"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

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Ito pala yong sinasabi ko na black part na nilinis ko pati yong loob nyan nabasa.

[sirkosero]

Ito pala yong sinasabi ko na black part na nilinis ko pati yong loob nyan nabasa.

okay lang yan. isipin mo na lang kung mainit sa labas at biglang umulan, ganyan din nangyayari.

[monty_GTV]

Thank you sa lahat ng replies...much appreciated...yong part malapit sa my plate no. na black na made of plastic binasa ko at nilinis kanina .ok lng ba na mabasa yong inner part non parang part na kasi ng makina yong nasa loob.but im.not sure kng part nga ng makina.nabasa kasi ng hose kanina ng pabanlaw na.ngayon takot akong paandarin ang kotse baka my sumabog.haha . Forgive me for such a noob question. Its my 1st time to wash my car.

you can wash the front grilles, wala naman problema yan. mababasa lang naman most likely yung radiator, no worries there na sasabog please read the beginning of the thread, you will learn a lot about properly washing your car. to minimize inducing swirls, invest and buy wash mitts to shampoo and lint free microfiber towels to dry and buff your car. yung microtex brand kumpleto yan. wash mitt, drying towel, terry, plush, ultra plush and suede para sa windows. don't just use a common rag/towel else magasgas lang paint mo at kakapitan ng lints...

[Flipo]

Medyo bago palang sya dito sa atin, pero sa US medyo matagal na. Sa mga detailing forums sa US, hindi rin sya masyado nababanggit or napag uusapan.

Nag search ako sa Bobistheoil, matagal na rin pala itong NU Finish more than 20 yrs. na, at durable naman daw, and work as paint protection as it is a synthetic sealant.
Ang cons nito ay di raw showroom car ang shine, and it smear the black vinyl trim of the car, but it last longer.

Pwede kayang pagpatungin dito ang TW ice liquid or TW ice spray, para sa kintab ng paint?

Tama din yung observation ni Flip.

[Kitoy22]

Nag search ako sa Bobistheoil, matagal na rin pala itong NU Finish more than 20 yrs. na, at durable naman daw, and work as paint protection as it is a synthetic sealant.
Ang cons nito ay di raw showroom car ang shine, and it smear the black vinyl trim of the car, but it last longer.

Pwede kayang pagpatungin dito ang TW ice liquid or TW ice spray, para sa kintab ng paint?

Tama din yung observation ni Flip.

Yes sir pwede, since ok din naman ang hydrophobic properties ng TW ice, ok lang din naman on top ito sa NU Finish.

[monty_GTV]

i wonder why most of the time people asked kung pwede pagpatungin ang mga LSP's ano ba purpose bakit kailangan pagpatung-patungin? for added durability ba or extra shine? or naparami ang bili ng sari-saring LSP's at gusto magamit ng sabay sabay?

instead na pagpatung-patungin, i suggest i-apply niyo na lang yung kada brand sa magkakaibang panel and compare the gloss/shine and test the durability of each LSP. pwede rin magiwan kayo ng isang panel na magkakapatong to further compare. check the result after every 1, 2, 3 washes kung alin talaga ang tumatagal ang kintab at protection. kung alam mo na ilang washes bago mag-subside yung isang brand, alam mo na kung kailan ka magre-apply. very time consuming kasi mag-apply ng magkakapatong na LSP. why bother to apply so many LSP kung isang brand lang sufficient na to protect the paint for how many washes. just my opinion...

[DarkMatter]

i wonder why most of the time people asked kung pwede pagpatungin ang mga LSP's ano ba purpose bakit kailangan pagpatung-patungin? for added durability ba or extra shine? or naparami ang bili ng sari-saring LSP's at gusto magamit ng sabay sabay?

instead na pagpatung-patungin, i suggest i-apply niyo na lang yung kada brand sa magkakaibang panel and compare the gloss/shine and test the durability of each LSP. pwede rin magiwan kayo ng isang panel na magkakapatong to further compare. check the result after every 1, 2, 3 washes kung alin talaga ang tumatagal ang kintab at protection. kung alam mo na ilang washes bago mag-subside yung isang brand, alam mo na kung kailan ka magre-apply. very time consuming kasi mag-apply ng magkakapatong na LSP. why bother to apply so many LSP kung isang brand lang sufficient na to protect the paint for how many washes. just my opinion...

Agree sir and very well stated. Application on different panels with different brands solved the "product confusion" for me in the early days. This way ko na-distinguish yung performance ng bawat isa (I have 3 LSPs back then) at sayo ko din ata nabasa tong technique from the previous pages
Ngayon, inuubos ko pa yung1 LSP ko dahil sayang din naman then try a new product na lang kapag ubos na.
Siguro dala na rin ng sobrang daming products ngayon kaya napaparami ang bili ng LSP which leads to confusion.

[lpasuncion]

Yes sir pwede, since ok din naman ang hydrophobic properties ng TW ice, ok lang din naman on top ito sa NU Finish.

I tried before yung NU Finish polish yung nasa orange bottle and i am not impressed. Durability is not that good. About sa TW Ice, nag try ako ng spray wax and na-appreciate ko sya though di naman ako umaasa sa durability pero yung shine nya at yung feel, smooth at makintab talaga

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Yes sir pwede, since ok din naman ang hydrophobic properties ng TW ice, ok lang din naman on top ito sa NU Finish.

I tried before yung NU Finish polish yung nasa orange bottle and i am not impressed. Durability is not that good. About sa TW Ice, nag try ako ng spray wax and na-appreciate ko sya though di naman ako umaasa sa durability pero yung shine nya at yung feel, smooth at makintab talaga

[Flipo]

i wonder why most of the time people asked kung pwede pagpatungin ang mga LSP's ano ba purpose bakit kailangan pagpatung-patungin? for added durability ba or extra shine? or naparami ang bili ng sari-saring LSP's at gusto magamit ng sabay sabay?

instead na pagpatung-patungin, i suggest i-apply niyo na lang yung kada brand sa magkakaibang panel and compare the gloss/shine and test the durability of each LSP. pwede rin magiwan kayo ng isang panel na magkakapatong to further compare. check the result after every 1, 2, 3 washes kung alin talaga ang tumatagal ang kintab at protection. kung alam mo na ilang washes bago mag-subside yung isang brand, alam mo na kung kailan ka magre-apply. very time consuming kasi mag-apply ng magkakapatong na LSP. why bother to apply so many LSP kung isang brand lang sufficient na to protect the paint for how many washes. just my opinion...

Sir monty, pareho bang LSP yung NU Finish at TW ice liquid/spray?

Nabasa ko kasi sa Bitog, na yung NU Finish is a sealant and it also is one of the longest lasting "waxes" on the market if not the longest lasting. It does not shine the best but it protects really well and is very durable.last longer, but the shine sucks.

Kaya naisip ko na ito ang base at patungan ng TW ice spray para may kintab, at parang may gumawa nito sa Bitog, I'm not sure though.
Pareho kasing mura ang mga ito. hehe

[monty_GTV]

Sir monty, pareho bang LSP yung NU Finish at TW ice liquid/spray?

if its mentioned na sealant then last step product nga siya. the secret of the "kintab" is yung preparation ng paint surface, kung paano mo inalis yung defects due to contaminants at mga gasgas. kung na polished at na prepped ng mabuti ay natural na makintab na yan. nilalagyan mo lang ng LSP para lang maprotektahan o mapreserve yung surface ng pintura. although ma-enhance pa lalo ang kintab dahil sa synthetic properties ng sealant o natural oil ng carnauba wax. mapa stand alone o magkakapatong-patong ok lang yan, very time consuming lang at confusing kapag marami nilalagay try mo yung NU finish sa roof at hood ng sasakayan mo, then yung TW spray naman sa whole body, then yung rear panel magkapatong na NU/TW spray. then test kung alin ang longest lasting at mas durable.

[Ginnova]

I have used several wax / sealant combo and even put multiple layers but it just takes so much effort doing the routine every few months or so.
I have switched to coatings a year ago and never looked back.

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Thank you sa lahat ng replies...

[Kitoy22]

i wonder why most of the time people asked kung pwede pagpatungin ang mga LSP's ano ba purpose bakit kailangan pagpatung-patungin? for added durability ba or extra shine? or naparami ang bili ng sari-saring LSP's at gusto magamit ng sabay sabay?

instead na pagpatung-patungin, i suggest i-apply niyo na lang yung kada brand sa magkakaibang panel and compare the gloss/shine and test the durability of each LSP. pwede rin magiwan kayo ng isang panel na magkakapatong to further compare. check the result after every 1, 2, 3 washes kung alin talaga ang tumatagal ang kintab at protection. kung alam mo na ilang washes bago mag-subside yung isang brand, alam mo na kung kailan ka magre-apply. very time consuming kasi mag-apply ng magkakapatong na LSP. why bother to apply so many LSP kung isang brand lang sufficient na to protect the paint for how many washes. just my opinion...

Haha! Onga, I think I posted something dito talking about this, na if you just want durability from your LSP, just re-apply it frequently.

Na uso lang naman yung pag layer ng wax sa sealant since yung iba ayaw ng kintab ng sealant na somewhat sabi nila e parang my nakabalot na plastic, unlike waxes na deep gloss ang dating.

Kaya for show cars, depending sa kulay ng paint, i just layer wax up to three times kung kaya for depth, and I pick a specific wax for this. I only do this for visual purposes. Pero kung protection, i will go for a 476 or klasse twins.

[Kitoy22]

I have used several wax / sealant combo and even put multiple layers but it just takes so much effort doing the routine every few months or so.
I have switched to coatings a year ago and never looked back.

Coudn't have said it better, kung paint protection lang, nothing will beat this. Although minsan nakaka missdin mag wax on- wax off, hehe

[benchman]

happy na ako sa megs gold class carnauba wax then ONR occasionally. madalang na lang akong mag-shampoo, kung sobrang dumi na talaga like dumaan sa long drive na maulan.
in my case; megs carnauba could last for +3mos along with ONR. it's not daily driven though.

[celine]

Coudn't have said it better, kung paint protection lang, nothing will beat this. Although minsan nakaka missdin mag wax on- wax off, hehe

I think ito mas bagay sakin. Although i dont understand fully yong process, ano po bang tawag sa procedure na ito? Sobrang busy ng sched ko. I wanna take care of my car pero hindi kakayanin ng oras at effort ko kng almost every week/ month mgwawax ako. Mas swak cguro sakin to.

[Flipo]

if its mentioned na sealant then last step product nga siya. the secret of the "kintab" is yung preparation ng paint surface, kung paano mo inalis yung defects due to contaminants at mga gasgas. kung na polished at na prepped ng mabuti ay natural na makintab na yan. nilalagyan mo lang ng LSP para lang maprotektahan o mapreserve yung surface ng pintura. although ma-enhance pa lalo ang kintab dahil sa synthetic properties ng sealant o natural oil ng carnauba wax. mapa stand alone o magkakapatong-patong ok lang yan, very time consuming lang at confusing kapag marami nilalagay try mo yung NU finish sa roof at hood ng sasakayan mo, then yung TW spray naman sa whole body, then yung rear panel magkapatong na NU/TW spray. then test kung alin ang longest lasting at mas durable.

Thank's bro for the clarification, and to others who shared their experiences and knowledge!

[mcbry]

I have used several wax / sealant combo and even put multiple layers but it just takes so much effort doing the routine every few months or so.
I have switched to coatings a year ago and never looked back.

paano po nilalagay yung coating, sir?
i'm new to this coating but very much interested to know how this works dahil time consuming talaga yung wax/sealant combo. i'm using Mother's step 2 and Collinite 845 combo.

[red_one]

paano po nilalagay yung coating, sir?
i'm new to this coating but very much interested to know how this works dahil time consuming talaga yung wax/sealant combo. i'm using Mother's step 2 and Collinite 845 combo.

Paint coating is LSP rin so yung procedure is the same.

Wash > Clay > Compound > Polish > IPA Wipe > Paint Coating

Pero mas critical ang surface prep for paint coating dahil whatever imperfection is left will remain there as long as the paint coating exists. Paint coating is like a second clear coat layer. It is hard coating.

For wax/sealant, kahit may maiwan kang scratch/swirl/blemish sa isang panel, pwede mo balikan to correct and re-apply wax/sealant on that panel.

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paano po nilalagay yung coating, sir?
i'm new to this coating but very much interested to know how this works dahil time consuming talaga yung wax/sealant combo. i'm using Mother's step 2 and Collinite 845 combo.

Paint coating is LSP rin so yung procedure is the same.

Wash > Clay > Compound > Polish > IPA Wipe > Paint Coating

Pero mas critical ang surface prep for paint coating dahil whatever imperfection is left will remain there as long as the paint coating exists. Paint coating is like a second clear coat layer. It is hard coating.

For wax/sealant, kahit may maiwan kang scratch/swirl/blemish sa isang panel, pwede mo balikan to correct and re-apply wax/sealant on that panel.

[Kitoy22]

I think ito mas bagay sakin. Although i dont understand fully yong process, ano po bang tawag sa procedure na ito? Sobrang busy ng sched ko. I wanna take care of my car pero hindi kakayanin ng oras at effort ko kng almost every week/ month mgwawax ako. Mas swak cguro sakin to.

As sir red one has said, is pretty the same, and just to add, since these LSP's are more expensive than your typical wax and sealant, you want them to perform as advertised, aside from the imperfections than may be concealed below the coating,it is also important to note, in order for coating to last as they claim, paint should be oil free, to ensure that the coating will perfectly bond with the paint and ensure that it will last 1-2 years. That is why there is an IPA wipe stated by sir red one before application of the coating, in short surface paint preparation is the key, along with the proper application process.