"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[_Cathy_]

After po ba ng collinite ok lang maglagay ng nanosliq?

This is what I do.

[rayj012502]

hi cathy hindi kasi masyado halata kasi gabi ko nakuhaan ng picture makikita niyo lang habang ginagawa siya. pwede ko meetup kahit saang car wash para makita niyo pag nilinis na tubig lang talaga gagamitin. along makati, pasay, paranaque, manila at part ng q.c na malapit lang para iwas traffic pag pauwi na ko

[MonteroGLSV]

Sir monty po unit ko white, 2012 model so hindi ko pa cya napadetail simula noong binili ko pero minsan ginagamitan ko meguiars then manual punas lang,
covered naman po ung parking ko kaya ayos pa nmn paint nya makinis except sa roof may gaspang ng kunti.
Please pm po be how much. cavite area po. home service

hindi na po kelangan ipa detail. basta kelangan lang maganda pa paint ng car mo anyway ano ba car mo? kung may light scratches matatanggal din gagawin kong business dito sa pinas business to ng japanese kong friend sa japan depende sa car ang rate and kahit sa place mo pwede namin puntahan dun natin gawin dadalin ko din innova ko para makita mo result. mura lang muna to kasi iniintroduce pa namin may mga nagawan na din kami kung interesado ka text me lang Moderator Snip pwede ko pakita innova ko kahit hindi ka magpapagawa.

[rayj012502]

sir kung light scratches un parang hairline sisiw yan wag lang mga lubog talaga kahit rubbing hindi na kakayanin un. for montero malaki kasi yan regular price nyan mga 18k pero iniintroduce pa lang namin mga 6k na lang presyo ko sayo saka home service pa pasay pa ko sir. if you want kung mapapadaan ka dito along macapagal may carwash dun tayo meetup para makita mo innova ko na naka glass coat water lang gagamitin pag nilinis

[MonteroGLSV]

okey sir thanks, i'll let you know, wla po kasi me pinas now. pm me na lang po sample pic ng innova nyo sir or post here para makita nmn ng iba. contact ko po kayo once dyan na me pinas soon..

[rayj012502]

okay sir yung picture po kasi hindi halata glass coating at gabi na nun nakuhaan ko kaya kahit may ilaw hindi halata pero anyway post ko pa din para may idea kayo pano ginagawa

[_Cathy_]

sir kung light scratches un parang hairline sisiw yan wag lang mga lubog talaga kahit rubbing hindi na kakayanin un. for montero malaki kasi yan regular price nyan mga 18k pero iniintroduce pa lang namin mga 6k na lang presyo ko sayo saka home service pa pasay pa ko sir. if you want kung mapapadaan ka dito along macapagal may carwash dun tayo meetup para makita mo innova ko na naka glass coat water lang gagamitin pag nilinis

Can you post pics of your Innova? Thanks

[rayj012502]

nakapost na kung mapapansin mo yung reflection ng light sa hood malinaw yun lang proof ko sa ngayon na makintab siya

[MonteroGLSV]

curious lang po me sir pano ung application neto. is this same as wax then buff? that's it? how long po to complete one car?

[rayj012502]

wash then apply rubbing pero manipis to remove hairline scratches wash uli pag natuyo hindi pwede hawakan kasi apply na ng glass coating. usually pag kotse 6-7 hours pag medium to large 9-10 hours un innova ko 2pm nagstart 11pm natapos. maselan gawin pero maganda result

[monty_GTV]

nakapost na kung mapapansin mo yung reflection ng light sa hood malinaw yun lang proof ko sa ngayon na makintab siya

kapag ba naka glass coating hindi na magkaka-swirls? how many months or years itatagal nung coating? TIA

[jhnkvn]

Okay, so we're clear: I have no problems in people advertising their services (in fact, I encourage it for more DIY detailers) but I do have a problem with false advertising. This is why I'll take my time to type this post even if it's 3:30AM in the morning.

The best paint protection program will be one that is consistent. This is why I will always prefer a regimen over a single-use product. All these advertised "permanent" coatings may seem dazzling and present hard to swallow claims but any experienced detailer would know that defects such as swirl marks cannot be prevented by these coatings.

You can think of them as long-lasting protection sealants. But that's about it.

Most of the products are out-of-reach of the local market. Unless you're a fan of importing products, dalawa lang yun meron sa atin domestically. These is Optimum's Opticoat and 3D's NitroSeal. Once you have the ability to import, you have a ton more choices. So what are these products? The most well-known among them is Optimum's Opticoat. You could say it's the pioneer of this product line. Others include CQuartz Finest, HD NitroSeal, Wolf's Hard Body, G Guard, G Technique, etc.

Most of these products deep down just consists of silicon bonded with another molecule. Thus all of them are ceramics. Most products are of glass -- silicon dioxide.. Opti-coat is silicon carbide.. while HD NitroSeal is simply a extremely long sealant. Before people shoot out "glass" isn't a ceramic, don't.

Now the questions..

How long will it last?
It will always depend on your car care. Anything that guarantees a duration is BS. What if I have a car that's a garage queen? The other being exposed to elements 24/7? Or one that's near the sea? How do you guarantee those variables?

Besides, all protection is crap if your paint is dead. All I have to do is have 100 bird droppings land on that panel, bask it in the sun, and let's see if any of your protection will help your paint.

(!) Bird Dropping Fact: Bird droppings aren't dangerous because of a bird's uric acid thrown into its droppings but on how the droppings interact with your paint and the sun. Your problem is more of contraction and expansion of the paint molecules.

Is it scratch-proof?
No. It's scratch resistant due to a higher moss resistance level. That's all. But if a rock goes hurling at you 100km/h at SCTEX and scratches your paint. Kahit ano gawin mo, you'll still need to polish and compound to level the paint and remove that scratch.

And... kahit wala ka nilagay sa paint mo, you can still use water to clean up your paint. Who says kilangan lagi may lubricant? Hell.. I wash my car using water at times just to remove light dirt if needed. This is the tamang OC thread.. not the super-hyper-mega OC thread.

So what happens to most cars with these products after a year?
After one year, the protection is still alive and kicking. But your paint layer is scratched because meron tumagos sa protection layer mo. Congratulations! Kahit ano gawin mo, you're still going to paint correct if you want to join a car show.

The better route? In one year: do one 2/3 step detail and 3 quarters of paint protection (wax/sealants) of a durable product.

[monty_GTV]

The better route? In one year: do one 2/3 step detail and 3 quarters of paint protection (wax/sealants) of a durable product.

very well said sir jhnkvn...

you reminded me, i need to do my quarterly paint protection regimen na pala this month. just in time for the coming rainy season...

[rayj012502]

sir monty_GTV ang claim nun japanese friend ko na nag introduce sa akin ng glass coating more than 5 years na daw sa auto niya okay pa naman daw. ayon din sa kanya basically daw ang glass coat ay protection from paint fading d daw agad magfefade, yung kintab daw para hindi na mag wax, protection from hairline scratches at para daw tipid pag naglinis water na lang gagamitin kahit gaano kadumi ang kotse pero kung medyo madikit ang dumi like grease or asphalt meron din product pang alis nun. malaking company sila sa japan gusto nila mag expand dito sa pinas kasi kilala na daw sila sa thailand and indonesia

[rayj012502]

at almost 2 months na yun glass coat sa innova ko so far wala pa naman swirl marks. at madami sila products pang kotse kaso eto pa lang un inintroduce nila

[Yuki13]

sir monty_GTV ang claim nun japanese friend ko na nag introduce sa akin ng glass coating more than 5 years na daw sa auto niya okay pa naman daw. ayon din sa kanya basically daw ang glass coat ay protection from paint fading d daw agad magfefade, yung kintab daw para hindi na mag wax, protection from hairline scratches at para daw tipid pag naglinis water na lang gagamitin kahit gaano kadumi ang kotse pero kung medyo madikit ang dumi like grease or asphalt meron din product pang alis nun. malaking company sila sa japan gusto nila mag expand dito sa pinas kasi kilala na daw sila sa thailand and indonesia

bro ano name ng japanese company?

[rayj012502]

sir eto e-catalog nun products nun japanese company paki check na lang. https://yoctfs.jp/res/box-l-ho5mylpl...A5MDcyMjRjZA--

[jhnkvn]

1. No product will last for 5 years guaranteed.
Kung ayaw mo maniwala, give me a sample and we'll bet 7 digits on it. Nothing like testing a couple of chemicals on it. Like I said, too many variables kasi yan. It's impossible to guarantee these variables.

2. Impossible not to have swirl marks on a daily-driven car. I know since one of our cars has Opticoat on it.

3. Gloss is the result of a prepped surface. I've never had a person correctly guess what wax or sealant I am using even if I'm using a cheap Meg' M16 or an expensive Pinnacle Souveran. As long as your paint is defect-free, it'll shine. Every thing else people worry about waxes: color depth, gloss, reflectivity, sheeting, etc. are quite subjective. My tip for people looking at waxes: ease of use, price, durability.

4. If you plan on introducing this, pay attention on pricing and preparation. Since lahat yan isa lang habol mo: a great prep. And this is where you pay the skills of the detailer. If the prep sucks, patay ka once you throw in the coating.

For everything else, autogeek has an article for coatings: How To Apply a Car Paint Coating

[rayj012502]

2 months na yun glass coat sa auto ko wala pang swirl marks eto ay ayon sa experience ko at yun 5 years guaranteed ayon naman dun sa japanese hindi naman ako namimilit na may maniwala ito po ay ayon sa experience lamang wala naman problema kung ayaw maniwala at experinced detailer ang mag aapply para sure na maganda ang result

[rayj012502]

2 months na yun glass coat sa auto ko wala pang swirl marks eto ay ayon sa experience ko at yun 5 years guaranteed ayon naman dun sa japanese hindi naman ako namimilit na may maniwala ito po ay ayon sa experience lamang wala naman problema kung ayaw maniwala at experinced detailer ang mag aapply para sure na maganda ang result.