2019 Best 4x4 Pickup Truck

[thearsenal1205]

Otoh, even ford's duratorq 3.2 diesel with 200ps malakas pero bitin naman yung powerband. Kaya halos wala din yung abundance ng figures niya dun. Ideal yung may balance sa figures and powerband imho.

Not just the 3.2L. Even the 2.2L powered Everests and Rangers with this engine. I observed when I hear the engine revs so high even at very slow speeds on a 2.2L-powered rangers and everest, especially when mated to an automatic transmission. Makupad ba talaga ang 2.2L duratorq?

Yung 2.5 4jk1 nga ng unang labas na mu-x na akala ko modern crosswind engine asa 136hp lang. Mahina on-paper pero in reality, maganda daw ang hatak. Hindi bitin.

Much more with the RZ4E. pag kaliit ng displacement na 1.9L lang siya pero nakakahabol sa mga navara, montero, 2.8L fortuner, hilux, innova, strada. It's also mahina on paper specs by torque rating. Impressive naman yung performance ng makina.

[Egan101]

Not just the 3.2L. Even the 2.2L powered Everests and Rangers with this engine. I observed when I hear the engine revs so high even at very slow speeds on a 2.2L-powered rangers and everest, especially when mated to an automatic transmission. Makupad ba talaga ang 2.2L duratorq?


Much more with the RZ4E. pag kaliit ng displacement na 1.9L lang siya pero nakakahabol sa mga navara, montero, 2.8L fortuner, hilux, innova, strada. It's also mahina on paper specs by torque rating. Impressive naman yung performance ng makina.

Makupad is relative. If you ask me, even the 3.2L Rangers are not as responsive on a sprint. Test driven the Ranger 3.2L Wildtrak before and even if I was flooring the accelerator, the thing moves like a brick. Most of them PPVs or pickups with the usual 4-banger turbo diesels couldn’t do 10 seconds on a 0-100kmh sprint.

If you want a quick and fast pickup truck, get an F150 3.5L V6 Ecoboost. That behemoth can do 0-100kmh in 6 seconds.


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[GTcervan]

Not just the 3.2L. Even the 2.2L powered Everests and Rangers with this engine. I observed when I hear the engine revs so high even at very slow speeds on a 2.2L-powered rangers and everest, especially when mated to an automatic transmission. Makupad ba talaga ang 2.2L duratorq?

Alam ko yung pre-updated engine, yung merong 148hp/375nm ramdam daw ang turbo lag in low rpms pero yung 2016 and up models na updated na, hindi na gano.

Much more with the RZ4E. pag kaliit ng displacement na 1.9L lang siya pero nakakahabol sa mga navara, montero, 2.8L fortuner, hilux, innova, strada. It's also mahina on paper specs by torque rating. Impressive naman yung performance ng makina.

Okay ang engine na yan pero di lang ako fan sa application nito para sa midsize truck o suv. Kaso iba na talaga ang trending ngayon, yung smaller engines with powerful turbos kaya ayan na nga magiging huling version ng internal combustion engines bago maging all electric na sa future hehehe.

[GTcervan]

Makupad is relative. If you ask me, even the 3.2L Rangers are not as responsive on a sprint. Test driven the Ranger 3.2L Wildtrak before and even if I was flooring the accelerator, the thing moves like a brick. Most of them PPVs or pickups with the usual 4-banger turbo diesels couldn’t do 10 seconds on a 0-100kmh sprint.

If you want a quick and fast pickup truck, get an F150 3.5L V6 Ecoboost. That behemoth can do 0-100kmh in 6 seconds.


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Wala namang nagsasabi na they are faster than compact cars with powerful turbos like the rs turbo civic or wrx sti eh at iba naman talaga ang acceleration feel ng turbo diesel. Mga may turbo lag mga yan pero matataas din ang torque kasi yung mga bodies nito ay mabibigat so offset lang din yun sa kanila and on top of that, they aren't built for speed anyway. Also i'm sure many buyers don't consider speed when buying them pero kung yun ang priority nila, they are better off buying performance cars instead. Now going btt, ang mahalaga kayang kaya nila humatak kahit punuan pa at hindi bibitinin sa mga overtake o akyatan. Although mas common na talaga ang mga diesels with at least 400nm of torque ngayon unlike noon na iilan lang at maraming natutuwa dun.

[hardwang]

Wala namang nagsasabi na they are faster than compact cars with powerful turbos like the rs turbo civic or wrx sti eh at iba naman talaga ang acceleration feel ng turbo diesel. Mga may turbo lag mga yan pero matataas din ang torque kasi yung mga bodies nito ay mabibigat so offset lang din yun sa kanila and on top of that, they aren't built for speed anyway. Also i'm sure many buyers don't consider speed when buying them pero kung yun ang priority nila, they are better off buying performance cars instead. Now going btt, ang mahalaga kayang kaya nila humatak kahit punuan pa at hindi bibitinin sa mga overtake o akyatan. Although mas common na talaga ang mga diesels with at least 400nm of torque ngayon unlike noon na iilan lang at maraming natutuwa dun.

In my experience with a ranger 2.2L with a manual transmission, when you press the pedal deep, it will dig you deep in the seat. However the moment you look at the speedometer, the illusion shatters.

[Lakwatsero]

Now going btt, ang mahalaga kayang kaya nila humatak kahit punuan pa at hindi bibitinin sa mga overtake o akyatan. Although mas common na talaga ang mga diesels with at least 400nm of torque ngayon unlike noon na iilan lang at maraming natutuwa dun.

Lamang Isuzu sa kargahan kasi mid model naka 3.0L na rin, unlike sa Hilux and Ranger na sa TOTL lang makukuha yung powerful engine. Navara naman, naka coil spring kaya wala pang half ton karga mo, dapa agad.

[GTcervan]

In my experience with a ranger 2.2L with a manual transmission, when you press the pedal deep, it will dig you deep in the seat. However the moment you look at the speedometer, the illusion shatters.

Like i said, they're not built for speed naman talaga.

[GTcervan]

Lamang Isuzu sa kargahan kasi mid model naka 3.0L na rin, unlike sa Hilux and Ranger na sa TOTL lang makukuha yung powerful engine. Navara naman, naka coil spring kaya wala pang half ton karga mo, dapa agad.

Yes pero hindi lang yun. Tulad ng binanggit ko nakaraan, maganda ang powerband ng mga diesel engines nila. Kaya kahit mukang mahina sila on-paper dahil may kababaan ang figures kumpara sa iba, hindi mo mararamdamang underpowered dahil dun.

[Wh1stl3r]

Lamang Isuzu sa kargahan kasi mid model naka 3.0L na rin, unlike sa Hilux and Ranger na sa TOTL lang makukuha yung powerful engine. Navara naman, naka coil spring kaya wala pang half ton karga mo, dapa agad.

Dual rate na yung springs ng latest model NP300. Iba na rin yung rear suspension geometry. Not sure lang how much better it is pag kinargahan na.

Yes pero hindi lang yun. Tulad ng binanggit ko nakaraan, maganda ang powerband ng mga diesel engines nila. Kaya kahit mukang mahina sila on-paper dahil may kababaan ang figures kumpara sa iba, hindi mo mararamdamang underpowered dahil dun.

Yes, wider ang torque band nung mga large displacement Dmax vs the Strada and NP300. Kaya hindi ramdam masydo kahit kargado. Not sure about the 1.9L. Lower displacement engines can get around this by using sequential turbos and more gears. Yung NP300 naka sequential turbo na yung downsized 2.3L engine in other markets. Same hp/torque output vs the single turbo 2.5L but over a much wider RPM range. Kaya mas malakas ang hatak.

For pickups mabilis na yung under 10s 0-100 kph.
221 Isuzu D-Max does -1km/h in under 1 seconds (video) | PerformanceDrive

New Dmax is one of the fastest but still slow compared to other mainstream cars.

[Egan101]

Di nga built for speed pero yung ibang pickup drivers, kung makaharurot akala mo may-ari ng daan.

In the US, there was a study that most speeders on the road are pickup truck drivers. Some of the full-size pickups are a bit quick though. Most cars couldn’t hold up to the sprint of the F150 V6 Ecoboost. 6 seconds on 0-100kmh (even a few ticks less on 0-60mph) is a feat for a truck over 2 tons! What more the Raptor and TRX?


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[Wh1stl3r]

The Patrol is another quick behemoth. 0-100 in 6.6s.

[Egan101]

The Patrol is another quick behemoth. 0-100 in 6.6s.

The Patrol Royale (Armada) with 5.6L V8 engine? That is quick truck for its size. I had a Nissan Armada as a rental when we were in SanFo back in 2019.


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[Wh1stl3r]

The Patrol Royale (Armada) with 5.6L V8 engine? That is quick truck for its size. I had a Nissan Armada as a rental when we were in SanFo back in 2019.


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Yup, the Y62 Patrol. Quick and corners well for a behemoth. It has HBMC, a damping system similar to Toyota's KDSS.

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[thearsenal1205]

Alam ko yung pre-updated engine, yung merong 148hp/375nm ramdam daw ang turbo lag in low rpms pero yung 2016 and up models na updated na, hindi na gano.


Okay ang engine na yan pero di lang ako fan sa application nito para sa midsize truck o suv. Kaso iba na talaga ang trending ngayon, yung smaller engines with powerful turbos kaya ayan na nga magiging huling version ng internal combustion engines bago maging all electric na sa future hehehe.

Sa tingin ko di pa ata siya VNT/VGT yung mga 2012-2015 ranger na 2.2L.

Ako rin. di rin ako big fanatic ng mga small displacement diesels na nasa truck/suv. talagang usong uso tulad ng ranger raptor na 2.0L lang. Pero sana maging hybrid diesel muna bago maging full electric ang mga PPVs sa future

[thearsenal1205]

In my experience with a ranger 2.2L with a manual transmission, when you press the pedal deep, it will dig you deep in the seat. However the moment you look at the speedometer, the illusion shatters.

or maybe makupad lang with an automatic. Ibang iba kasi ang power delivery ng mga manual tranny.

[Egan101]

The Ranger Raptor may have just a 2.0L displacement but the output is more than most diesel engines bigger than it is. 210hp/500Nm is even more than some 2.5L or 2.8L or 3.0L turbo diesels except maybe the Europeans.

Manual or MT, if the engine is not that powerful, I doubt it will cut a significant amount of time with its 0-100kmh sprint. If acceleration is of big importance for you in a vehicle, opt for a turbo gas.


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[GTcervan]

Di nga built for speed pero yung ibang pickup drivers, kung makaharurot akala mo may-ari ng daan.

In the US, there was a study that most speeders on the road are pickup truck drivers. Some of the full-size pickups are a bit quick though. Most cars couldn’t hold up to the sprint of the F150 V6 Ecoboost. 6 seconds on 0-100kmh (even a few ticks less on 0-60mph) is a feat for a truck over 2 tons! What more the Raptor and TRX?


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Mga di kasi nag-aral o di naturuan ng mabuti mga yan kung pano magmaneho. Pero ano pa nga bang aasahan mo sa mga karamihang drivers na galing sa third world na bansa gaya ng pinas.

Regarding full size pickups, yup grabe sila sa power pero kasi dun naman sa USA magaganda at malalapad ang roads kaya pwede humataw. Tapos may mga expressways pa sila na umaabot hanggang libong kms ang haba. Mas mura din ang petrol fuel kaya grabe talaga dun. Sana ganun din rito pero hindi eh. Ang mabilis na acceleration halos wala ding silbe kung ipit ka naman madalas sa traffic.

[Egan101]

Mga di kasi nag-aral o di naturuan ng mabuti mga yan kung pano magmaneho. Pero ano pa nga bang aasahan mo sa mga drivers na galing sa third world na bansa gaya ng pinas.

Regarding full size pickups, yup grabe sila sa power pero kasi dun naman sa USA magaganda at malalapad ang roads kaya pwede humataw. Tapos may mga expressways pa sila na umaabot hanggang libong kms ang haba. Kaya grabe talaga dun. Sana ganun din rito pero hindi eh. Ang acceleration halos wala ding silbe kung ipit ka naman sa traffic.

Puwede humataw sa mga maluwag na expressways natin. Hanggang kaya ng kotse mo at dibdib mo, puwede sa SCTEX/TPLEX.

Sa US, malapad nga interstates pero strict yung speed enforcement. Only once lang ako pumalo lampas 100mph, doon sa Indiana turnpike way back in 2005. Most of the time, between 75mph to 85mph (120-140 kmh) lang max speed ko dun, parang ganun lang din takbo ko sa SLEX.

Eh yung SCTEX to Subic, madali lang yung 140-150kmh na cruising speed, papalo pa ng 180-200kmh kung minsan.


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[GTcervan]

Yes, wider ang torque band nung mga large displacement Dmax vs the Strada and NP300. Kaya hindi ramdam masydo kahit kargado. Not sure about the 1.9L. Lower displacement engines can get around this by using sequential turbos and more gears. Yung NP300 naka sequential turbo na yung downsized 2.3L engine in other markets. Same hp/torque output vs the single turbo 2.5L but over a much wider RPM range. Kaya mas malakas ang hatak.

For pickups mabilis na yung under 10s 0-100 kph.
221 Isuzu D-Max does -1km/h in under 1 seconds (video) | PerformanceDrive

New Dmax is one of the fastest but still slow compared to other mainstream cars.

Yes, nasa characteristic na daw yun ng mga newer isuzu engines. May naaalala kasi akong user rito dati na diehard isuzu fanatic, name niya hndmaxsiado/d_mac na ang pinaka-basehan lang niya sa mga pickups o diesel ppvs ay sa powerband. Piling ko may pagka-ewan siya dati kasi todo lumait sa strada, montero at navara dahil yung 4d56 at yd25 na makina daw ay merong mga peaky/narrow powerbands tapos ayaw na ayaw niya yung mga designs na hindi boxy. Pero tagal na nun. Bsta di niya daw trip yung lower cc + high output engines. May mga pa graphs graphs pang pinost tapos pati transmission speeds at this rpm meron din haha.

[GTcervan]

Puwede humataw sa mga maluwag na expressways natin. Hanggang kaya ng kotse mo at dibdib mo, puwede sa SCTEX/TPLEX.

Sa US, malapad nga interstates pero strict yung speed enforcement. Only once lang ako pumalo lampas 100mph, doon sa Indiana turnpike way back in 2005. Most of the time, between 75mph to 85mph (120-140 kmh) lang max speed ko dun, parang ganun lang din takbo ko sa SLEX.

Eh yung SCTEX to Subic, madali lang yung 140-150kmh na cruising speed, papalo pa ng 180-200kmh kung minsan.


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Masarap yun kaso may mga nanghuhuli eh. Pag natyempuhang above 120+ kph ka na, posibleng aabangan ka na sa mga exits at dun mayayare. Muntikan na mahuli erpat ko sa isang exit dati dala van, sa hacienda luisita ata un kasi alam niyang may nag aabang na. 130kph sa sctex papuntang baguio pero buti nalang nalusutan niya kasi kung hindi, komplikado pa yun.