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    What should be the best bang for the buck 2nd hand vehicle under 300k? Specially considering the FC, looks (inner/outer), and parts availability. Any type of vehicle po na masusuggest nyo. It will be for daily office use, and pangweekend getaway din minsan.
    Pasensya na po, poor lang. But I have earned/saved this budget thru hardwork. Maliit man, pero galing sa malinis. [emoji4]
    I hope you could help me out. I'm a big guy, about 5'8" and around 80-90kgs. I wish 7 seater sana, but kung 5 lang, ok na din.
    I previously considered the following:
    Sportivo (nung may extra budget pa)
    Crosswind
    Outlander
    X trail
    Frontier
    Avanza
    Rav4
    Old HRV
    CRV gen 2/3
    City
    Vios
    Vitara
    Sx4
    Pajero (subic)
    Celerio
    Mirage
    Wigo
    Eon

    Thank you po sa makakatulong at sasagot ng ayos. God bless, Tsikoteers. [emoji109]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    What should be the best bang for the buck 2nd hand vehicle under 300k? Specially considering the FC, looks (inner/outer), and parts availability. Any type of vehicle po na masusuggest nyo. It will be for daily office use, and pangweekend getaway din minsan.
    Pasensya na po, poor lang. But I have earned/saved this budget thru hardwork. Maliit man, pero galing sa malinis. [emoji4]
    I hope you could help me out. I'm a big guy, about 5'8" and around 80-90kgs. I wish 7 seater sana, but kung 5 lang, ok na din.
    I previously considered the following:
    Sportivo (nung may extra budget pa)
    Crosswind
    Outlander
    X trail
    Frontier
    Avanza
    Rav4
    Old HRV
    CRV gen 2/3
    City
    Vios
    Vitara
    Sx4
    Pajero (subic)
    Celerio
    Mirage
    Wigo
    Eon

    Thank you po sa makakatulong at sasagot ng ayos. God bless, Tsikoteers. [emoji109]
    Considering the weather and flooding as of late, it is prudent to get a tall vehicle with a diesel engine. Get the newest that your budget will allow. If speed is not a big factor for you, I would suggest the Revo or Adventure. Diesel variants only, of course. Extremely practical, durable, and cheap to maintain. Crosswind is fine, but resale value is too high for my liking. A Subic Pajero is great too. FC will not be as good as the AUVs, but the added power, ride comfort and 4x4 will be welcome. If it is converted well, it will be as good as a local Pajero. But that is a very big IF, and you may end up with an endless money pit if you're not careful.

    Of course there are more modern gasoline powered options out there, but given the fuel costs lately, are not really the best choices for a daily driver.

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    get a diesel auv. or mpv.
    but try it out first, to see if you fit comfortably enough.
    and don't believe them when they say their vehicle is in "drive away" condition. they rarely are.
    always have some left-over cash, for fixin' .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Considering the weather and flooding as of late, it is prudent to get a tall vehicle with a diesel engine. Get the newest that your budget will allow. If speed is not a big factor for you, I would suggest the Revo or Adventure. Diesel variants only, of course. Extremely practical, durable, and cheap to maintain. Crosswind is fine, but resale value is too high for my liking. A Subic Pajero is great too. FC will not be as good as the AUVs, but the added power, ride comfort and 4x4 will be welcome. If it is converted well, it will be as good as a local Pajero. But that is a very big IF, and you may end up with an endless money pit if you're not careful.

    Of course there are more modern gasoline powered options out there, but given the fuel costs lately, are not really the best choices for a daily driver.

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    Thank you sir sa input. Yeah, I want a diesel variant sana. But only choices lang talaga na nakikita ko is Crosswind, Adventure, Revo and Pajero (subic). Is the old Sportage good as well? Yoko kasi sana ng Korean make. Of all these, Crosswind gusto ko (at least lower bro ni Sportivo na wish ko dati).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    get a diesel auv. or mpv.
    but try it out first, to see if you fit comfortably enough.
    and don't believe them when they say their vehicle is in "drive away" condition. they rarely are.
    always have some left-over cash, for fixin' .
    Ano kaya maganda sir? I almost dealed with the Wigo/Celerio/Mirage hatch this past week. Kaso malaki kasi ako, parang di ako komportable in the long run. But I love their fuel efficiency. Haissst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    Thank you sir sa input. Yeah, I want a diesel variant sana. But only choices lang talaga na nakikita ko is Crosswind, Adventure, Revo and Pajero (subic). Is the old Sportage good as well? Yoko kasi sana ng Korean make. Of all these, Crosswind gusto ko (at least lower bro ni Sportivo na wish ko dati).
    Syempre pinakaimportante magugustuhan mo. So if Crosswind ang napupusuan mo, then go ahead. If you save up, you can always facelift your Crosswind to look like a Sportivo. You just change the lights, wheels plus the cladding and door mounted spare tire carrier. Although personally, hindi ko type ang interior ng Crosswind. While the exterior looks good, I find the interior too crude. Both the Revo and Adventure look more modern inside.

    I think the local Pajero, around late 90s to 2000 model will already fit your budget. Konting tawad nalang.

    Then there's the 1st gen Ford Everest. Pasok narin sa budget at mas bago pa sa Pajero. Already makes decent power, has lots of space and safety features like ABS and airbags.

    I don't particularly mind Korean cars. Performance of their diesels are often well ahead of their same-era Japanese competitors. Its just that they are still not as durable as the Japanese. If said Korean car is not a Starex, parts are also often not as easy to get as your other old school options. Which brings me now to the Starex. If you don't mind driving a van, the GRX CRDi already fits your budget. It is more powerful than any old school diesel you are considering, not to mention more comfortable and spacious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Syempre pinakaimportante magugustuhan mo. So if Crosswind ang napupusuan mo, then go ahead. If you save up, you can always facelift your Crosswind to look like a Sportivo. You just change the lights, wheels plus the cladding and door mounted spare tire carrier. Although personally, hindi ko type ang interior ng Crosswind. While the exterior looks good, I find the interior too crude. Both the Revo and Adventure look more modern inside.

    I think the local Pajero, around late 90s to 2000 model will already fit your budget. Konting tawad nalang.

    Then there's the 1st gen Ford Everest. Pasok narin sa budget at mas bago pa sa Pajero. Already makes decent power, has lots of space and safety features like ABS and airbags.

    I don't particularly mind Korean cars. Performance of their diesels are often well ahead of their same-era Japanese competitors. Its just that they are still not as durable as the Japanese. If said Korean car is not a Starex, parts are also often not as easy to get as your other old school options. Which brings me now to the Starex. If you don't mind driving a van, the GRX CRDi already fits your budget. It is more powerful than any old school diesel you are considering, not to mention more comfortable and spacious.

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    Everest garage is maintaining these old Everests like clockwork. It's kinda nuts why their resale value is low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Syempre pinakaimportante magugustuhan mo. So if Crosswind ang napupusuan mo, then go ahead. If you save up, you can always facelift your Crosswind to look like a Sportivo. You just change the lights, wheels plus the cladding and door mounted spare tire carrier. Although personally, hindi ko type ang interior ng Crosswind. While the exterior looks good, I find the interior too crude. Both the Revo and Adventure look more modern inside.

    I think the local Pajero, around late 90s to 2000 model will already fit your budget. Konting tawad nalang.

    Then there's the 1st gen Ford Everest. Pasok narin sa budget at mas bago pa sa Pajero. Already makes decent power, has lots of space and safety features like ABS and airbags.

    I don't particularly mind Korean cars. Performance of their diesels are often well ahead of their same-era Japanese competitors. Its just that they are still not as durable as the Japanese. If said Korean car is not a Starex, parts are also often not as easy to get as your other old school options. Which brings me now to the Starex. If you don't mind driving a van, the GRX CRDi already fits your budget. It is more powerful than any old school diesel you are considering, not to mention more comfortable and spacious.

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    With regards to starex po kasi na luma, may ilan na po kong kakilala na sumakit talaga ang ulo at bulsa sa dami ng naging problema.
    Yung sa Everest na inaadvice mo sir, mga anong year model ang maganda? American car maker naman si Ford, pwede din kaya sir yung diesel na ford focus? Old everest, as per reading somewhere else, is a guzzler. Kahit pa krudo sya. At basta Ford "daw", mahirap at mahal ang pyesa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    With regards to starex po kasi na luma, may ilan na po kong kakilala na sumakit talaga ang ulo at bulsa sa dami ng naging problema.
    Yung sa Everest na inaadvice mo sir, mga anong year model ang maganda? American car maker naman si Ford, pwede din kaya sir yung diesel na ford focus? Old everest, as per reading somewhere else, is a guzzler. Kahit pa krudo sya. At basta Ford "daw", mahirap at mahal ang pyesa.
    Check Everest Garage on fb. Advantage of getting an old Everest is you already have a mechanic that can maintain this for the next 5+ years until you can afford another vehicle.

    Most of these ford vehicles weren't made In the US. Ford has different markets, India Asia Americas. We get mostly Asian made Fords and some US made models.

    Yeah Ford focus na diesel.. matipid kung matipid, finding a mechanic for this is a challenge. Punta ka sa ford casa and you're throwing away your fuel savings out the window..

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Check Everest Garage on fb. Advantage of getting an old Everest is you already have a mechanic that can maintain this for the next 5+ years until you can afford another vehicle.

    Most of these ford vehicles weren't made In the US. Ford has different markets, India Asia Americas. We get mostly Asian made Fords and some US made models.

    Yeah Ford focus na diesel.. matipid kung matipid, finding a mechanic for this is a challenge. Punta ka sa ford casa and you're throwing away your fuel savings out the window..

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    Is the Everest Garage an FB group?

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    its an Everest/Ranger maintenance shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    With regards to starex po kasi na luma, may ilan na po kong kakilala na sumakit talaga ang ulo at bulsa sa dami ng naging problema.
    Yung sa Everest na inaadvice mo sir, mga anong year model ang maganda? American car maker naman si Ford, pwede din kaya sir yung diesel na ford focus? Old everest, as per reading somewhere else, is a guzzler. Kahit pa krudo sya. At basta Ford "daw", mahirap at mahal ang pyesa.
    If you are concerned about costly CRDi repairs with the Starex, perhaps you can consider the old school turbo intercooler variant. Should be easy and cheap to maintain since it is a licensed Mitsubishi 4D56.

    I'd always suggest the newest model you can afford. 1st gen Everests were sold from 2004-2006, IIRC. The Everest is an Asian market model made in Thailand and is actually based on the Mazda B-series pickup so no problem with parts. With regards to FC, if you get the manual 4x2 you should be good. And then again, you are considering the Pajero, whose FC would not be far off.

    The Focus TDCi is nice. Not sure if parts are expensive though. But you will definitely enjoy the car. A true blue Euro hot hatch. Only get the manual for as we all know, the Powershift trannies are $hit. Meanwhile, IIRC the manual uses dual mass flywheel. So clutch replacement is gonna be expensive...

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    I thought you were considering yaris?

    From your choices, probably the crosswind is a solid choice. But if it was me, ill prolly go with xtrail or am escape (not the most fc friendly though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    *ts
    I thought you were considering yaris?

    From your choices, probably the crosswind is a solid choice. But if it was me, ill prolly go with xtrail or am escape (not the most fc friendly though).

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    O nga sir, nawala sa list. Late ko na narealize, tinamad na mag-edit (kung pwede man). Yaris looks so adorable to my eyes. Well, lahat ata ng hatchbacks ngayon ang ganda sa paningin ko. But ayan po yung mga kinoconsider ko. Mejo hirap makadecide e. Yoko magkamali, lalo nat I really saved for it. Kakahiya man, pero years ko din yan pinag-ipunan. [emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    O nga sir, nawala sa list. Late ko na narealize, tinamad na mag-edit (kung pwede man). Yaris looks so adorable to my eyes. Well, lahat ata ng hatchbacks ngayon ang ganda sa paningin ko. But ayan po yung mga kinoconsider ko. Mejo hirap makadecide e. Yoko magkamali, lalo nat I really saved for it. Kakahiya man, pero years ko din yan pinag-ipunan. [emoji4]
    Nothing to be ashamed kung matagal pinagipunan. Nothing beats hardwork.

    First thing you may want to decide on is what type of car you like. Hatch, sedan, crossover, auv, or suv. Then cut down the choices from there. Masyado broad kasi ang choices mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    O nga sir, nawala sa list. Late ko na narealize, tinamad na mag-edit (kung pwede man). Yaris looks so adorable to my eyes. Well, lahat ata ng hatchbacks ngayon ang ganda sa paningin ko. But ayan po yung mga kinoconsider ko. Mejo hirap makadecide e. Yoko magkamali, lalo nat I really saved for it. Kakahiya man, pero years ko din yan pinag-ipunan. [emoji4]
    The Yaris is a good car. But it is a bit small. Not sure if you will be comfortable in it. But AFAIK it was only available in 1.5A/T. And the city FC of such engines are at 8km/L thereabouts, which is similar to what a Revo/Adventure/Crosswind will get, but with a fuel that is cheaper by P12/L.

    Just to share, I used a diesel Revo as my daily driver for five years. It was noisy and slow, but gave decent gas mileage at 7-8km/L city, 12-14 highway. Top speed strictly up to 140 only. No smoke belching after a calibration session (forgot how much but it didn't cost much). Suspension was rock solid. In fact it still had the factory shocks and springs when I relinquished it in 2016 (its a 2001 model). But of course, expect to have to replace stuff with cars of this age and price range down the road, even if not immediately. I had the Revo from 2011-2016. During this time, non-consumables I'd replaced included the A/C compressor, alternator, brake master, LSPV, speedometer cable and broken exhaust pipe. I've also had to perform a top overhaul. While these may seem to be major repair jobs, almost all of them cost below 10k to fix including labor charges, while the overhaul only cost slightly more than 10k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Nothing to be ashamed kung matagal pinagipunan. Nothing beats hardwork.

    First thing you may want to decide on is what type of car you like. Hatch, sedan, crossover, auv, or suv. Then cut down the choices from there. Masyado broad kasi ang choices mo.

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    I really want more than a car (sedan or hatch). A diesel engine is definitely a plus, since FC really matters to me. Pero love ko din ang hatch more than a sedan. Haha, gulo db? So, I am considering yaris, mirage hatch, wigo, jazz and celerio even they are gasoline engines. As I've indicated, the vehicle will be used mostly for daily office travel (around 20kms balikan).
    Ang hirap makadecide pag tight sa budget. But I'm enjoying it. Dami kong info na nababasa at natututunan tungkol sa sasakyan. [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    The Yaris is a good car. But it is a bit small. Not sure if you will be comfortable in it. But AFAIK it was only available in 1.5A/T. And the city FC of such engines are at 8km/L thereabouts, which is similar to what a Revo/Adventure/Crosswind will get, but with a fuel that is cheaper by P12/L.

    Just to share, I used a diesel Revo as my daily driver for five years. It was noisy and slow, but gave decent gas mileage at 7-8km/L city, 12-14 highway. Top speed strictly up to 140 only. No smoke belching after a calibration session (forgot how much but it didn't cost much). Suspension was rock solid. In fact it still had the factory shocks and springs when I relinquished it in 2016 (its a 2001 model). But of course, expect to have to replace stuff with cars of this age and price range down the road, even if not immediately. I had the Revo from 2011-2016. During this time, non-consumables I'd replaced included the A/C compressor, alternator, brake master, LSPV, speedometer cable and broken exhaust pipe. I've also had to perform a top overhaul. While these may seem to be major repair jobs, almost all of them cost below 10k to fix including labor charges, while the overhaul only cost slightly more than 10k.

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    Maganda sir for me ang revo over adventure. Basta same engine type lang a. But my uncle already has diesel revo. While another relative used to have advie. So, sa Crosswind talaga ako napapatingin that's within my budget. Other than that, wala na kong makitang diesel engine na good and reliable na pasok sa budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15thMan View Post
    I really want more than a car (sedan or hatch). A diesel engine is definitely a plus, since FC really matters to me. Pero love ko din ang hatch more than a sedan. Haha, gulo db? So, I am considering yaris, mirage hatch, wigo, jazz and celerio even they are gasoline engines. As I've indicated, the vehicle will be used mostly for daily office travel (around 20kms balikan).
    Ang hirap makadecide pag tight sa budget. But I'm enjoying it. Dami kong info na nababasa at natututunan tungkol sa sasakyan. [emoji23]
    Pwede ding compromise in the form of the Accent or Getz CRDi. You can befriend an Accent cab driver to know the nitty gritty details on maintenance. I'm sure marami nang parts by now sa dami nang Accent na ginagawang taxi.

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    adventure bro sulit na sulit ..sayo yan sigurado sa tipid lang din sa diesel wala ka masasabi .kahit pang hanap buhay pwede..

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