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[madkatz]

*chickselog: I think i got my Red Carpet Tire Cream from BB for 175 bucks, and one plastic container already goes a long way since you use this sparingly i doubt its imported but as far as i know only BB sells this stuff, I got my Mothers Tire Shines from the US when i had a balikbayan box filled up with detailing materials and there's i think 3 kinds of Tire Shine from Mothers, but basically they're all the same for me. I think i saw a FX Tire Shine for 500+ bucks at SNR last time i was there.

As for the Simple Green you could search their website for the different dilution ratio's but for your problem i would suggest you try a 1 part solution 4 part water concentration to try it on your wiper, as for cleaning the interior you could go up to 1:10 and its still quite strong. i personnally use 3 different kinds of dilutions, 1:4 for those tough stains, 1:10 for interior carpet and other high use areas, 1:15 for plastics and vinyl and other easier to clean items.

[Chikselog]

*chickselog: I think i got my Red Carpet Tire Cream from BB for 175 bucks, and one plastic container already goes a long way since you use this sparingly i doubt its imported but as far as i know only BB sells this stuff, I got my Mothers Tire Shines from the US when i had a balikbayan box filled up with detailing materials and there's i think 3 kinds of Tire Shine from Mothers, but basically they're all the same for me. I think i saw a FX Tire Shine for 500+ bucks at SNR last time i was there.

As for the Simple Green you could search their website for the different dilution ratio's but for your problem i would suggest you try a 1 part solution 4 part water concentration to try it on your wiper, as for cleaning the interior you could go up to 1:10 and its still quite strong. i personnally use 3 different kinds of dilutions, 1:4 for those tough stains, 1:10 for interior carpet and other high use areas, 1:15 for plastics and vinyl and other easier to clean items.

175 bucks only?? Wow..How big is the container of the Tire Cream? Grabe ang dami palang pwedeng bilhin sa BB at very affordable pa..

Which looks better po? As you said on your reply to mikoboi, Tire Cream from BB makes your tires look bnew, Armorall on the tires or the Tire Cream by BB? If only I had time, pumunta na talaga ako dun sa BB to check out the items that they sell..

Hmm, how do you measure po the dilution of the Simple Green? I hope that 1:4 will already remove the watermarks on the wiper arm and restore the trims to black again..

May nakatabi kasi akong newer vios sa parking, wala pa syang plaka, kinumpara ko yung wiper arm and trim, ang layo ng difference

Anyways thanks po muli

[Chikselog]

triple post..sorry

[Chikselog]

triple post! sorry may topak ang firefox

[madkatz]

*chickselog: Just measure it using small measuring cups or small containers, what i do is i use a measuring cup and fill up 1 liter containers at home with the different dilution ratio's that i use which are the 3 i've mentioned, and then when one plastic liter container is finished i just move the spray bottle head to the next.

I asked some of my friends that are in the car scene and some if not most of them just have the wiper parts repainted and this time with a thick coat of clear coat, they say its not expensive and it looks really nice way better than having it re-dyed where if you have it re-dyed chances are it would become white again, but thats what they said

As for the tires question my votes would definitely go to the Tire Cream, its not that big actually but its enough to cover a lot and i mean a lot.

[Chikselog]

*chickselog: Just measure it using small measuring cups or small containers, what i do is i use a measuring cup and fill up 1 liter containers at home with the different dilution ratio's that i use which are the 3 i've mentioned, and then when one plastic liter container is finished i just move the spray bottle head to the next.

I asked some of my friends that are in the car scene and some if not most of them just have the wiper parts repainted and this time with a thick coat of clear coat, they say its not expensive and it looks really nice way better than having it re-dyed where if you have it re-dyed chances are it would become white again, but thats what they said

As for the tires question my votes would definitely go to the Tire Cream, its not that big actually but its enough to cover a lot and i mean a lot.

Alright..! Many Thanks again!

[madkatz]

*jmpet626: i have tried them already, its more like black and blue for applying sealants and waxes, and you could also use these pads for jeweling the paint using finishing polishes, where red and gold is softer and could be used to jewel the paint by using ultra fine finishing polishes and applying waxes and sealants. Its more like Red and Gold are just softer versions of Black and Blue where they are a lot safer at the process of jeweling as compared the their black and blue counter parts, sadly it looks like red and gold are mainly effective if used by rotary as compared to DA's. I've actually compared the results i had before during my trial paint jeweling, done without that much guides and knowledge BTW, i actually had better results with the blue pad with a rotary as compared to the gold pad with a pc.

Basically the black blue and red pads are actually pretty much the same for me, i really can't even differentiate any significant difference, the gold in a way is slightly and noticeably softer. the black, blue and red pads are basically good for finishing polishes since they have very minimal cut and using these pads with finishing polishes will still remove paint but on a very very low cut level already, as for the gold pad i guess its the same with the red blue and black but lets just say that the gold has a very long working time. with a rotary it already takes a long time to burnish the paint to a high gloss what more with a PC, it took me a long time to completely work my finishing polish with a PC and getting the right amount of polish along side with the area to be worked with was also something i had to learn the hard way. Honestly right now im so happy just with the black pad and its performance that its all that i used since mid December, One thing i noticed from the red blue and gold pads are that they actually tend to hold a lot more wax or polish inside the foam, so better be careful in applying too much cause any increase in pressure might release polishes that are not broken down completely and these might even cause an uneven surface gloss for you. If i get to my jeweling project and i still don't see that much difference i just actually might sell my blue red and gold pads since so far i don't see any big difference with the black pad.

[madkatz]

found some sites to help you with your questions

http://www.lakecountrymfg.com/applicationguide/

then DL the pad application guide, you would notice that in the guide white pads are for polishes and black are for glazes, both blue and red fall in the same category and fall under polishes again so i guess it doesn't make that much difference, and the gold falls under pure waxes and sealants

and in here

http://www.pinnaclewax.com/lakecount...er-how-to.html

you would notice that the black red and blue all fall under one category which falls under final finishing so i guess its safe to say they really are pretty much the same, and as far as i know i haven't seen any final finishing or ultra fine finishing polishes available locally, and the only ones i have are Optimum polymers and Menzerna's which are all from the US. they didn't even classify gold in their page, so i guess gold is purely for applying waxes and sealants only and maybe buffing it to a high gloss, but then again you still have to follow this up with a MF, and one last tip, if you plan on jeweling your paint using the gold pad, always check it for dried waxes and sealants that cake or powder after each panel, this is the only problem i've encountered with the gold pad, since you have to work it longer chances are by the time you're done with one panel some pores have already started to harden or build up and these builds up can cause swirls yet again.

but again for me from black to gold, all of them are the same for me, try to check out jon's detail on the CRV using the black pad, the one when he used power polish and followed with reflections, the result was already like he jeweled the paint, its so clean and glossy.

[FasTrac]

found some sites to help you with your questions

http://www.lakecountrymfg.com/applicationguide/

then DL the pad application guide, you would notice that in the guide white pads are for polishes and black are for glazes, both blue and red fall in the same category and fall under polishes again so i guess it doesn't make that much difference, and the gold falls under pure waxes and sealants

and in here

http://www.pinnaclewax.com/lakecount...er-how-to.html

you would notice that the black red and blue all fall under one category which falls under final finishing so i guess its safe to say they really are pretty much the same, and as far as i know i haven't seen any final finishing or ultra fine finishing polishes available locally, and the only ones i have are Optimum polymers and Menzerna's which are all from the US. they didn't even classify gold in their page, so i guess gold is purely for applying waxes and sealants only and maybe buffing it to a high gloss, but then again you still have to follow this up with a MF, and one last tip, if you plan on jeweling your paint using the gold pad, always check it for dried waxes and sealants that cake or powder after each panel, this is the only problem i've encountered with the gold pad, since you have to work it longer chances are by the time you're done with one panel some pores have already started to harden or build up and these builds up can cause swirls yet again.

but again for me from black to gold, all of them are the same for me, try to check out jon's detail on the CRV using the black pad, the one when he used power polish and followed with reflections, the result was already like he jeweled the paint, its so clean and glossy.

*MADKATZ- pls help...Due to the good results these LC pads giving you, im now interested to buy a set. I have gone over the LC website, found out several kinds of pads (wool,foam...etc) and types of pads(yellow,white,black..etc.). But based on your experience, what is the best pad to use and the color to choose?
Another question, what im using now for polishing& buffing is the Black&decker orbital polisher, can i instantly use the pads on this polisher?
If not, is there a need to buy an adapter, backing plate..etc for the pads to be applicable on my Black&decker? Or the LC pads only for Porter Cable 7424? enlighten me pls....thanks

[jmpet626]

*jmpet626: i have tried them already, its more like black and blue for applying sealants and waxes, and you could also use these pads for jeweling the paint using finishing polishes, where red and gold is softer and could be used to jewel the paint by using ultra fine finishing polishes and applying waxes and sealants. Its more like Red and Gold are just softer versions of Black and Blue where they are a lot safer at the process of jeweling as compared the their black and blue counter parts, sadly it looks like red and gold are mainly effective if used by rotary as compared to DA's. I've actually compared the results i had before during my trial paint jeweling, done without that much guides and knowledge BTW, i actually had better results with the blue pad with a rotary as compared to the gold pad with a pc.

Basically the black blue and red pads are actually pretty much the same for me, i really can't even differentiate any significant difference, the gold in a way is slightly and noticeably softer. the black, blue and red pads are basically good for finishing polishes since they have very minimal cut and using these pads with finishing polishes will still remove paint but on a very very low cut level already, as for the gold pad i guess its the same with the red blue and black but lets just say that the gold has a very long working time. with a rotary it already takes a long time to burnish the paint to a high gloss what more with a PC, it took me a long time to completely work my finishing polish with a PC and getting the right amount of polish along side with the area to be worked with was also something i had to learn the hard way. Honestly right now im so happy just with the black pad and its performance that its all that i used since mid December, One thing i noticed from the red blue and gold pads are that they actually tend to hold a lot more wax or polish inside the foam, so better be careful in applying too much cause any increase in pressure might release polishes that are not broken down completely and these might even cause an uneven surface gloss for you. If i get to my jeweling project and i still don't see that much difference i just actually might sell my blue red and gold pads since so far i don't see any big difference with the black pad.

Thanks Madkatz.. Very informative!!!

[mau2485]

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[madkatz]

sorry 2x post

[jmpet626]

Meron na bang nakapag try ng Red & yellow na lake country pad? May difference ba sila? Sa description kasi nila sa net from Black to blue to red na pad sabi pwede for Waxes and sealants.