audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[Egan101]

Thanks bro. lubusin ko na ha since i got your attention, how's the quality (durability) of the phoenix brand?

Di naman basta-basta nasisira yung amps basta properly installed. Kung di mo naman i-max-out yung gains ng output, no chances of it burning out. Also, branded amps have their quality checks so it will not be as unreliable as those unbranded V12s common in the market.

Saan mo ba gagamitin yung class D amp? For loud purposes ba? Mas malakas kasi output ng class D kasi less yung power loss. If you're looking for just in-car listening with focus on sound quality, you can always count on class A/B amps, specially from noted manufacturers like DLS, Focal, Rockford Fosgate, Audison, etc. A friend from NB before created an award-winning SQ setup using class A/B amps (Genesis) for his seps and used a class D mono amp (Alpine PDX) for his sub.

[monty_GTV]

Whats the cheapest class d amp with about 70w/ch 4 channel? And 200watts mono narin for the sub? Thanks

cheapest 5ch i know is yung JBL GTO series 5355 55Wx4 + 225x1

check mo din bro yung DLS Reference CC-4 70Wx4 saka DLS CC-2 170x2. maliliit lang na amp yan, nakita ko sa friend ko sa ilalim ng upuan. he's running full active with it and maganda din tumunog...

kay bro jonz sa simplesounds, audison SR4+SR1D at SR5 usually mga gamit na amps sa installations niya...

i'm using PG SD800.5 sa kotse ko, may konting noise sabi ni bro jonz pero di naman dinig sa untrained ear ko

[mda]

What should I expect in replacing stock speakers on a car?

Sira na yung isa, will need to replace the front pair with the most basic ones I can find.

a) How much should I prepare?
b) Will stock wiring handle this?
c) Any splicing involved, or are there plug and play sockets?

[Egan101]

^^^ Class A/B yung JBL GTO5355 at DLS CC amps.

[ninjababez]

Di naman basta-basta nasisira yung amps basta properly installed. Kung di mo naman i-max-out yung gains ng output, no chances of it burning out. Also, branded amps have their quality checks so it will not be as unreliable as those unbranded V12s common in the market.

Saan mo ba gagamitin yung class D amp? For loud purposes ba? Mas malakas kasi output ng class D kasi less yung power loss. If you're looking for just in-car listening with focus on sound quality, you can always count on class A/B amps, specially from noted manufacturers like DLS, Focal, Rockford Fosgate, Audison, etc. A friend from NB before created an award-winning SQ setup using class A/B amps (Genesis) for his seps and used a class D mono amp (Alpine PDX) for his sub.

These are the options i can afford (if available)

Sound Magus H500 12,500.00
JBL GT0 Series- 5355 /5Ch.Amplifier 12,185.00
Lightning Audio LA-51000 13,400.00
Phoenix Gold SD-Series Amplifier SD800.5 16,500.00
Precision Power Sedona Class Amplifier S580.5 11,900.00

i would really love to get the all class D channels, as i want effeciency more than anything else.
they say class d is on the harsh side; but ive listened to class d amps in home theater setup, sounds fine for me.

eto kaya good deal na ba for 5.5k?
https://www.*******/item/q-car-amplif...126#037f9d6126

[ninjababez]

cheapest 5ch i know is yung JBL GTO series 5355 55Wx4 + 225x1

check mo din bro yung DLS Reference CC-4 70Wx4 saka DLS CC-2 170x2. maliliit lang na amp yan, nakita ko sa friend ko sa ilalim ng upuan. he's running full active with it and maganda din tumunog...

kay bro jonz sa simplesounds, audison SR4+SR1D at SR5 usually mga gamit na amps sa installations niya...

i'm using PG SD800.5 sa kotse ko, may konting noise sabi ni bro jonz pero di naman dinig sa untrained ear ko

siguro dahil mas poise lang class A/B pagdating sa distortion, and mas evident naman sa class D?
i dont think magkaroon ng noise yung amp kung OK naman ang speaker/amp matching tapos di i-overdrive like what Egan101 said.
iirc i met with jonz already bro, marikina eb; nahihiya lang ako magtanong din dun kasi hi-end mga setup nila

[ninjababez]

btw here's what i have right now
"Alpine V12 4 channel"*fake obviously lol.. bridge for subwoofer duties (with broken power ic)
JL Audio 12W3v3 (sub)
JBL GT5-652 (rear)
cant see the front speakers yet, will update soon

[ninjababez]

Decided not to use the 12" JLW3 sub
Ok lang ba or meron ba 6" woofer lang, para ilagay ko sa rear?

[monty_GTV]

^^^ Class A/B yung JBL GTO5355 at DLS CC amps.

i see, class D nga pala hinahanap ni sir ninja na amp

Decided not to use the 12" JLW3 sub
Ok lang ba or meron ba 6" woofer lang, para ilagay ko sa rear?

sir ninja, are you letting go of your jl w3? if so, pm mo ako baka pwede ko ilipat sa likod ng monty ko...

meron naman mga 6" na woofer, check mo sa website ng mickey's. yung mga nagkakabit ng 6" instead na sa rear, sa kickpanel sa front nila inilalagay..

[Egan101]

Decided not to use the 12" JLW3 sub
Ok lang ba or meron ba 6" woofer lang, para ilagay ko sa rear?

Keep the subwoofer and forget about the rear speakers. You can attain a decent sounding audio setup with a good set of seps and a subwoofer.

[Mguy]

Keep the subwoofer and forget about the rear speakers. You can attain a decent sounding audio setup with a good set of seps and a subwoofer.

But what if I want to attain good SQ all around the cabin? I'm also overhauling my CRV's sound system and will replace the head unit first. Although currently at the front its ok, the back is a bit terrible. If changing the HU will not improve this, I will change all 4 speakers, if budget allows me. If not, probably the rear speakers because it is really crap.

Do I really need subwoofers or can't i just upgrade the speakers at the back with a bit more ooomph? Thanks.

[mortis]

But what if I want to attain good SQ all around the cabin? I'm also overhauling my CRV's sound system and will replace the head unit first. Although currently at the front its ok, the back is a bit terrible. If changing the HU will not improve this, I will change all 4 speakers, if budget allows me. If not, probably the rear speakers because it is really crap.

Do I really need subwoofers or can't i just upgrade the speakers at the back with a bit more ooomph? Thanks.

First advise sq gurus give is not to upgrade the rear speakers, and nost would even disconnect it. The principle is that when listening you normally like the sound stage to be up front and center. Normally you would like rear sounds only for movies...

The subs would be able to produce lower frequency sounds that your rear speakers either wont play or would play poorly. Downside with subs is that they eat up space. Suggest you consider this. For me I opted to use a customized fiberglass enclosure created by Jonz of simplesounds. More expensive than the regular mdf box, but it allowed me to have trunk space. Di halata ni mrs na may subs kaya happy wife, happy life.. He he

[sientobente]

These are the options i can afford (if available)

Sound Magus H500 12,500.00
JBL GT0 Series- 5355 /5Ch.Amplifier 12,185.00
Lightning Audio LA-51000 13,400.00
Phoenix Gold SD-Series Amplifier SD800.5 16,500.00
Precision Power Sedona Class Amplifier S580.5 11,900.00

i would really love to get the all class D channels, as i want effeciency more than anything else.
they say class d is on the harsh side; but ive listened to class d amps in home theater setup, sounds fine for me.

eto kaya good deal na ba for 5.5k?
https://www.*******/item/q-car-amplif...126#037f9d6126

Yaman talaga ni idol oh!

[Egan101]

First advise sq gurus give is not to upgrade the rear speakers, and nost would even disconnect it. The principle is that when listening you normally like the sound stage to be up front and center. Normally you would like rear sounds only for movies...

The subs would be able to produce lower frequency sounds that your rear speakers either wont play or would play poorly. Downside with subs is that they eat up space. Suggest you consider this. For me I opted to use a customized fiberglass enclosure created by Jonz of simplesounds. More expensive than the regular mdf box, but it allowed me to have trunk space. Di halata ni mrs na may subs kaya happy wife, happy life.. He he

+1

In car audio, there is more emphasis on sound coming from the front. In tuning, most would have their car audio system front-biased. The rear speakers will not help in such a case. If using more capable head units with time alignment, you can tune it better to your preference.

Using only a good set of separates and subwoofer, you can filter the high, mid, and low frequencies to be played by the tweeters, midbass, and subwoofer. They would be enough to have that decent listening experience inside your car.

[ninjababez]

Yaman talaga ni idol oh!

puro budget amps nga tinitignan eh

[Glenn Viñas]

Mga masters, I'm new to the car audio stuff. Nagpunta ako sa isang audio shop dito sa Abu Dhabi at mga pinoy naman ang tao dun. Sabi ko gusto ko lang mag upgrade ng sound system from stock Honda CRV 2015. Eto ang inilagay nila:

DD C5D amp > Gladen RS 165 fronts + Gladen 165 RS rears
DD m.80 amp > DD 512c D2 sub
Still using stock Head Unit ( 2din touch screen) from Honda CRV 2015. Planning to upgrade to Pioneer AVH-X2850BT in the next 2months
added sound deadening (roadkill stinger) also on all five doors.

Ask ko lang kung ok na ba siya sa entry level SQ setup? First impressions ko e ang laking improvement from stock pero expecting more improvement kapag nagpalit na ako ng head unit.

[ninjababez]

san makakabili nito locally 6W3v3-4 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Drivers - W3v3 - JL Audio

or kung may jbl couterpart ba ito?

thanks!

btw anyone knows the size of stock speakers of 1st gen vios?

[Egan101]

san makakabili nito locally 6W3v3-4 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Drivers - W3v3 - JL Audio

or kung may jbl couterpart ba ito?

thanks!

btw anyone knows the size of stock speakers of 1st gen vios?

Dami naman mapagpilian na locally available na JL subwoofers. Mas mahal nga lang yan sa JBL.

Puwede ka rin bumili ng Rockford Fosgate, Digital Designs, Focal, DLS, etc.

[markygy]

san makakabili nito locally 6W3v3-4 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Drivers - W3v3 - JL Audio

or kung may jbl couterpart ba ito?

thanks!

btw anyone knows the size of stock speakers of 1st gen vios?

Sa mickey's website meron sila niyan. Try giving them a call to check if it's available.
Afaik, JBL does not have 6" sub woofers.

Ayaw mo ba nang 8 inches? Daming pwede pag pilian pag 8".

[ninjababez]

Sa mickey's website meron sila niyan. Try giving them a call to check if it's available.
Afaik, JBL does not have 6" sub woofers.

Ayaw mo ba nang 8 inches? Daming pwede pag pilian pag 8".

Di na kasi kasya ang 8" sa rear bro eh
Planning to remove the jbl coax sa likod and replace it with a woofer.