Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[OyiL]

Pwede. But a more likely outcome (since the Italian government supposedly loaned the money to our government to implement the direct-injection project) is that someone has already pocketed all the money and made fettucini.

uy! alam mo ba na pwedeng ma-news yang conspiracy theory na yan. baka ma-ambush interview ka dyan. IISCAAAARRY

[orly_andico]

nakalimutan na ata.. lemme google for that project. hot na hot topic yun dito a couple years ago...

here's the tsikot thread (2005)
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19679

[OyiL]

3 wheeler from vw, the GX3 concept, siguro expensive

[ehnriko]

Orli, Lio

this is one of my old concepts for the improvement of the Owner Jeep Platform... siguro P150K ubra selling price para kay Juan dela Cruz...

Kasya ten tao... sardines style loading. Pero, Low profile ang dating. What do you think? - 3K or 4AGE angine with Starex Positrack differential - pwede nang islalom! All around - Family sports ride.

would this fall under a CrossOver?

[ehnriko]

BTW

Isn't this a PhUV thread? Wag muna kayong lumayo sa usapan... let us finish muna what needs to be done before going to another. You started it - let us finish it altogether.

Reality check - Juan Dela Cruz, a low income family man, who is under a Hand to Mouth economic survival mode. If he owns a PhUV or an AUV - there is a strong chance of making a lifeline for his family. Bakit - kasi - kahit wala siyang trabaho - pwedeng arkilahin ng kapitbahay or kapit barangay yung sasakyan niya para maghatid or magsundo sa airport. to pick up Balikbayan Boxes na pasalubong ni Tatay from Saudi or ni Nanay from Japan.

Let's face it - Pinoys immediate movers of economy is his mobility. And we are not talking about Manila alone. This is indemic. Brothers in the religion of this Wheeled contraption cult... Para Mabuhay ang ailing automotive Indsutry ng Pinas... kelangan makagawa ng PhUv which is based on existing platform; i.e. platform technology.

Let me tell a litlle bit of platform technology... there are about 40,000 workers in the Automotive Industry of the Philipipnes... all of them are involved in a company that either make parts/ items to cater existing CBU's or SCU's or CKD's circulating the market. If we stop the importation of Japanese and Korean Junks into our country... then - we will be able to help them - help our country. But, that leaves us -with the option of Brand New or second hand Philippine Assembled Cars to chose from. Since the After-market needs of these cars also depend on the exisitng Philippine Car Parts Manufacturers and Assemblers. It's like - we really have no other choice.

I guess - the object of the people in the industry is to make us more aware about this potential (probably looming) adversity. It is good news if Foton and FMC will be joining the program. this way - their Vehicles will be directly supporting the Industries 40,000 workforce... That is equivalent to 40,000 Families.

In our own little way, we dreamers can only hope for the best. If we really want to make our own Car Industry? Then we really need to band together and help this country rise again.

We really need to support the PhUV program. And support our designers... I hope the Pinoy guys with the money would care to invest and help our Pinoy Talents (in Car Design) and Make Products which is Platform-Based. (which makes me wonder - Is the FilCar foundation really established te make a real auto Industry in the Philippines? or is it merely to protect some higher interest... I have never really see any significant contribution done by this Foundation in meeting the objective - the Filipino Car.)

Meaning - Vehicle design is centered on the existing and available parts and components produced by the local industries. Then and only then we will be able to say that we have started somewhere.

Oyil, Orli - here are some more of my PhUV ideas... pagandahin niyo pa nga!

(standard Height yan with standard road gap clearance on ladder type chassis - 10 Seaters)

[OyiL]

Orli, Lio

this is one of my old concepts for the improvement of the Owner Jeep Platform... siguro P150K ubra selling price para kay Juan dela Cruz...

Kasya ten tao... sardines style loading. Pero, Low profile ang dating. What do you think? - 3K or 4AGE angine with Starex Positrack differential - pwede nang islalom! All around - Family sports ride.

would this fall under a CrossOver?

slalom!! ehnriko, pakibalot mo na ako ng dalawa niyan. take home na!
In the Philippines, car pa rin siguro ang classification niyan

[OyiL]

BTW

Oyil, Orli - here are some more of my PhUV ideas... pagandahin niyo pa nga!

(standard Height yan with standard road gap clearance on ladder type chassis - 10 Seaters)

I'll take the challenge

[OyiL]

*:architect,dprox,ehnriko,pox

Tsikot.org provides free websites here. Should we have one? We can post online polls and surveys there.

[Pox]

oyil, dprox, Arhcitect rimski, orli, everyone... What do you think of these initial concepts... THis is what comes to my mind when you talk about cheapt PhUV design... pero practical

sir, i think ok ung ganitong concept. medyo aerodynamic lang ng konti for more fuel efficiency..kasi ang dapat talaga ung higher capacity para mas madaming applications kung sakali, business at mass transporter din.

[ehnriko]

sir, i think ok ung ganitong concept. medyo aerodynamic lang ng konti for more fuel efficiency..kasi ang dapat talaga ung higher capacity para mas madaming applications kung sakali, business at mass transporter din.

Hi Pox 772028

Allow me to share with you the UVX prototype I made way back 1995 more or less...

It has doors that open ala - Scarab Beetle style - similar to the new Mercedes SLR - which is commonly called as Lambo style Gull wing by many... this is a Misnomer... The old SLR has the Gull wing similar to the AMC Delorean, The Lamborghini Countache has the Scissor Type Doors and the Mercedes New SLR has the Bug wing type Doors.. In this picture... the doors were not connected since I wasnt able to have it made on Steel - just the wood. The gull wing Door here is the Cargo Bay - similar to the Big trucks. I will try to find old pictures of it with the cargo bay opened. I remember one time when there was a big flood - my driver didn't return the UVX - it turned out - nag sideline siya - ferrying EPZA workers from the PEZA Zone up to the Highway because it is the only vehicle that can cross the floods - not even a jeep was able to survive the knee high floods. I find it funny since this prototype basically fits the description of the PhUV as well as the markets preference. Di pa lumalabas and Starex at yung bagong Mercedes Design - lumabas na itong prototype kong ito and I was able to recover my cost since I had it registered with LTO as Toyota-UVX and I enjoyed using it to the max... (like a burn in torture test) I had it commisioned deliver 5-Gallon Mineral Water to cater my market in Cavite.

Here's some more info and - the picture is an old one.

This is the UVX "Ultimate Utility Vehicle Experiment/ Experience" in its' early development stages, without the doors (bug wing type).

I designed this vehicle to serve for my Mineral Water Delivery Requirements... It's based on a elongated ladder type chassis which I had custom made, installed a Toyota 1C Diesel Engine up front and mated an L300 differential at the rear drivetrain. It can carry 4 x 8 plywoods at the cargo bay. It can also carry at least 200 (5 gal.) water containers.
In this project, I experimented with ergonomics and aerodynamics which explains why it is shaped like so. The Ergonomics of this vehicle is done with the use of my home made ergoman. The Body construction was done using Real Wire frames as patterns.
It has gull wing cargo bay doors which provides easy access for loading and unloading of cargo. It also functions as a rolling store provision.

CONCLUSION:

Plenty of Design Experiences gained, and plenty of Design Techniques and Lessons Learned.

[ehnriko]

In addition to the UVX experience... It was so comfortable and driver efficient and economic - I had no complaints driving it everyday. It even drives faster than a Lancer Glxi - kinarera ko na ito - 1 time going up to Tagaytay.

I even used it as my wedding Car... reklamo ng Misis ko kasi - Bakit daw di kami sumakay dun sa Nissan Laurel ko... eh maganda yun at kulay puti pa.

[OyiL]

*ehnriko

i cant see the picture.

enclose the link with a "[""i""m""g"']" in front, then a "[""/""i""m""g"']"at the end

[Pox]

yes, cant see the pictures.

[niky]

Much as I am enamored of the idea of a city-car, I've been studying the concept for years, and there are too many failures to suggest that this is a worthwhile road to follow, not unless you hit the ball out of the park with the very first design.

Even then, a three-wheeler will not attract buyers. They'll want either the security of a four-wheeler, or the nimbleness of a scooter. It must be a four-wheeler to be practicable, and you need to have a steady stream of standardized parts to produce it economically.

It's not impossible. The Morris Mini showed how this could be done, and, in the process, killed the kit car / city car competition. Killed it dead, in fact.

There's the idea of the Chinese car that might work here. Plastic body panelling that's easy to mass-manufacturer, and an interior comparable to mass-market compacts. Would be easy to sell as a taxi-model, and with a little tweaking to produce a 7 seater, a possible shuttle special.

Norkis is already trying this, but their model is re-engineered, and it shows. Not many people want to pay for a rebuilt secondhand with a badge... even at secondhand prices... they're too smart for that... they'd rather just buy their own secondhand straight out.

However we like it, the PHUV has to be in the Tamaraw mold... but it doesn't have to look like one.

I suggest, for design, to see what made the VW microbus so special. Using a minimum of complicated shapes, you can still make a vehicle that looks expensive, not like a "Tamaraw". Break up the familiar hood-windshield angle, for one. Use big radius curves to define the fenders and roof. Hide the window frames to give a feeling of airiness. Ehnriko's ideas are good and are along the lines we should be thinking.

I've got some ideas that I'll post up tomorrow.

[katsudon_ph]

Pwede rin bang sumali.. im in the IT industry but my family business is in Bus body building, as well as transpo business.

thanks

[Pox]

Pwede rin bang sumali.. im in the IT industry but my family business is in Bus body building, as well as transpo business.

thanks

lahat sir welcome basta para sa ikagaganda ng project. pm mo sila Dprox

[OyiL]

anybody wants it big and boxy?

[Helios]

*ehnriko, are you still on the process of upgrading the beast or have frozen the development for a new proj? were you expecting it to perform this way during the initial stage of concept design, or the features were purely incidental/accidental? any which way, job well done sir especially if you show us the picture

*OyiL, keep the concepts coming. most often times hand drawn lines create the image and silhouettes form the object, which is why pen and paper is the preferred medium over digital images. that military truck looked like it can't be detected by a speed radar

*jamesvhong my bad about bsme. am I dorky or what

re foreign investors, I believe it's critical for sustainable development if local sources of capital are scarce. it's practical just as long as there's transparency across the board and that policies are drafted in the best interest of Filipinos. inappropriate use of the investment is what really makes us unpatriotic.

3 wheeled vehicle nor Orly's P100k sub compact won't fit the phuv principle. excellent idea but it deviates from the original platform. let's stick with the brief- modularity to accomodate public transport & stuff mover req.

[ehnriko]

here it is.... the UVX

[OyiL]

ehnrico, the silhuette of the UVX...parang rhino. kaya pala antibay