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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    maintenance ng automatic. change atf lng every 24-36mo.

    so many dex6 and similar available nowadays.
    Apologies sir but what is dex6?

    the current 2nd hand model car that I'm looking to buy is Hyundai Elantra 2013.

    di pa po adept on car components and maintenance.

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by softbank21 View Post
    Apologies sir but what is dex6?

    the current 2nd hand model car that I'm looking to buy is Hyundai Elantra 2013.

    di pa po adept on car components and maintenance.
    transmission fluid.. its for majority of 6spd transmissions.

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by softbank21 View Post
    I see. mostly kase ng kausap ko laging preference is manual, aside from mas ramdam mo daw pagdadrive, mura din daw ang maintenance cost compared to automatic. I'm totally inlove with Elantra when i saw the ad for a 2nd hand car for elantra in RED with only 33k odo(good thing?)

    hard to decide on car preference vs newer car on a cheap sale.

    totally budget constrained.
    Yes, manual is still the best choice if performance and fuel efficiency are top priorities. This is especially true with an old school, or very small vehicle where power is limited. For instance I cannot imagine driving our old Revo diesel, slow as it is, with an automatic transmission.

    It is not necessarily true that AT maintenance is more expensive. In my experience with our Revo, the clutch had to be replaced after 5 years or around 50tkms of mostly pure city driving. It wasn't cheap. On the other hand, if you take good care of an AT, as mentioned, fluid changes are probably all you will be doing for it for the entire duration of your car's stay with you. At least for all our current vehicles, that is all that we have ever done. Some of them haven't even had fluid changes yet!

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    #44
    I also would like to purchase my first car under 200k and I'm currently eyeing the Civic EK 96-00 and the ES.
    Most recently I found a well maintained EK 96 VTi with a seller's asking price of 195k. I also found 2001 vtec3 civic that's all stock and looks fairly maintained for the same price.
    Both cars are M/T.

    I would just like to know if the ES is much harder (also more expensive) to maintain than the EK?

    I have a neighbor that's into buy and selling and I showed him the listing of the 195k EK and said that it was too expensive. Even if I said that it looked really well maintained. It also has a lot upgrades as well.

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    #45
    I would love to suggest you Starex GRX further choice is yours

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Hadowken View Post
    I also would like to purchase my first car under 200k and I'm currently eyeing the Civic EK 96-00 and the ES.
    Most recently I found a well maintained EK 96 VTi with a seller's asking price of 195k. I also found 2001 vtec3 civic that's all stock and looks fairly maintained for the same price.
    Both cars are M/T.

    I would just like to know if the ES is much harder (also more expensive) to maintain than the EK?

    I have a neighbor that's into buy and selling and I showed him the listing of the 195k EK and said that it was too expensive. Even if I said that it looked really well maintained. It also has a lot upgrades as well.
    The EK and ES is fairly easy to maintain and has an abundant of parts. Most common issue I encounter on the EK is the aircon and suspension parts. The ES never had an issue aside from the usual maintenance, change engine mounts and tie rods.

    The EK at 195k is a bit expensive imho.. if you can stretch your budget, I would recommend to get the Civic FD, If you look hard enough and knows how to haggle, you might be able get one at around 250-300k..

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by carscout View Post
    The EK and ES is fairly easy to maintain and has an abundant of parts. Most common issue I encounter on the EK is the aircon and suspension parts. The ES never had an issue aside from the usual maintenance, change engine mounts and tie rods.

    The EK at 195k is a bit expensive imho.. if you can stretch your budget, I would recommend to get the Civic FD, If you look hard enough and knows how to haggle, you might be able get one at around 250-300k..
    +1 on the Civic FD. Its engine is the same as the current Civic and it still looks good despite a chassis being 13 years old.

    Paying nearly 200k on a 23-year-old car is a bit too much. At least, it's not 2.4M which another dude is asking for his EK SiR with Mugen stuff.

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    pastor melchizidek,

    Ok nagets ko na bakit kailangan mo yang madami mauupuan. Laking sunday school pala ako kaya narecall ko agad yang "the order of melchizedek"

    Try mo magtest drive sa casa para mafeel mo lang difference. Try mo avanza, adventure and crosswind. Tapos doon ka na pili sa second-hand market.
    Very nice suggestion bro. Salamat

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    #49
    May nag o offer sakin 2 choises,
    1. Innova 2007 D4D 310K
    2. Adventure 2002 4d56 270K

    Questions
    1. Ano mas matipid imaintain?
    2. Ano mas matibay na makina?


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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Melchizedek View Post
    May nag o offer sakin 2 choises,
    1. Innova 2007 D4D 310K
    2. Adventure 2002 4d56 270K

    Questions
    1. Ano mas matipid imaintain?
    2. Ano mas matibay na makina?


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    Mas matipid imaintain ang adventure pero mas makakatipid ka sa fuel consumption sa Innova at mas comfortable pa.

    Sa tibay pateho lang matibay yan at pareho marami piyesa. Mas madali labg irepair aircon ng advie kasi hindi need baklasin buong dashboard whereas sa innova baklas buong dashboard kapag may repair or linis na gagawin.

    Overall mas isuggest ko Innova sir. Tsaka mas bago pa din.

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Mas matipid imaintain ang adventure pero mas makakatipid ka sa fuel consumption sa Innova at mas comfortable pa.

    Sa tibay pateho lang matibay yan at pareho marami piyesa. Mas madali labg irepair aircon ng advie kasi hindi need baklasin buong dashboard whereas sa innova baklas buong dashboard kapag may repair or linis na gagawin.

    Overall mas isuggest ko Innova sir. Tsaka mas bago pa din.

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    Sabagay mas bago, dami ko kasi nababasa about d4d

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Melchizedek View Post
    May nag o offer sakin 2 choises,
    1. Innova 2007 D4D 310K
    2. Adventure 2002 4d56 270K

    Questions
    1. Ano mas matipid imaintain?
    2. Ano mas matibay na makina?


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    That is a big age gap and a small price gap.

    Most definitely I would pick the Innova given the opportunity.

    310k is rather cheap for a diesel Innova. Bite only if sure of its condition.

    Of course the Adventure is an old school diesel. Weaker and less refined engine which is more prone to smoke belching if not maintained well. But then it would also be cheaper to maintain.

    I have seen both engines rack up extremely high mileages. Both are very widely used in the PUV industry, and even as workhorse vehicles of company fleets. The Adventure has very little electronics so there are lesser things that can go wrong. But then by this time, the Innova's 2KD has proven that modern CRDi's can be efficient and long-lasting workhorses as well.

    If it helps, in the 90s to early 2000s, our church had a service fleet of L300s (same engine as Adventure). Now they are replaced with Hilux FX and Hiace units (same engine as Innova). In between, they've tried the Nissan Urvan, Hyundai H100 and Isuzu IPV. But upon encountering the Toyota, they have never looked back. [emoji23]

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    That is a big age gap and a small price gap.

    Most definitely I would pick the Innova given the opportunity.

    310k is rather cheap for a diesel Innova. Bite only if sure of its condition.

    Of course the Adventure is an old school diesel. Weaker and less refined engine which is more prone to smoke belching if not maintained well. But then it would also be cheaper to maintain.

    I have seen both engines rack up extremely high mileages. Both are very widely used in the PUV industry, and even as workhorse vehicles of company fleets. The Adventure has very little electronics so there are lesser things that can go wrong. But then by this time, the Innova's 2KD has proven that modern CRDi's can be efficient and long-lasting workhorses as well.

    If it helps, in the 90s to early 2000s, our church had a service fleet of L300s (same engine as Adventure). Now they are replaced with Hilux FX and Hiace units (same engine as Innova). In between, they've tried the Nissan Urvan, Hyundai H100 and Isuzu IPV. But upon encountering the Toyota, they have never looked back. [emoji23]

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Melchizedek View Post
    Noted po bro, thanks for enlightenment. God bless you

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    Mga sirs, sorry, pa hijack nitong thread, 1st timer din sa car
    ano pede niyong ma suggest na car 200k-230k ang budget

    TYIA

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by kokothecommuter View Post
    Mga sirs, sorry, pa hijack nitong thread, 1st timer din sa car
    ano pede niyong ma suggest na car 200k-230k ang budget

    TYIA
    maybe a 2003 altis?
    or a late 90s sentra or corolla gli... that is, if you can find one in good condition...

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    maraming spare parts online sa fb for hyundai nissan and mitsu.. never buy from the dealerships.

    as for maintenance.. motech on fb.

    engine oil change interval ..every 3-6months

    other fluid intervals like atf, brake fluid, and coolant, every 24mo,

    if possible get the owners manual from the seller

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by remesees10 View Post
    Thank you sa mga sumagot, young Eon kaya mga sirs.. ok ba yun? nakikita ko kasi sa fb na meron mga 5 yrs pababa ung 200-230 ko eh. ano sa tingin nio? tyia

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    #58
    Im buying my second car - Honda Civic 1.8E. I have two options, Civic 2018 1.8E at a discount, 1,110,000 or the 2019 1.8E na kakalabas lang at very small discount 1,180,000.

    Help please, i would really appreciate your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manila.rising View Post
    Im buying my second car - Honda Civic 1.8E. I have two options, Civic 2018 1.8E at a discount, 1,110,000 or the 2019 1.8E na kakalabas lang at very small discount 1,180,000.

    Help please, i would really appreciate your thoughts.
    if you can afford the newer model car, get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    if you can afford the newer model car, get it.
    the volume knob is worth the upgrade hahahhaa.


    does the 2019 civic have the volume knob ba?

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