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    #1901
    Quote Originally Posted by benchman View Post
    depende sir. sedan or van? meron na po ba speakers sa rear kahit stock? kung wala, is it ok for you or the passengers na walang speakers sa rear?
    sedan sir, current set-up ko kasi component at coaxial , yung nababasa ko kasi sa ibang set-up pinapatay/di ginagamit yung rear speaker kapag meron na subwoofer, 4 channel amp ko kasi baka pwede na ikabit ko subs dun sa slot para sa rear ayoko na kasi magdagdag ng 1 pang amp wala na sa budget

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    #1902
    Quote Originally Posted by aprilboyidol View Post
    sedan sir, current set-up ko kasi component at coaxial , yung nababasa ko kasi sa ibang set-up pinapatay/di ginagamit yung rear speaker kapag meron na subwoofer, 4 channel amp ko kasi baka pwede na ikabit ko subs dun sa slot para sa rear ayoko na kasi magdagdag ng 1 pang amp wala na sa budget
    pwede yan sir. 4 channel amp= 2ch hi-pass front, 2ch low pass in bridge mode for sub(kung supported ng amp mo ang bridge mode and have enough power to drive a decent sub).

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    #1903
    Hi, Nag upgrade ako ng stock speakers ng Santa Fe ko. Current HU is Pioneer 2850bt, 4 channel amp, Separates, Coaxials, deadening on all 4 doors and a 12 inch slotport subs.


    Problem ko is nawala yung sound ng mga palo ng drums (midbass?). Yung stock speakers ko meron nun before.. Ano po need i adjust sa amplifier or HU para maibalik yung midbass?

    Gusto ko din po sana na magkaroon ng konting bayo pag inalis ko yung rear subs whenver may karga ako sa rear. Kasi yung stock speakers ko before meron konting bayo so not sure bakit nawala nung nag upgrade ako.

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    #1904
    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Hi, Nag upgrade ako ng stock speakers ng Santa Fe ko. Current HU is Pioneer 2850bt, 4 channel amp, Separates, Coaxials, deadening on all 4 doors and a 12 inch slotport subs.


    Problem ko is nawala yung sound ng mga palo ng drums (midbass?). Yung stock speakers ko meron nun before.. Ano po need i adjust sa amplifier or HU para maibalik yung midbass?

    Gusto ko din po sana na magkaroon ng konting bayo pag inalis ko yung rear subs whenver may karga ako sa rear. Kasi yung stock speakers ko before meron konting bayo so not sure bakit nawala nung nag upgrade ako.
    Check your highpass filter sa setting ng h.u. or amp and try to lower its cut-off.

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    #1905
    guys saan maganda install ang power amplifier sa pajero intercooler? yung ilalim kasi ng driver and passenger may aircon vent sa ilalim. pag sa ilalim ng 2nd row naman masikip tska may tatamang bakal.

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    #1906
    Hi Sir,ask lang po.i have a DLS 426 two way cross and a pioneer ta-a6971e .whats your recommended setup?do i need to buy amp and sub?planning to change my stock ,montero 09.also planning to change hu to pioneer 8850.input greatly appreciated.TIA.

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    #1907
    kailangan parin po ba ng separates kapag maglalagay ka ng midrange/midbass speakers, pwede po ba front and back ng sedan midrange speaker lang ..... salamat

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    #1908
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo2003 View Post
    Hi Sir,ask lang po.i have a DLS 426 two way cross and a pioneer ta-a6971e .whats your recommended setup?do i need to buy amp and sub?planning to change my stock ,montero 09.also planning to change hu to pioneer 8850.input greatly appreciated.TIA.
    Personal preference ang pag-add ng amp at sub. Depende yan sa objective mo. Bitin ka sa power, add amp. Bitin ka sa bass, add subwoofer.

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    #1909
    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    Personal preference ang pag-add ng amp at sub. Depende yan sa objective mo. Bitin ka sa power, add amp. Bitin ka sa bass, add subwoofer.

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    Thanks Sir!

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    #1910
    Ano ano po mga difference ng mga deadening products sa market natin? Quote kasi sa isang shop sa SF ko 5k for 2 doors. While yung Acoustipad 2k for 2 doors. Kung DIY nga yung Acoustipad 250 lang per 2ft x 3ft sheet.


    Also ano po mas recommended. Naka amplify kasi yung front and rear speakers ko. Much better ba kung di ko na gamitin yung HPF sa amp on front and rear channel at sa HPF na lang ng Pioneer 2850bt ang gamitin?
    Last edited by jmpet626; May 4th, 2016 at 04:09 PM.

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    #1911
    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Ano ano po mga difference ng mga deadening products sa market natin? Quote kasi sa isang shop sa SF ko 5k for 2 doors. While yung Acoustipad 2k for 2 doors. Kung DIY nga yung Acoustipad 250 lang per 2ft x 3ft sheet.


    Also ano po mas recommended. Naka amplify kasi yung front and rear speakers ko. Much better ba kung di ko na gamitin yung HPF sa amp on front and rear channel at sa HPF na lang ng Pioneer 2850bt ang gamitin?
    Tanong mo sa seller if the more expensive type has a aluminum layer. Yun mga generic type like the acoustipad you mentioned does not have aluminum layer. Mas malinis at mas heat resistant ang mga butyl rubber type deadeing material that has a aluminum layer.

    With regards on using the filters on your amp or HU. You neither use one of them since your speakers comes with passive filters already. Just turn off the HPF on the HU and set the the filters of the amp to off or all pass. If the amplifier does not come with the option of setting the filters to off or all pass, leave the settings to HPF.

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    #1912
    Quote Originally Posted by markygy View Post
    Tanong mo sa seller if the more expensive type has a aluminum layer. Yun mga generic type like the acoustipad you mentioned does not have aluminum layer. Mas malinis at mas heat resistant ang mga butyl rubber type deadeing material that has a aluminum layer.

    With regards on using the filters on your amp or HU. You neither use one of them since your speakers comes with passive filters already. Just turn off the HPF on the HU and set the the filters of the amp to off or all pass. If the amplifier does not come with the option of setting the filters to off or all pass, leave the settings to HPF.
    Yung Acoustipad may variant siya na may aluminum layer and meron yung all black lang na material. I chose yung may alumnum layer and consume 2.5 sheets per door.

    Thanks, will try this later. Current setup ko is naka On HPF sa HU front and rear and naka All Pass sa Amplifier. Front seps ko pala is Focal PS 165F and Sound Magus C160 4 channel amp and pioneer coax for the rear.

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    #1913
    what happens if you run an 8 ohm speaker with an amp with a 4 ohm output

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    #1914
    Quote Originally Posted by aprilboyidol View Post
    what happens if you run an 8 ohm speaker with an amp with a 4 ohm output
    Not a maximum power transfer...

    Assuming 12v, power on the speaker will be 64/8 or 8W... Vs 4 ohm speaker with power of 36/4 or 9W...

    Should be "okay"

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    #1915
    Quote Originally Posted by aprilboyidol View Post
    what happens if you run an 8 ohm speaker with an amp with a 4 ohm output
    The 8ohm speaker will recieve half of the rated power output the amp gives *4ohms. If for example the amp gives 100watts *4ohms, a 8ohm speaker will only get 50watts. This is because a 8ohm speaker has double the RESISTANCE of a 4ohm speaker.

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    #1916
    Thanks, will try this later. Current setup ko is naka On HPF sa HU front and rear and naka All Pass sa Amplifier. Front seps ko pala is Focal PS 165F and Sound Magus C160 4 channel amp and pioneer coax for the rear.[/QUOTE]

    Yes bro try to notice the performance of the midbass after.

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    #1917
    Speaker impedance is not fixed. It changes with frequency. An 8 ohm speaker may be 8 ohms now, but could change to 2 ohms in an instance and 16 ohms in another instance. Same goes with 4 ohms speakers.

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    Last edited by red_one; May 8th, 2016 at 02:09 PM.

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    #1918
    may negative effect po ba sa amp or speaker kapag ganun setup magkaiba ohms .... salamat

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    #1919
    Quote Originally Posted by aprilboyidol View Post
    may negative effect po ba sa amp or speaker kapag ganun setup magkaiba ohms .... salamat
    Nope normal speaker characteristic yan. Wag lang sobra underpowered yung speaker for a long time. Kung normal listening level, walang problem in most cases.

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    #1920
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    Nope normal speaker characteristic yan. Wag lang sobra underpowered yung speaker for a long time. Kung normal listening level, walang problem in most cases.

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    There's nothing wrong with a speaker being underpowered. What's dangerous is when you do the opposite -- overpowering (aka turning the volume knob as if you're trying for 180dB) as it leads to mechanical failures (ex. burnt coils, etc.)

    What's dangerous is an uninformed person having a low-wattage amplifier. More often than not, he's turning the volume all the way up and then damaging the poor speaker in the process.

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