traffic driver. saket na ng paa ko sa clutch. mas maganda siguro pag automatic. brakes lng pag sa traffic.

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[yapoy86]

experienced traffic driver. saket na ng paa ko sa clutch. mas maganda siguro pag automatic. brakes lng pag sa traffic.

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Ako parehas lang basta trapik ngawet.. kasi pag AT babad naman paa mo sa brake lalo na pag crawling traffic.. pag manual babad naman paa sa clutch..

Mas nakakangawet sa crawling traffic ang gas engine kasi need mo pa mag timpla sa gas.. unlike pag diesel bibitaw ka lang ng konting clutch uusad na

[StockEngine]

Ako parehas lang basta trapik ngawet.. kasi pag AT babad naman paa mo sa brake lalo na pag crawling traffic.. pag manual babad naman paa sa clutch..

Mas nakakangawet sa crawling traffic ang gas engine kasi need mo pa mag timpla sa gas.. unlike pag diesel bibitaw ka lang ng konting clutch uusad na

nakapag palit ka na ng clutch?. brakes hindi naman aabot 8k.

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[Vodka]

electric car. 1-speed tranny. no clutch. 1-pedal driving i.e. press to accelerate, let go to engage variable regenerative braking, you almost don't have to touch the brake pedal

i can't wait to buy an electric car

[StockEngine]

electric car. 1-speed tranny. no clutch. 1-pedal driving i.e. press to accelerate, let go to engage variable regenerative braking, you almost don't have to touch the brake pedal

i can't wait to buy an electric car

pag dumating na solidstate batteries ng samsux and maybe lg from the koreans. . or maybe mauuna toyota and pana solid states.. not sure [emoji848]

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[Noel Salisipan]

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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Marami pa rin may ganyang paniniwala, but my experience tells me differently.

[Lin Dan]

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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These people are still living under a rock haha!

[Wh1stl3r]

I had to have an M/T clutch relined at 80Tkms. The same model car with an A/T was still running great at 200T+kms. Both had tranny fluid changed regularly. Both also had similar route and usage.

[suysuy]

It depends. If you were born and raised in a family na MT ang mga sasakyan, high chance you will also choose MT as a better transmission.

I grew up with a family who loves AT, and all of our cars are AT. And usually AT lang ang TOTL variants. We always buy top of the line, hence all AT.

I still know how to drive a manual. But I really dont like it. I drive faster in an AT.

There are good AT drivers and bad MT drivers and vice versa

Nasa driver talaga and it really depends. May sinasabi din sila na mas controlled daw ang byahe pag manual. Mas in control ka raw. Being an AT driver for 12 years, di ako maka relate. Im always in full control of my car naman and I dont find it hard to control my speed using an AT kahit hataw mode.

Here are some of my highspeed experiences.

Civic 2009 AT, Santa Fe 2013 2.2R VGT CRDI 2013, Sorento 2009 2.5 VGT CRDI

[D3nb3r]

May sinasabi din sila na mas controlled daw ang byahe pag manual. Mas in control ka raw. Being an AT driver for 12 years, di ako maka relate. Im always in full control of my car naman and I dont find it hard to control my speed using an AT kahit hataw mode.

I think what some MT guys mean by saying controlled is that when shifting gears the driver decides kung kelan, anong gear and at what rpm siya mag shift. Sa AT the car will do that for you.
I love driving MT sa long drive, di ka aantukin. But then pag dating sa downtown at may traffic na, dyan mo na hahanapin ang convenience ng AT.

[BlancNoir]

A/T for everyday use.

M/T on weekends.

[gearhead000]

I guess we should also be specific with respect to the type of AT: conventional (planetary-gear) or CVT (belt-driven). For me:

Conventional AT - #1
CVT - #2 (leave at D and brake hold)

Baliktad naman sa akin. Yung sa 4AT I can just hold the brake if less than 60s, though madalas din na pag more than 30s neutral na, same as with the CVT. My thinking is that yung 4AT is fluid based while yung sa CVT eh pulley and belt driven so comparatively mas may friction siya.

May I ask. Merong mga nagsasabi na after 5 years daw for A/T magiging sirain daw ito at magsisimulang magbigay ng sakit ng ulo compare sa M/T. how true?

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My 4AT is 15 years already running at 140,000kms. Wala namang problema sa transmission kahit once lang yata ako nakapagpalit ng transmission fluid. So basically yung fluid pa lang naging gastos ko sa transmission, whereas kung sa MT in that period maaring nakailang palit ka na ng clutch disk/plate depende how much of a clutch driver you are.