Help me choose a coding car

[dr. d]

Planning to get a 2nd car by this august and would like some help choosing.

Requirements:

• AT - prefer conventional, pero I'll take CVT basta hindi nissan
• Longevity/durability/reliability - planning to keep the car for 15yrs/150,000km
• Driver's car - Owner driven, gusto ko #1 ang driver kung hindi #1 tied at #1
• Push Start button and rear view camera. Or atleast a switch blade key kung walang push start
• center console high enough to support my leg. - Test drive a Brio and sumakit paa ko dahil walang masandalan so want something na may masasandalan ang legs ko.
• Power adjustable side mirrors

Budget - 1.2m max
Current car - 2013 Civic. No plans to sell

Initially choosing between Vitara and HR-V pero with suzuki putting vitara on life support, kinda drop na cya sa list ko. HR-V I think is too expensive for me but I love the deep cockpit. Looking at it, current civic (1.8e) seems to be the best choice pero magmumukha akong civic fanboy if I drive 2 civics, back to back generation pa...nothing wrong with it I guess, pero I want to keep this as last resort.

I'm also looking at the Jazz and City, pero thinking about it kinda not worth the 1m price tag. Maybe bababa ito with the new Jazz around the corner and honda no longer manufacturing the City in PH, still though unless bumaba ito ng ~900k, I think much better buy ang civic. I rather get a city than a vios for the same price though, no offence...

I think out na ang Altis since nakatago ang 12v and usb sa loob ng armrest. I need this for the Dashcam, unless may offered work around si Toyota?

I'm not considering the mini MPVs like rush, xpander and br-v, dahil I won't be carrying people in it and I want a fun car. Unless you guys have insight on these cars that they are fun to drive.

Mazda is out due to needing deep cycle batteries and very expensive prices. May deep cycle batteries ba sa labas ng casa? My friend that has a CX-5 told me motolite does not offer Mazda batteries outside of casa...basically ielope is a nightmare and kakainin lng ng battery savings mo sa gas.

China made cars are out due to longevity, seriously I don't want to gamble at this time. And maybe medyo politics pero the next president may take away the free trade agreement with china. Sa mga taga manila alam nyo naman nangyari sa roxas and carriedo during Atienza then what happened when Lim took over again. The Lavida is tempting though but with ancient platform (from 1996), I don't think so. Coolray is cool, pero from reviews, it's not a fun car, just a very high-tech car.

Hyundai is out too due to HARI.

I'm interested in Pick-ups pero I think they are too wide for my office parking (2m lang ang width sa office parking) and too long for my home parking (10m length x ~3m width stacked parking 4.6m na civic so medyo bumber to bumber ito). I can try to borrow a pick-up from a friend to see kung kakasya if these are better for me. Pero prices are very tempting.

Sorry kung mas madami ako tinnaggal kesa sa kinonsider, pero I wanted a reliable car that will not give me headache for the next 15yrs. So wanted safe choices and don't want shouting matches with casa or going all over manila to find parts. And I also think I was spoiled by the civic kahit na ito ung worst generation ng civic, I find madami considerations na ginawa honda sa interior deisgn na I don't think I can live without.

Salamat sa lahat ng bumasa at magcocomment.

get an innova.
even a pre-owned one.

oops!
did you say, 2 meters wide lang ang office parking ninyo!
in that case, you are fated to drive a small car.
mebbe the non-totl city.
or the totl wigo or mirage. malaki pa sukli ninyo.

[ray_noel]

Sir can we narrow down your choices?

So you’re not into ppv/pick-up...

You’re in the market for sedan/cross-over...

For 1.2M may brand new na yan for sedan and crossover...

For crossover-
CRV, pwede ka maka kuha second hand since na cross-out mo na si cx-5...

For Sedan-
Try mazda-6 second hand...


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[Walter]

He's going to use the vehicle for 10-15 years ... better to buy brand new ...

[dr. d]

a coding car used for 15 years, will probably get less wear than a daily driver used for 5 years.

[travajante]

Among the choices ... the Suzuki Jimny is one of the few that's tried and tested ...

Jimny gets my vote. Drove & checked workmate's just-delivered. Simple electronics, easy to own/use/maintain. Fun stock or project. Retro & will likely be a classic.

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[ice15]

Voting for the HR-V

[jut703]

For this topic, makasedan pa din ako tlga pero konto lang ata sedan na may rear backup camera. MG 3 lang ata but do correct me if i am wrong.

Civic has a rear backup camera - even has the lane markers that adjust as you move the steering wheel.

Mazda 3 also has a rear backup camera, so does the 12th gen Altis.

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[sive]

Kung ako nasa position mo Civic pa rin pipiliin ko, 'di bale ng parehas na Civic sasakyan o masabing fanboy eh kung lahat naman talaga ng gusto ko nandoon na 'di ba?

[dr. d]

Kung ako nasa position mo Civic pa rin pipiliin ko, 'di bale ng parehas na Civic sasakyan o masabing fanboy eh kung lahat naman talaga ng gusto ko nandoon na 'di ba?

i agree.
if you like your current civic,
get another one and double your like!
para plaka na lang ang mag-de-decide kung ano ang ilalabas mo today...

[sean-archer]

15 years? I'd get a Toyota and explore for that workaround you were mentioning.

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[travajante]

15yr requisite would automatically omit CVTs.

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[jut703]

Sobrang underwhelming ng current Altis. Not just because of the usb port placement (which is a very, very easy fix anyway that doesn't void warranty).

You'd expect it to push the envelope vs the 4 year old Civic but it has a weaker engine (with roughly the same consumption), underwhelming head unit, smaller legroom, and plain looks.

Just as a Corolla can last 15 years easily, so can a Civic (just look at how prevalent EK Civics are until today).

If you'll end up getting a sedan anyway, go for the Civic. But as someone with 3 sedans in our garage, you'd be better off having your second car as a crossover/PPV.

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[jut703]

15yr requisite would automatically omit CVTs.

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Willing to wager that current CVTs will last 15 years with proper maintenance. Otherwise they wouldn't have gone mainstream.

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[GTi]

You did say this is a coding car, so I'd get something different from a sedan.

Limited garage space, usually with no passengers, and like something with higher ride height? Jimny!

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[sean-archer]

You did say this is a coding car, so I'd get something different from a sedan.

Limited garage space, usually with no passengers, and like something with higher ride height? Jimny!

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Coding car would equate to same car/variant , different plate number?

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[jut703]

Labo na coding car but in a separate post it will be used 99.9% of the time? So maybe it's the FB Civic that'll be the coding car and this'll be the new primary car.

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[GTi]

Labo na coding car but in a separate post it will be used 99.9% of the time? So maybe it's the FB Civic that'll be the coding car and this'll be the new primary car.

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Hmm probably he meant he will be the only one driving the car 99.9% of the time and not any other person.

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[travajante]

Willing to wager that current CVTs will last 15 years with proper maintenance. Otherwise they wouldn't have gone mainstream.

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CVTs going mainstream is part of planned obsolescence guised as advancement. The required added periodic maintenance would mean increased ownership expense & dealership dependence....And should they implode beyond warranty? Non-rebuildable, even more out of pocket. I'd rather stick to my preference for trusted reparable MTs/conventional ATs than play sucker to them manufacturers. All IMHO.
CVTs...Thanks, but no thanks, sir...not yet, while choices abound....And gambling isn't amongst my vices.[emoji4]

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[jut703]

CVTs going mainstream is part of planned obsolescence guised as advancement. The required added periodic maintenance would mean increased ownership expense & dealership dependence....And should they implode beyond warranty? Non-rebuildable, even more out of pocket. I'd rather stick to my preference for trusted reparable MTs/conventional ATs than play sucker to them manufacturers. All IMHO.
CVTs...Thanks, but no thanks, sir...not yet, while choices abound....And gambling isn't amongst my vices.[emoji4]

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So yung libo libong Vios, City, Mirage na nasa daan ngayon hindi aabot ng 10-15 years?

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[drphph]

Sorry can't reply to everyone. Thanks sa mga suggestions. I'll go visit some dealers to get my test drives in.

Yes ako lang magisa gagamit 99% of the time. Coding car just means I need a car for days na d ko pwede ilabas current car ko. Twice a week to since wednesday coding ko at night shift ako. Yan ung minimum atleast. Either I buy a car na mainly used twice a week or palit sila ng civic ko and my civic becomes the coding car used twice a week.

Mainly looking at crossovers and hatches para maiba naman, pero wala kasi masyadong crossover/hatch. Mas madami ung 7-seater mini suvs than 5-seater crossovers/hatches

On the CVTs, agree ako, kinda don't want to get a CVT if I can help it. Pero most cars now are CVTs, lamang sa choice ko Vitara vs HR-V mainly because it's conventional AT. But doing more research halos lahat ng CVTs na nasisira are Nissan kaya un lang ayaw ko na CVT. I think Subaru have been using CVTs since 2013, I did look at the XV before I bought the civic, CVT na un and wala naman ako nababasa na problem with that.

My list right now looks like this
1. Civic
2. Seltos - Thanks to Jut703, I'm good with that type of key so balik na ito sa list ko.
3. Jimny
4. Second-hand
5. HR-V
6. Jazz/City
7. Altis
8. Vitara

I'll ask Toyota if they have a workaround for the dashcam. I like the exterior of the Altis, pero true hindi maganda interior. Jimny, hay...nakakainis cya, gusto ko cya in that kakaiba cya. I get a 4x4, it's cute and well built. pero ang mahal for a toy.

I think I'll give 2nd hands another look. Middle of last year nagcheck ako and they seem to be taking advantage of the train law, my '13 civic is around 700k...lol 850k lang bili ko nung 2013...Did a quick look at carmudi and the 2016 Mazda 6 is at 900k which is a very good price and swak pa ung plate sa gusto ko na coding day... looks like the prices are settling after the initial wave of train.