Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[leolop]

For several months, I had to drive 3-5 hours a day ferrying the kids to and from school. With this extreme situation, I was thankful I had an A/T vehicle to cope with it.

[JayPi.23]

MT for long drive and AT for city driving

[Kestana]

We used to have only manual vehicles, particularly because my parents love to drive and swear by how much more fuel efficient they are. RAV4, Altis, i10, Corolla, Civic, etc. But as we got older and traffic got even more worse we eventually decided on automatics. All our cars are automatic now. Sure, it may use more fuel and reduces driver involvement (aka the fun). But when your left leg is tired from playing with the clutch for hours in traffic and you encounter a slope, an automatic is what you'd wish for. We don't mind the added fuel consumption because it's convenient. Also, automatics today are very fuel efficient if you have good driving habits (i.e. not accelerating too quickly and then braking too hard, shifting to neutral during an incline). Besides, if one worries too much the financial implication of gas, should they be really driving a car?

I do still have fun with our AT vehicles though since they have a manual mode (i.e. I can downshift from 6th to 5th or 4th gear on the highway), albeit no clutch. If I'd get an MT car again, it would probably be a light sports coupe. I had a lot of fun with my i10 because it's so light and the engine was preppy. Was very easy to drive for extended periods even if it was a manual.

[bluexi]

First car ko is manual but i now drive an automatic. Grabe na kasi ang traffic kahit dito sa probinsya. Basta hinay-hinay lang sa accelerator at well maintained ang sasakyan, medyo matipid pa rin sa gas. My current drive is 23 yrs old and average fuel consumption ranges from 9 to 10km/L.

OT:
If I want a manual, I'd just swing a leg (on my motorcycle) hehehe. I can rev it up to redline without feeling guilty dahil 40km/L consumption nito. It's not a bigbike pero ilang kembot lang sa kurbada ok na ako.

[Battlestar]

Driving an AT for more than a decade and now I want to switch to manual to have fun. Is the MT still advisable for a 20km (balikan) daily drive? Route is usually Ortigas Pasig to Cainta/Taytay.

[pengmalups]

If provincial drive, I would choose stick shift, if 99% of the time will be city driving, then I'll go automatic. Metro Manila traffic is just ridiculous.

[lakay77]

dito sa metro dapat talaga AT kasi sa traffik

[simpsonseclaire]

I heard AT is now cheaper to maintain vs MT given the technology.
they say almost maintenance free na ang AT. ATF lng kelangan bantayan.

[dr. d]

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I heard AT is now cheaper to maintain vs MT given the technology.
they say almost maintenance free na ang AT. ATF lng kelangan bantayan.

perhaps that is what the auto salespeople want us to think... but...
i think MT is still cheaper to maintain. and ATF is not exactly dirt-cheap... in my opinion, it is hideously expensive!
AT does require a more religious ATF replacement schedule, lest it turn and bite us...
only once in my whole life did i have to replace my MT oil.. when i drove at the height of ondoy so's my family can go home.. the trans oil had turned latte... i had it replaced, and until today, i have not experienced any sort of transmission problem from it.

[ishimaro]

AT for city drive - para hindi pagod pag traffic.
MT for long drive - nakaka antok ang AT sa long drive as per my experience. also, fuel efficient din compared AT.

[andutnyh12]

Good day tsikoters,

I need your help po. I'm a newbie po when it comes to driving and first time ko po kukuha ng car. I did a little research po and read reviews online and now I'm confused kung anong car ang kukunin ko. Btw, I'm into automatic transmission subcompact cars and ito po mga pinagpipilian ko:

1. Ford Fiesta Hatchback
2. Chevrolet Spark
3. Hyundai i10
4. Hyundai EON
5. Toyota Wigo

Sirain po ba daw ang mga ito (es. fiesta)? Alin po ang matipid sa gas? Alin po ang kakayanin na tumakbo from Baguio to Manila (uphill and highway)? Alin po ang maganda for both highway and city drive?

Dahil sa newbie po ako, natatakot pa po ako gumamit ng malalaking cars tulad ng Fortuner kaya subcompact cars po pinili ko.

Your expert answers and/or recommendations would be so much appreciated

[jut703]

Good day tsikoters,

I need your help po. I'm a newbie po when it comes to driving and first time ko po kukuha ng car. I did a little research po and read reviews online and now I'm confused kung anong car ang kukunin ko. Btw, I'm into automatic transmission subcompact cars and ito po mga pinagpipilian ko:

1. Ford Fiesta Hatchback
2. Chevrolet Spark
3. Hyundai i10
4. Hyundai EON
5. Toyota Wigo

Sirain po ba daw ang mga ito (es. fiesta)? Alin po ang matipid sa gas? Alin po ang kakayanin na tumakbo from Baguio to Manila (uphill and highway)? Alin po ang maganda for both highway and city drive?

Dahil sa newbie po ako, natatakot pa po ako gumamit ng malalaking cars tulad ng Fortuner kaya subcompact cars po pinili ko.

Your expert answers and/or recommendations would be so much appreciated

If it's true that you're shying away from the Fortuner just because of size and not because of price, then get an HR-V or ASX or XV instead.

From your criteria though, I'd suggest the Mirage GLS. If that's too expensive, then the Wigo G. Both are great starter cars for people on a budget.

[dct]

^first of all walang automatic ang eon

Ang fiesta naman, di ko masasabing sirain. But its jerky. Para bang nalilito kung saan nya ilalagay ang gear pag stop and go traffic

Your other choices are fine. But try to add mirage or g4 dahil cvt ang transmission, matipid sa gas. Or vios (since nasa choice mo ang fiesta)

Any modern car today can go up to baguio

[midnytwarrior]

Ang fiesta naman, di ko masasabing sirain. But its jerky. Para bang nalilito kung saan nya ilalagay ang gear pag stop and go traffic

Palagay ko po sir, malamang dahil sa pagiging dual-clutch ng A/T ng fiesta kaya jerky? Meron po kasi ako nabasa noon (naghahanap ng difference between CVT and DCT) at may mga site na nagbanggit na yun ang reklamo nila sa DCT na pag stop ang go traffic or slow moving eh parang nalilito kung saan ilalagay ang gear.

Not sure if yun models o variants ng Fiesta dyan sa atin eh DCT. Pero possible.

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Ang fiesta naman, di ko masasabing sirain. But its jerky. Para bang nalilito kung saan nya ilalagay ang gear pag stop and go traffic

Palagay ko po sir, malamang dahil sa pagiging dual-clutch ng A/T ng fiesta kaya jerky? Meron po kasi ako nabasa noon (naghahanap ng difference between CVT and DCT) at may mga site na nagbanggit na yun ang reklamo nila sa DCT na pag stop ang go traffic or slow moving eh parang nalilito kung saan ilalagay ang gear.

Not sure if yun models o variants ng Fiesta dyan sa atin eh DCT. Pero possible.

[dct]

Palagay ko po sir, malamang dahil sa pagiging dual-clutch ng A/T ng fiesta kaya jerky? Meron po kasi ako nabasa noon (naghahanap ng difference between CVT and DCT) at may mga site na nagbanggit na yun ang reklamo nila sa DCT na pag stop ang go traffic or slow moving eh parang nalilito kung saan ilalagay ang gear.

Not sure if yun models o variants ng Fiesta dyan sa atin eh DCT. Pero possible.

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Palagay ko po sir, malamang dahil sa pagiging dual-clutch ng A/T ng fiesta kaya jerky? Meron po kasi ako nabasa noon (naghahanap ng difference between CVT and DCT) at may mga site na nagbanggit na yun ang reklamo nila sa DCT na pag stop ang go traffic or slow moving eh parang nalilito kung saan ilalagay ang gear.

Not sure if yun models o variants ng Fiesta dyan sa atin eh DCT. Pero possible.

Yup. Exactly. Dahil dual clutch.

[SkyFlakes88]

Considering that it's your first car i'd recommend the mirage/G4 or wigo. Cheaper to maintain. Very good start for newbie car owners.

[andutnyh12]

*dct and *midnytwarrior
Dual-clutch transmission pala ang fiesta, hmmm. Kaya pala most reviews na nakita ko is about sa pagiging jerky ng Fiesta, yun pala is dahil sa dual-clutch ito. I have researched more about the answers you both had gave me and most are saying na kailangang paabutin till 1000 miles para matutunan daw ng fiesta ang driving style mo. Thank you for the info

*jut703 and *SkyFlakes88
The mitsubishi mirage and toyota wigo are both interesting cars. Aside from it's cheap to maintain, what can you say po about it's performance.

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*dct and *midnytwarrior
Dual-clutch transmission pala ang fiesta, hmmm. Kaya pala most reviews na nakita ko is about sa pagiging jerky ng Fiesta, yun pala is dahil sa dual-clutch ito. I have researched more about the answers you both had gave me and most are saying na kailangang paabutin till 1000 miles para matutunan daw ng fiesta ang driving style mo. Thank you for the info

*jut703 and *SkyFlakes88
The mitsubishi mirage and toyota wigo are both interesting cars. Aside from it's cheap to maintain, what can you say po about it's performance.

[dct]

^mas lamang ang performance ng mirage kaysa wigo. Dahil 1.2 vs 1.0 ang engine. Kung gusto mo pa mas malakas andyan ang brio or vios. Parehong 1.3. But again, any new car can reach 100 or 120 kph and climb baguio. Even eon na 0.8 lang ang makina

[andutnyh12]

^mas lamang ang performance ng mirage kaysa wigo. Dahil 1.2 vs 1.0 ang engine. Kung gusto mo pa mas malakas andyan ang brio or vios. Parehong 1.3. But again, any new car can reach 100 or 120 kph and climb baguio. Even eon na 0.8 lang ang makina

Thank you so much. It will be a Mirage then By the way po, sa lahat ng colors ng mirage, what po yung pinaka astig for you?

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^mas lamang ang performance ng mirage kaysa wigo. Dahil 1.2 vs 1.0 ang engine. Kung gusto mo pa mas malakas andyan ang brio or vios. Parehong 1.3. But again, any new car can reach 100 or 120 kph and climb baguio. Even eon na 0.8 lang ang makina

Thank you so much. It will be a Mirage then By the way po, sa lahat ng colors ng mirage, what po yung pinaka astig for you?

[SkyFlakes88]

*andutnyh12

Sir i have driven the Mirage Cvt. It's Fc is really good. About 12 to 14kms/ltr in city driving. I just notice the front suspension lacks in soaking up potholes and the a/c is neither cold or hot during noon time traffic in Mla. There are 5 of us in the car. Other than that It's a good A to B car. The Wigo sir i haven't had the chance to drive one.[emoji4]