Pajero or MU-X?

[LuckyMan]

Mga gurus / Sir,

Just want to know your thought and advises. Will be buying a family car early next year if God permit (2015). 7 seater is a must as my aging CUV can only accommodate 5 passenger. Hindi na kami kasiya ng family ko. We intend to keep the car for more than a decade. I’m torn between the Pajero diesel (due to a big discount being offered by casa) and the newly launched MU-X (4X2 AT)(Cheaper by > 1M) I know they are on different level pero minsan lang kasi bibili kaya gusto ko todo na at pangmatagalan na gamit. Nagustuhan ko naman MU-X kasi cheaper siya at ok na rin mga features niya. Yung price difference nila ay pwede nang ibili ng kapirasong lote sa subdivision for an additional investment.

1. Cheaper to maintain
2. Durability and reliability
3. Practicality

Need your inputs mga sir. Thank you in advance sa inyong mga payo.

[yebo]

Nasagot mo na yung tanong mo. I think you are a practical person so buy the mux and that subdivision lot. And since next year pa naman, wait a little longer baka sakali ilabas yung mux 3.0.

[Walter]

Isuzu MU-X since you just said you can invest the savings. After 10 years income from that investment can buy you a luxury car.

[machinepistol]

MUX po, sir. It will bring you to your destination in substantially the same comfort and convenience.

[Newcomer123]

Payo ko pangontra. Pajero na agad. Wag ka magtyaga sa isang AUV replacement. Kung kaya mo ang next level, just go and get it!

[LuckyMan]

Thank you po sa mga payo nyo. kung pagbabatayan po ang tinitibok ng puso ko, Pajero. Nalilito lang po kasi ako mga Sir kasi tama si Sir Yebo, practikal nga po akong tao kaya sa isip ko MU-X. pero pag uwi ko po try ko sakyan both car para malaman talaga alin ang mas sulit. Sana nga dumating yung 3.0 ng MU-X next year. Salamat pong muli.

[Syuryuken]

investment + car = taong nag-iisip ng tama. Sa Pajero sikat ka nga butas naman ang bulsa mo wala ka pang investment totally negative.

[junerski]

Ayaw mo Land Cruiser? Since taga Bulacan ka malapit lang ang San Fernando Pampanga may BIG DISCOUNT din daw dun ang Toyota for a Land Cruiser... lalabas na masmura pa sa choices mo.

Kidding aside, one of your considerations is it can seat 7pax... Im 5'10 and I can say mas ok ang third row seating ng MU-X as compared sa Pajero... yung sa Pajero parang jump seat lang talaga and not designed to accommodate 2 more people.. At least yung sa MU-X relatively pwede naman and tolerable for a guy like me for say a 1-hour trip... kung 2-nth hour kelangan marami stop over para magstretch.hehe

[Leo_Arz]

Sa akin sir bilin mo na yung gusto mo para na satisfied ka mahirap later on magsisi ka....pero Kung low budget wag magpilit go for the 2nd option.


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[leodawesome]

Got 'enough' dough, Pajero no contest. And by 'enough', it should be just spare cash. Kung sakto lang, might as well get what you can afford. Malay mo di para sayo ngayon yung Pajero.

[IMm29]

Test drive both and see which one calls out to you. May budget ka naman for either one, so on an emotional level, you might be swayed toward the Pajero. Ok lang naman.

Some find the MU-X to be too bare. Some might not want the status symbol that the Pajero might stand for. Some things to consider as well. It's not all that appears on the spec sheet, kaya bisita na po sa showroom.

[victorevolution]

pajero sounds good but it's an outgoing model

pajero is reliable vehicle but... parts remains scarce, since only a few bought this vehicle.


just to add- the chosen few- it may be good thing or bad- for me it's good

traverse beats the explorer(i own both) - less problems- i meant never gave me any headache, never had any problems with the former unlike the explorer...

[Ry_Tower]

The Pajero is already long in the tooth. Tsaka kapag nag-test drive ka for sure pajero pa din bibilhin mo kahit na mas madami toys nang MU-X.

Kaya get the Trailblazer 4x4 instead para bawas ang sisi mo na hindi pajero binili mo. May savings ka pa din na pang-invest, mas maganda pa sa MUX nabili mo!

[DieselInfitiny]

Good day, fellow tsikoteers!

First of all, I'd like to apologize to sir Luckyman, for posting below and hi-jacking your thread. If my post is somehow, inappropriate on this category, I apologize again and kindly move this to the correct segment or please redirect me. But since the TB has been mentioned here, earlier, I am doing a point segue re my case, while sharing it and seeking some helpful insight.

Tsikot forum/s, like this, have helped a lot in providing the appropriate feedback, in any form, to prospective buyers like me. My intent is just to capture a direct and healthy or objective share/input (esp from car enthusiasts here) from fellow tsikoteers… as I am sure there are still others out there who are on the same boat as I am. Thanks Tsikot!

Going back, I am still up to the point of deciding between the Mux (LS-A) and TB (LT), and would need to decide really soon.

And I know the bottom line question is always thrown back… what are you looking for a vehicle and what do you need? I have read several comparison write-ups between these 2 vehicles (ie Topgear, James Deakin site, etc…), so no need to send me those, please. (Btw, those were definitely great write-ups!)

However, am looking more to make my decision based on my elements with my current state (below). Really appreciate your shared opinion, as this will really mean a lot in my final selection. I have detailed na lang some few info below, as factors for consideration.

Thank you and more power fellow tsikoteers!


*Given:
-Family of 5 (2 adults +3 kids (agers 9,7,4) + 2 household helps)
-City Driving; out of town long drive rarely happens
-Most of the time will be only used by me; family will be on it during weekends
-Use of vehicle: looking at 7 years (min) to 10 years (max)
-Paid reservation for Mux and nakalista since September for Mux but baka sa dec pa raw; sa TB anytime the unit is available
-1.5M budget (fits both)
-Dumadaan sa baha (mostly shin area to seldom knee deep level), pag talaga malakas ang ulan; but normally, wala.


*Straight-forward comparison notes I have gathered so far post my test drive of both vehicles, accompanied by a male friend and my wife. And of course, speaking with SA’s of each vehicle manufacturer. Again, these are just my observation/s, and I may be wrong about some as they are all based on personal hands-on and “I’ve read thread” captures. So please respect my info below… you can even correct them if you have some reference or solid info to steer onto the accurate info. I’d be appreciative of it.

MUX: (LS-A 4x2 AT)
- Very Comfy ride even sa mga lubak na pinagdaanan namen sa test drive; handled the potholes and heavy dirt road very well at speed of 20 to 60kms.
- Nice Modern features on accessories which will be ideal for a family set-up like what I have (auto climate, screen LCD entertainment system,leather steering, power seats, etc..)
- It’s an “ISUZU”; kapitbahay ko may Isuzu pick-up since 1993 ata, hanggang ngayon yon pa ren ginagamit araw-araw for their hauling of motor parts business (note: warm-up nya di man lang umaabot 30sec everyday, tas hinahatak na direcho na sa arangkada)
- Based on feedback here, FC at 10 to 12kms mixed city driving
- I felt overtaking had some effort on the engine (kung tao pa, shouting level na), pero was still able to do so but with some extended calculation (part of it siguro is still getting to know pa the engine); didn’t happen to me when I did this with TB; also I was just on Drive mode, not on manual tiptronic.
- Since these are new vehicles at Thailand made pa… re Parts and Accessories: some maybe expensive with isuzu and some maybe expensive with chevy?
- I placed some pressure on the exterior doors and fenders with my hand; para syang may tendency lumulubog immediately
- Mas bago ang Mux
- Compubox nasa engine bay
- 10k on 1st PMS at 1.5km, based on Mux thread
- Display instrumentation is better (ie Gear mode is highly visible on Main display) compared to TB (nasa lower left at maliit sya sa TB, and dangerous if di mo makita)
- 3 years warranty
- Will be my 3rd Japanese Car



TB (LT 4x2 AT)
- Sobra ang lakas ng hatak, very useful for overtaking, which I used most during the test drive; this is what also added to my dilemma as I felt the engine capability
- Mas malaki ang mga tubo sa ilalim sa suspension support/arms, when i compared them
- Matagtag sya or am I just used to old school comfy diesel AUV/SUV (Adventure, Montero) using fluid shocks? I felt that every stone is bouncing the vehicle (passed a flat road with some small gravel on it); my wife who is byahilo – did not complain of such, ako ang naka-notice neto
- Mix of nice and needs improvement of accessory items at this model (steering ain’t leather, not leather seats, non-power seat, mirror adjustment is on ideal location, LCD touchscreen on dash is given free because of promo - this is not even the factory LCD touchscreen, i believe)
- Slightly Bigger vehicle, and higher ground clearance (tend to notice it has more legroom in second row?)
- The hood is really heavy and solid (meaning mas better sya on impact protection?)
- FC is 7 to 9kms mixed city driving based on feedback, but SA I spoke told me 8km ang min
- I placed some pressure on the exterior doors and fenders with my hand; tendency to lumulubog din but it took me a lot of pressing to do; in other words mas matigas sya.
- Since these are new vehicles at Thailand made pa… re Parts and Accessories: some maybe expensive with isuzu and some maybe expensive with chevy?
- Compubox nasa loob ng dashboard
- 1st PMS at 5kms is around 6500 (mineral oil); while 10kms is around 9000 (mineral oil);Got this from a friend who showed me the quote
- Heavy dalhin, parang tangke but solid on the ground
- 5 years warranty
- Will be my 1st American Car

[Jack E. Bagbaga]

*DieselInfitiny and * Luckyman

I am actually in your shoes the past two months. TB (A/T), Monty) Dsl (M/T) and MU-X (A/T) naman ang pinagpilihan ko. I road tested them all and finally decided to get the MU-X mainly due to the following;

1. FC - vehicle will be used almost every month for long distance drive (Cavite-Ilocos Norte).
2. Engine life - Isuzu engines are known na pang matagalan (with proper care and maintenance of course). May pinsan akong retired military officer at nasa 240K na ang odo ng Dmax niya (M/T). Retired OFW here (16 yrs abroad) that's why I wanted a ride that lasts long.
3. Riding Comfort and Space - Based on my observation, mas malambot ang ride sa MU-X at mas malaki ang legroom sa 3rd row.
4. Modern features, etc, etc....

Ang PROBLEMA nga lang baka Dec or January pa raw darating ang unit

Just sharing my humble observations.

[Ronald S.S.]

Nabasa ko sa ibang forum... Madaling masira ang GPS ng MU-X..It's nothing to do, sa malaking agwat ng price... Go MU-X.

[LuckyMan]

Nabasa ko sa ibang forum... Madaling masira ang GPS ng MU-X..It's nothing to do, sa malaking agwat ng price... Go MU-X.

So far ok pa naman GPS MU-X namin. 1 year na po sa January 27.

[oliver1013]

Sasabihin ko sana na sundin mo ang puso mo, kaso 1M is 1M..



ahhh alam ko na hanap ka ng nalang ng 2-3 y/o pajero...

[yebo]

masarap mangarap pero mas masarap ang cash sa bank, at lalong mas masarap ang real estate. ako nga tagal ko nang dream yung lc200. pero kahit lc100 lang tapos ise-set up na macho offroad look masayang-masaya na ako dun. may go signal na nga ako kay misis last january e pero ang binili ko instead ay bt50 saka 2 bedroom condo unit. o di meron akong 4x4 at saka condo na may kasamang swimming pool, gym, basketball court, roof deck at isa pang parking space

[rafmac]

Pajero owner here in terms of luxury the isuzu cant compare but if your criteria is a 7 seater take it out of the equation since the 3rd row is cramped. I actually took it out


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