audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[bugsmobile]

Not sure if it's the right thread, but I already changed my wife's Innova's speakers & now thinking of changing the head unit as well.

Her innova is the E variant so it doesn't have the touchscreen. Wanted to get a reverse camera so she wouldn't have a hard time. But obviously I have to change the head unit first.

I saw in Lazada for some as low as P5k. I don't really need the expensive high end ones. Just need one that can be used for reverse camera, & bluetooth & steering wheel controls as well.

Anyone here tried any of them in Lazada? Or any other cheap recommendation? Thanks!

Ended up getting a Pioneer 2850. Got a rear view cam, & connector for the steering wheel as well. Downloaded the pioneer app to connect the phone. Menu seeps a bit complicated. Sometimes, I can make waze to show on the unit, but oftentimes just a blank screen, but there's an audio from waze. Menu seems a bit complicated, maybe just needs some getting used to.

^ thanks for the tip bos

i'm not wanting to shatter any windows naman but i just want to add a little oomph to the car's sound system (non-stock na siya bale) . so i'm guessing i might settle for an underseat active sub because i don't want to sacrifice the trunk space of our fd. any brand (that's not too painful on the wallet) anyone can recommend mga bro?

There are some underwear subs that cost around P5k I think.

[baludoy]

^ underwear subs? hindi po kelangan ng bass iyong flatulence ko. malalim na po siya as it is

seriously mga bos, thanks for giving me some idea on the price. will check out shops probably when the rain stops

[bugsmobile]

^ underwear subs? hindi po kelangan ng bass iyong flatulence ko. malalim na po siya as it is

seriously mga bos, thanks for giving me some idea on the price. will check out shops probably when the rain stops

Haha sorry sir, underseat dapat. Damn autocorrect!

[sientobente]

Ended up getting a Pioneer 2850. Got a rear view cam, & connector for the steering wheel as well. Downloaded the pioneer app to connect the phone. Menu seeps a bit complicated. Sometimes, I can make waze to show on the unit, but oftentimes just a blank screen, but there's an audio from waze. Menu seems a bit complicated, maybe just needs some getting used to.




There are some underwear subs that cost around P5k I think.

Yung problema boss, Google stopped support for headunits, not just Pioneer, and wants to focus on Android Auto. So Waze is stuck nalang as audio. My 8850BT has Android Auto but Waze isn't available yet, but according to Google it is in the works soon.

[joey36b]

[QUOTE=jhnkvn;2770661]Re: Two 8" versus 10"

If your intent is to fill out a City's cabin, even just a single 8" would do the job. You're not into gapang naman (and even if you are, it'll still be enough for the average listener). But to be safe, I'll suggest a single 10".

While two 8" would be theoretically be better, a single 10" would be better for your wallet

Thank you sir jhnkvn!
I end up buying a used RE se12d2 with ported box. Ok naman sya puno ang jazz pagbumira hehe kaso almost puno din cargo area ko hehe. 11x28 ang nasakop. What if i use a rectangular 1cuft sealed enclosure para sa RE? Maganda pa rin kaya? Solved ako sa performance now but masimportante ung space eh. For the meantime inienjoy ko na rin ung medyo gapang na bass haha but i need a mono amp masusunog ung c160 amp ko underpower sir. Planning to buy used sound magus x or vs 1500 pagmaybudget na. Any inputs about this amp? Thanks po again.

[jhnkvn]

[QUOTE=joey36b;2771918]

Re: Two 8" versus 10"

If your intent is to fill out a City's cabin, even just a single 8" would do the job. You're not into gapang naman (and even if you are, it'll still be enough for the average listener). But to be safe, I'll suggest a single 10".

While two 8" would be theoretically be better, a single 10" would be better for your wallet

Thank you sir jhnkvn!
I end up buying a used RE se12d2 with ported box. Ok naman sya puno ang jazz pagbumira hehe kaso almost puno din cargo area ko hehe. 11x28 ang nasakop. What if i use a rectangular 1cuft sealed enclosure para sa RE? Maganda pa rin kaya? Solved ako sa performance now but masimportante ung space eh. For the meantime inienjoy ko na rin ung medyo gapang na bass haha but i need a mono amp masusunog ung c160 amp ko underpower sir. Planning to buy used sound magus x or vs 1500 pagmaybudget na. Any inputs about this amp? Thanks po again.

T/S parameters of SE and the *** series are the same so you should check that series out for your enclosure recommendations (woofers). The *** is the direct successor of the wildly popular SE-series. I still scratch my head on why you went for a secondhand RE Audio though.. in general I dislike secondhand subwoofer drivers on the basis that most people abuse them heavily

Just get a 1 cu. ft. sealed enclosure. But if possible, stretch it a bit. What you want is to stretch the internal dimensions as much as possible while it's conforming to your size restrictions. For example, if you can still stretch it to a 1.4 cu.ft sealed, go for it.

Reason for this is that a bigger box lessens power handling because box = efficiency. If you needed 500W in a 1.0cu ft box to play a certain sound level, it'll probably need around 300W in a 1.5cu.ft box. I would recommend the best of both worlds, get the ported 1.5cuft box * 35hz. +3dB on the port is not a laughing matter especially if it's +3dB.

[joey36b]

[QUOTE=jhnkvn;2772675]

T/S parameters of SE and the *** series are the same so you should check that series out for your enclosure recommendations (woofers). The *** is the direct successor of the wildly popular SE-series. I still scratch my head on why you went for a secondhand RE Audio though.. in general I dislike secondhand subwoofer drivers on the basis that most people abuse them....

My original plan is a pair 8" or a 10" new! until i came across with this for sale RE and ur ideas which i have read in your past post popping in my head hehe
... "why 10" if you could squeeze a 12" and call it a day"
.... about xmax, isip ko 18mm ang RE eto na un hihi
....at 600w rms with 150% w rms mono amp (wala pa ako) will be more head room! Sabi mo nga its better to lower the gain than nothing if you want more...
... from a company who spend more in R&D.

Except used nga lang siya. Tempting eh for a price of 5K with L ported box ( na dinig ko pa kagad hehe. dont know lang wer it tuned). Sumugal na ako hehe. For many times using jumper cable and burning fuels hindi pa naman umusok vc hehe and not even once na distort siya, im aboved average listener.
May konting scratch lang ang cone at medyo gutay ang carpet ng box and i think glue lang katapat. I still prefer na magsealed para space saver.

Na pansin ko lang hindi ako makatagal sa loob ng jazz at high volume masakit sa ulo hehe (magkakahalataan na) haha.

Na absorb ko about power handling so i dont need pla sobra lakas ng amp kung i use ported box.

Sir isang tanong na lang hehe. In box building (sealed) malaking factor ba sa perfornance ng sub ang distance ng rear board sa magnet ng subwoofer? May effect kaya on how low, lapad ng sound ( wat ever), tightness ng bass kung 1" or more ang distance nya sa loob ng box?

Many thanks sir sa mga infos, big help!

[baludoy]

Ok ba ryan audio? Mukhang iyong 8 inchers nila na underseat active sub ang bibilhin ko since pasok sa budget ko

to be or not to be, that always confuses me!

[jhnkvn]

[QUOTE=joey36b;2773814]

My original plan is a pair 8" or a 10" new! until i came across with this for sale RE and ur ideas which i have read in your past post popping in my head hehe
... "why 10" if you could squeeze a 12" and call it a day"
.... about xmax, isip ko 18mm ang RE eto na un hihi
....at 600w rms with 150% w rms mono amp (wala pa ako) will be more head room! Sabi mo nga its better to lower the gain than nothing if you want more...
... from a company who spend more in R&D.

Except used nga lang siya. Tempting eh for a price of 5K with L ported box ( na dinig ko pa kagad hehe. dont know lang wer it tuned). Sumugal na ako hehe. For many times using jumper cable and burning fuels hindi pa naman umusok vc hehe and not even once na distort siya, im aboved average listener.
May konting scratch lang ang cone at medyo gutay ang carpet ng box and i think glue lang katapat. I still prefer na magsealed para space saver.

Na pansin ko lang hindi ako makatagal sa loob ng jazz at high volume masakit sa ulo hehe (magkakahalataan na) haha.

Na absorb ko about power handling so i dont need pla sobra lakas ng amp kung i use ported box.

Sir isang tanong na lang hehe. In box building (sealed) malaking factor ba sa perfornance ng sub ang distance ng rear board sa magnet ng subwoofer? May effect kaya on how low, lapad ng sound ( wat ever), tightness ng bass kung 1" or more ang distance nya sa loob ng box?

Many thanks sir sa mga infos, big help!

1. Yup, a 12" will always be superior to a 8" or a 10" as it can move more air with less cone travel.
2. RE Audio has always been well-loved and well-received

Regarding your question, the answer is.. a simple no. All it cares is the internal space of the box. After all, you can't really know how often will a certain sound wave bounce around inside the enclosure.

For the enclosure, just pay attention to:
1. What material, type, and size of the enclosure.
2. Whether you'll "stuff" it with rockwool or mineral wool inside. Meron effect yan.
3. Its internal bracing. This is how home audio companies sell 6 digit subwoofer enclosures.
4. Orientation. Iba yun sound if you have the speaker fire up or from the side.
5. Where you'll place it in the car.

These are probably the 5 biggest variables on how the subwoofer will sound in your car. #1, #2, and #3 will affect waves of the subwoofer while #4 and #5 is more about acoustics. On a subwoofer basis, #1 is the most important one. But how it'll sound in your car will depend on #4 and #5.

That's why car audio is challenging. Different kasi ang acoustics ng vehicle so even if a certain subwoofer sounds good in Car A, it might not necessarily sound good in Car B if you're hardcore about it

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Ok ba ryan audio? Mukhang iyong 8 inchers nila na underseat active sub ang bibilhin ko since pasok sa budget ko

to be or not to be, that always confuses me!

Go mo na yan. Wag na pakipot!

[MR_BIG18]

[QUOTE=jhnkvn;2774021]

1. Yup, a 12" will always be superior to a 8" or a 10" as it can move more air with less cone travel.
2. RE Audio has always been well-loved and well-received

Regarding your question, the answer is.. a simple no. All it cares is the internal space of the box. After all, you can't really know how often will a certain sound wave bounce around inside the enclosure.

For the enclosure, just pay attention to:
1. What material, type, and size of the enclosure.
2. Whether you'll "stuff" it with rockwool or mineral wool inside. Meron effect yan.
3. Its internal bracing. This is how home audio companies sell 6 digit subwoofer enclosures.
4. Orientation. Iba yun sound if you have the speaker fire up or from the side.
5. Where you'll place it in the car.

These are probably the 5 biggest variables on how the subwoofer will sound in your car. #1, #2, and #3 will affect waves of the subwoofer while #4 and #5 is more about acoustics. On a subwoofer basis, #1 is the most important one. But how it'll sound in your car will depend on #4 and #5.

That's why car audio is challenging. Different kasi ang acoustics ng vehicle so even if a certain subwoofer sounds good in Car A, it might not necessarily sound good in Car B if you're hardcore about it

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Go mo na yan. Wag na pakipot!

when i was into car audio the best subs for SQ was often a 10 incher, its was accurate on bass drums and bass guitar runs, 12" for sq/spl applications....

[joey36b]

[QUOTE=jhnkvn;2774021][QUOTE=joey36b;2773814]

1. Yup, a 12" will always be superior to a 8" or a 10" as it can move more air with less cone travel.
2. RE Audio has always been well-loved and well-received

Regarding your question, the answer is.. a simple no. All it cares is the internal space of the box. After all, you can't really know how often will a certain sound wave bounce around inside the enclosure.

For the enclosure, just pay attention to:
1. What material, type, and size of the enclosure.
2. Whether you'll "stuff" it with rockwool or mineral wool inside. Meron effect yan.
3. Its internal bracing. This is how home audio companies sell 6 digit subwoofer enclosures.
4. Orientation. Iba yun sound if you have the speaker fire up or from the side.
5. Where you'll place it in the car.

These are probably the 5 biggest variables on how the subwoofer will sound in your car. #1, #2, and #3 will affect waves of the subwoofer while #4 and #5 is more about acoustics. On a subwoofer basis, #1 is the most important one. But how it'll sound in your car will depend on #4 and #5.

That's why car audio is challenging. Different kasi ang acoustics ng vehicle so even if a certain subwoofer sounds good in Car A, it might not necessarily sound good in Car B if you're hardcore about it :grin

Thanks again for the brief but concise information sir jhnkvn! Maykaalaman nanaman nadagdag po.

Thanks sa link ng RE, *** pla model ng sub.

Google ko na lang rockwool and mineral wool hehe. Alam ko lang polyfill na cheap at ung fiber na pinkish na makati sa balat.

Parang ang sarap din na may hiwattage sub na 10" for true SQ, dont know pa kung ano medyo mura na brand...JL?

Sa setup ko ngayon sa low or at hi volume may gap konti sa tone or may maybe sa clarity.... ewan haha between outpUt ng midbass at ng subwoofer may small gap konti. Maybe masyado mababa for my liking ang tune ng re haha. 80's kasi panahon ko hehe baka siguro pagsealed enclosure na ang RE magkasundo na kami ng husto, if not eh pagmaybudget uli makahanap Ng 10" pure SQ sub maski used uli hehe. Kung ano man ang mood interchangeable ang sub haha. Thanks again sir!

[joey36b]

^ underwear subs? hindi po kelangan ng bass iyong flatulence ko. malalim na po siya as it is

seriously mga bos, thanks for giving me some idea on the price. will check out shops probably when the rain stops

Natawa ako dito haha

Before ang sub ko a pair of kicker 6.5cvt in a separate .25cuft sealed box na nasa backseat ng jazz. I think kasya sa underseat ng fd mo. Maganda ang tunog kumpleto! Ok lang sya at medium volume level, petformance wise mas-ok kaysa bazooka type active subwoofer ko dati, dont know lang ung mga labas ngayon na underseat active sub.

[tole31]

Guys, newbie here. Ano mas OK sa dalawa Hertz HSK 165 or Focal PS 165F? Yan kasi ang inalok saken ng C&J AutoSound. And kelangan ko ba talaga ng amp?
Thanks.

[Egan101]

Guys, newbie here. Ano mas OK sa dalawa Hertz HSK 165 or Focal PS 165F? Yan kasi ang inalok saken ng C&J AutoSound. And kelangan ko ba talaga ng amp?
Thanks.

Focal for me. If you want to maximize the potential of your seps, you need an amp to power it properly.

[MR_BIG18]

Focal for me. If you want to maximize the potential of your seps, you need an amp to power it properly.

i used to have 3way focal utopias (care of micky's autosound) driven by an audison amp and a polykev sub driven by a rf on my 90s ride, mas mahal pa yung audio setup sa kotse ko before toink

[Egan101]

i used to have 3way focal utopias (care of micky's autosound) driven by an audison amp and a polykev sub driven by a rf on my 90s ride, mas mahal pa yung audio setup sa kotse ko before toink

You had one sweet audio setup there. The equipment alone cost a bit much and active 3-way setups are not easy to install.

Customer din ako ni Mickey. I used to take the long trip to his shop in Marikina just to get some audio equipment there. My old Exalta had a simple DLS 2-way active setup was mostly done in his shop. My friend just got some Focal seps for his Focus and Mickey told him of some good Focal integration kits for Ford Sync with matching slim amps that could fit under the front seat.

[MR_BIG18]

You had one sweet audio setup there. The equipment alone cost a bit much and active 3-way setups are not easy to install.

Customer din ako ni Mickey. I used to take the long trip to his shop in Marikina just to get some audio equipment there. My old Exalta had a simple DLS 2-way active setup was mostly done in his shop. My friend just got some Focal seps for his Focus and Mickey told him of some good Focal integration kits for Ford Sync with matching slim amps that could fit under the front seat.

i took 2 days to install the kickpods etc...i wasnt a hassle coz di pa naman traffic then

[Egan101]

^^^ Mickey has some good stuff for audio setups limited by space. A small amp with a built-in processor similar to the Harman Kardon stuff on the Forester XT. He told my friend that it is highly recommended for tight spaces like hatchbacks.

[baludoy]

meron ba gamit dito ng rta audio analyzer app?

[MR_BIG18]

^^^ Mickey has some good stuff for audio setups limited by space. A small amp with a built-in processor similar to the Harman Kardon stuff on the Forester XT. He told my friend that it is highly recommended for tight spaces like hatchbacks.

graduate na ako sa audio no need when you just use the AM station