4x2 MUX or 4x2 Everest

[bolog]

Sows, buti nga nag-share ako ng info ngaun, i dont normally do that eh kasi lang wala kao ginagawa ngaun.

This thread is very interesting coz eto lang talaga 2 PPv na ito ang dapat pagpilian Talaga. Its both traditional looking suv, so it will age well.

Eh
Sa Fortuner - walang reverse cam, at this age di ka pa maka-reverse ng walang cAmera, eh sa phone nga pwede ka umatras ngaun ng hindi nag turn gamit mo lang selfie cam mo

Sa Montero -hindi pa din malaman kung ano ba talaga likod Auv, MPv o SuV

And sa TBZ - sinuyod ko na banawe, talagang bihira Intsik mag-stock ng chevy parts eh kasi nga talo na sila sa warehousing cost, hindi pa mabilis mag-move ang inventory.

Mas excited pa ako sa Nissan Terra, kasi proven na na low cost maintenance ang navarra.

Eto lang 3 dapat pagpilian talaga

Agree clang 2 kc un parng bang for the bucks. Pick-up sana pipiliin ko kc enticing un price cutoff due to TRAIN law pero reality hit me na SUV ang maintenance mo and yet 5 lng ang capacity. Sayang un bed kung wala ka nmn masyado paggamitan kaya nitry ko pa istretch un budget for SUV.

[StockEngine]

Thanks Bro for sharing your thoughts. At least di biased kc you highlighted both the good and the bad for each. I believe sa Fuel Consumption nararamdaman un configuration ng MUX sa makina nila kc understressed cya. 2.5 cya pero it has lower HP than everest na lower displacement at 2.2. Eto din daw according to ISUZU is their way to prolong engine life. Try reading B10 certification ng ISUZU engine for MUX...

stress? nanaman? di na uso yan sa new crdi technology

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[Egan101]

stress? nanaman? di na uso yan sa new crdi technology

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Newer engines are getting lower displacements yet they produce more output.


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[yebo]

Minimum na PMS yan sir, 9.1k full syn Change oil, filter, brakes cleaning, battery, fluids and underchassis check and adjustment ng hand brake lang.

Nagiging mahal PMS dahil mahal Air filter, fuel filter and cabin filter pag sa casa mo kukunin. Air filter nasa 3.5k sa casa... So palo agad 12k un. Okay naman kay SA since tropa na rin.

For air, fuel and cabin, sa labas na ko bumili parts and DIY kabit ko na lang. Once pa lang ako nagpapalit air, fuel galing banawe kaya mura. Around 20k mileage pa lang naman, air filter hangin hangin lang. Hehe.. Cabin filter every 3 months or so, allergic eh, gusto ko fresh.. Haha..

For me, normal lang cost ng regular PMS nito. Especially if out of warranty na si TS at sa mga gas stations or sa motec, servitek, rapide, etc.. mo na ipapagawa. Nothing too fancy or expensive.

according from both ford bgc and ford commonwealth di daw pwede mag skip ng air filter change. kahit 3.5k km lang tinakbo ng everest ko they were insisting on changing the air filter or else void ang warranty. di pwede sourced outside casa kahit oem pa.

my friend who has a 2.2 eve also reported a 10k km pms cost of P14.5k. that was when the air filter was only P3.5k. P5k na ngayon ang air filter ng eve at the casa, even though you can get it at ebay for p1.6k.

my last oil change, oil filter and general checks ( all those blah blah blah they list down at the casa and charge you for it) only cost P5800 at Motech.


anyway, btt.
the only thing i don't like about the muX is the blue power thing. the only time i will consider buying a "blue" vehicle of any brand is when it becomes a regular item sold in gas stations nationwide.

[maxpedition]

Oh. Mas naniniwala pako dito eh kaysa yung hindi nagbabago yung presyo ng pms pagdating ng 10k, 20k, 30k and so on kms tapos hindi ganun kataas yung price eh we all know na notorious ang ford pagdating sa ganyan.

Baka naman me iba dun sa pms ni janemar sya na nagprovide o selected lang pinagawa nya kaya mas mura pms nya

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[chronicle]

^
May adblue ba ang bluepower?

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[StockEngine]

^
May adblue ba ang bluepower?

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wala ang 1.9 even in europe na euro6

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[chronicle]

wala ang 1.9 even in europe na euro6

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Thanks. Once the adblue thing starts to trickle down in our country. Isuzu might need to change the name of their engine. Hehehe

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[minicarph]

^^Eh bat hindi mo sinama santa fe or sorento sa mga choices mo kahit hindi sila ppv?

dapat kasi i-boycott natin ang Hyundai at Kia at never na natin i-include sa choices ng mid SUV race kasi ubod ng yabang at mahal ng cars nila.

oo andun na ako si Schreyer ang nag-dedesign nyan kaya may pagka-European styling ang dating, andun na ako kasi global vehicle yan, refined and only passes stringent quality standards ng first world countries.

eh hinde dapat tayo mag-adjust. ang banyaga nagbebenta dapat mag-adjust kung gusto nila makabenta dito satin diba. Korean lang yan eh.

parang bingsu, bebenta nila ng 200 / order. eh halo-halo lang natin yan, sa chowking P60 lang halo-halo. eh di langaw ang bingsu korean dessert na yan

ganun din dapat Hyundai / Kia, langawin dapat para magising sila sa katotohan. kitams, nag-fold na Columbian, binenbenta na sa Ayala. at least Ayala kaya mag marketing analysis sa taste ng Pinoy.

so hayun, hangga't hinde sila mag-aadjust. wag pansinin yan dalawa car manufacturers na yan

[JJB]

Watsup Tsikoters?

Need your expert advise. Especially those who have experienced driving either of the 2.

I'm planning to get a base 4x2 SUV na manual kasi un lng kaya ng budget at 1.3M (max budget). I checked, asked and researched online and it appears ang pinakamura na Pick-up based SUV at the moment is MUX (1.37) and Everest (1.399). I checked with their respective SA's and puede daw cla magbigay ng cash discount so pasok sa budget. Note that their SRP is pre-TRAIN law kasi old stocks pa nmn un units. I'm planning to buy pick-up din kaso parang sayang un bed for daily city driving. Gusto ko kasi un go anywhere. I currently have hatch ngaun as my daily driver and un ang limitation ng tsikot ko especially pag out of town drives.

What do you guys think about this 2? Which would you recommend based on my needs below?

- Fuel efficiency
- Reliability and long term maintenance cost. which has lower PMS cost. I'm planning to have this for around 10 years so serviceability outside casa is also
essential (i.e. Parts and labor)
- Ride Comfort
- Looks

These 4 lng nmn main criteria ko since I believe power is sufficient for these 2 kasi nasa Pinas lng nmn tau. I'm all for practicality kaya I'm leaning towards MUX although admittedly mas maraming features and Everest. Although di cya masyado deal breaker for me kc nice have's lng nmn cla. For looks pareho lng cla for me although parang mas pogi si everest.

* Note may palabas na daw na 1.9 MUX next month according to my SA so need ko ata hintaying dn un. Im not sure sa pricing though.

Sa kwento mo, looks like mu-x fits you. Mas lalo na 10years mo plan gamitin, mas mura parts ng isuzu.


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[Janemar]

according from both ford bgc and ford commonwealth di daw pwede mag skip ng air filter change. kahit 3.5k km lang tinakbo ng everest ko they were insisting on changing the air filter or else void ang warranty. di pwede sourced outside casa kahit oem pa.

my friend who has a 2.2 eve also reported a 10k km pms cost of P14.5k. that was when the air filter was only P3.5k. P5k na ngayon ang air filter ng eve at the casa, even though you can get it at ebay for p1.6k.

my last oil change, oil filter and general checks ( all those blah blah blah they list down at the casa and charge you for it) only cost P5800 at Motech.


anyway, btt.
the only thing i don't like about the muX is the blue power thing. the only time i will consider buying a "blue" vehicle of any brand is when it becomes a regular item sold in gas stations nationwide.

Ford malolos and marilao ako pa PMS sir. Okay naman SA and techs dun. Try mo dun sir next time, kaso I see nilabas mo na pala ang pms mo. So useless din, na skip mo na tatak sa booklet.

[StockEngine]

walang issue bro. hindi lng efficient yun 6at vs 6mt. gets?

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heres the proof...

https://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-...e_featured_big

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[Janemar]

Ford malolos and marilao ako pa PMS sir. Okay naman SA and techs dun. Try mo dun sir next time, kaso I see nilabas mo na pala ang pms mo. So useless din, na skip mo na tatak sa booklet.

Typical 30k/18month pms will force you to replace air filter and fuel filter nga naman pero, not in my case. ) Note ang taas lang talaga labor cost sa casa at 4.4k. Sa labas siguro, brake cleaning + oil change mga nasa 700-800 lang labor mahal na yun.

Kaunting tiis pa pag out of warranty na sa labas na rin ako. Haha

[JJB]

Typical 30k/18month pms will force you to replace air filter and fuel filter nga naman pero, not in my case. ) Note ang taas lang talaga labor cost sa casa at 4.4k. Sa labas siguro, brake cleaning + oil change mga nasa 700-800 lang labor mahal na yun.

Kaunting tiis pa pag out of warranty na sa labas na rin ako. Haha

Galing at mura ang Shell helix dyan sa casa mo. Usually mahal yan even in other casas. Not bad na rin ang oil filter at 700php.
Sana lahat ng Ford casa ganyan

[StockEngine]

Galing at mura ang Shell helix dyan sa casa mo. Usually mahal yan even in other casas. Not bad na rin ang oil filter at 700php.
Sana lahat ng Ford casa ganyan

good catch... 383 for some a5b5s[emoji44]

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[Janemar]

Galing at mura ang Shell helix dyan sa casa mo. Usually mahal yan even in other casas. Not bad na rin ang oil filter at 700php.
Sana lahat ng Ford casa ganyan

Mas mura sa banawe sir orig oil filter nasa 450 lang. Ung iba sa lazada or online nakuha nasa 300 lang oil filter(2.2/3.2 eve / ranger) pero di ford tatak pero pede na rin daw at match naman if mineral oil lang gagamitin mo, every 5k pms.

Napaghahalata na tuloy na kuripot ako... LOL

[JJB]

Mas mura sa banawe sir orig oil filter nasa 450 lang. Ung iba sa lazada or online nakuha nasa 300 lang oil filter(2.2/3.2 eve / ranger) pero di ford tatak pero pede na rin daw at match naman if mineral oil lang gagamitin mo, every 5k pms.

Napaghahalata na tuloy na kuripot ako... LOL

Dont worry pareho tayo, gusto lang natin sulit.
But between orig oil filter na 450 and non-orig filter na 300, i'll get the 450 since engine life ang usapan.
But if that's just a cabin filter, i'd get the cheaper replacement one in a heartbeat since aircon filter lang naman.

[GTcervan]

Typical 30k/18month pms will force you to replace air filter and fuel filter nga naman pero, not in my case. ) Note ang taas lang talaga labor cost sa casa at 4.4k. Sa labas siguro, brake cleaning + oil change mga nasa 700-800 lang labor mahal na yun.

Kaunting tiis pa pag out of warranty na sa labas na rin ako. Haha

Ambaba ahh pero luging lugi siguro casa mo diyan kung yan lang binayaran mo para sa 30k pms. 😂

[StockEngine]

Ambaba ahh pero luging lugi siguro casa mo diyan kung yan lang binayaran mo para sa 30k pms. [emoji23]

baket sila luge? the invoice is clear naman.

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[alrorskyz]

Ambaba ahh pero luging lugi siguro casa mo diyan kung yan lang binayaran mo para sa 30k pms. [emoji23]

Lugi? Sa labor palang 4.4 na, it will only took them max 3 hrs of work with 2 technicians with mostly doing visual inspections

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