Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[ehnriko]

ehnrico, the silhuette of the UVX...parang rhino. kaya pala antibay

Ngapala... I dont take the common road where everyone is going... thats why I spent year exploring and experimenting with single sheet construction for car skins... kung baga - the UVX doesnt have double walls... not even subframes. Its like an origami of steel Geometric shapes... funny why its being snobbed 20 years ago. (maybe the idea was too early.... or probably - I am not talking to the right people siguro.)

I am exposing a lot of secrets here but - what the heck - If your Filipino and you have delikadesa - you won't steal it. Moreover - I also noticed that Keeping secrest dont work for Pinoys... it may work with Americans but I have observed a lot of Filipino Organizations who keep secrets with fellow filipinos don't last long. If what you have is not really a secret - don't hide it. Much of the ideas everyone is talking about has been thought of already. I know - since Automobile History was my chosen topic to research when I was still in elementary. But I am still searching and researching... particularly - the roads nobody wants to explore.

[ehnriko]

*ehnriko, are you still on the process of upgrading the beast or have frozen the development for a new proj? were you expecting it to perform this way during the initial stage of concept design, or the features were purely incidental/accidental? any which way, job well done sir especially if you show us the picture

re foreign investors, I believe it's critical for sustainable development if local sources of capital are scarce. it's practical just as long as there's transparency across the board and that policies are drafted in the best interest of Filipinos. inappropriate use of the investment is what really makes us unpatriotic.

3 wheeled vehicle nor Orly's P100k sub compact won't fit the phuv principle. excellent idea but it deviates from the original platform. let's stick with the brief- modularity to accomodate public transport & stuff mover req.

I scrapped the UVX 8 or so years ago. SOld it to a friend for P9K only... dont know what happened afterwards. I also destroyed all the wireframe patterns.

I am busy with a Light commercial truck that also fits the PhUV criteria. It's is a Modular design... in a sense that - You can actually order it by kit and assemble it yourself. It is based on a 3 to 4 ton Chassis - similar to the Isuzu NPR.

[ehnriko]

anybody wants it big and boxy?

Lio - I think this is a nice concept... I have a similar one pero hindi papasok a PhUV... siguro PhSUV na... see attachment. I call it Big Mama.

[ehnriko]

Lio... I only have a webcam here - I hope my old drawings come clear... here are some of it. I made these jeepster concept for Toyota when I submitted my portfolio in 2003 more or less... It's a jeep ... a retro jeep... but based on a small owner type chassis. The front fender is inspired from Dune Buggies.

[OyiL]

Lio... I only have a webcam here - I hope my old drawings come clear... here are some of it. I made these jeepster concept for Toyota when I submitted my portfolio in 2003 more or less... It's a jeep ... a retro jeep... but based on a small owner type chassis. The front fender is inspired from Dune Buggies.

i can see the drawings. galing mp pala gumamit ng markers. I tried modernizing the jeep, too. kaya lang di gumaganda pag dinrawing ko na.

[ehnriko]

*ehnriko, are you still on the process of upgrading the beast or have frozen the development for a new proj?

were you expecting it to perform this way during the initial stage of concept design, or the features were purely incidental/accidental? any which way, job well done sir especially if you show us the picture

*OyiL, keep the concepts coming. most often times hand drawn lines create the image and silhouettes form the object, which is why pen and paper is the preferred medium over digital images. that military truck looked like it can't be detected by a speed radar

*jamesvhong my bad about bsme. am I dorky or what

re foreign investors, I believe it's critical for sustainable development if local sources of capital are scarce. it's practical just as long as there's transparency across the board and that policies are drafted in the best interest of Filipinos. inappropriate use of the investment is what really makes us unpatriotic.

3 wheeled vehicle nor Orly's P100k sub compact won't fit the phuv principle. excellent idea but it deviates from the original platform. let's stick with the brief- modularity to accomodate public transport & stuff mover req.

Helios, I will try to answer all your question - incomplete ang sagot ko before...

The UVX - was a good experiment and experience. In fact - I really wanted to call it the ULTIMATE, UTILITY Vehicle Experiment and Experience. UUVXX.
kaso baka biruin ng mga bata na UV Ek ek. so I opted to keep it UVX. I stopped developing it... but I have all the blueprint in my head. I would still pursue it later siguro. Here are some more of the images... I left my picture at home all I have are zerox... pasensya na sa quality ng webcam snap shots.

I expected all the results to come out exactly the way I wanted. Since my business requirement was to be able to carry at least 200 5gal. container in one loading so that my driver wont be coming back and forth from the delivery points and the homebase. It saves more fuel that way, and lesser probability for accidents. And since they will be carrying heavy loads... I dont want them to sue me later after 30 years by blaming their spinal injuries on my work condition... so I had the Cargo bay roof elevated to a height acceptable for the normal Filipino pahinante... but still maintain at least 1 to 2 inch Head Clearance so it wont be hitting House Roofs. It is an intelligent design. I applied all the knowledge I gained from the mentorship I got from Oby Mapua himself while I was his student (grasshopper) in his Human Powered Vehicle Design Seminars.... Good Designs are always Ergonomic, Aerodynamic, Lightweight, Minimalistic, Thermodynamic... a basta - Dynamic. Thats it - baka di na ako maintindihan ng masa. (tempting minsan magsalita ng technical masyado... but I dont want to bore you) So I will try my best to keep my language pleasantly acceptable to the norms....

[OyiL]

car-based van

[OyiL]

van-based van. nye!!

[OyiL]

collage

[ehnriko]

Here's some more images of the UVX... that time - di pa uso yung wind breaker sa taas ng mga truck... I already have it - but I made it the roof para airy and roomy ang feeling sa loob.

[ehnriko]

Here's some more.... old drawings.... Pinoy Family Car Concept, Coach Royale (inspiration... old classic horse drawn carriages - 2004 drawing), and the Newgen Mini Car Concept I think this is year 2000. Pwede sa Pinas ito. Puro mataas ang ceilings para di mainit.

[ehnriko]

Here's one of my sketches just the other day... ito madaling madaling gawin. Kahit saang talyer kaya. If you like it. You may copy it for personal use only... not for commercial gains.

[OyiL]

ehnriko. concept sketches are really good. ako yung mga concept ko adrenaline juices lang ang driver. sa 'yo, may istorya - yun ang tunay. i think you need to get a scanner para makita talaga yung ganda. ako i'm using a very old one, pinamigay lang sa kin noon, windows 98 pa ang uso. it still works for winxp.

[OyiL]

Utility vehicle program bill being readied

02/04/2007 | 11:08 PM

source:http://www.gmanews.tv/story/29319/Ut...-being-readied

The Board of Investments (BoI) is drafting the framework for the proposed Philippine Utility Vehicle Program (PhUV) that will become the basis for legislation creating the program and granting perks for participants.

BoI managing head and Trade Undersecretary Elmer C. Hernandez told reporters late last week that his office is studying the incentives and financing package for the program, which will be designed to spur production of low-cost multi-purpose vehicles and lure consumers from buying used cars.

UNTAPPED MARKET

Car makers and car parts manufacturers have blamed the smuggling of such vehicles as unfair competition, since illegal importers of secondhand cars do not pay duties and taxes.

Besides consulting supportive lawmakers, BoI is also consulting leaders of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines, Inc.; Truck Manufacturers Association, Inc., and the Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacters Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP).

"It’s [the planned bill] still in the drawing stage. Once we develop the framework, we can prepare the necessary bill," Mr. Hernandez said.

He said the framework should be finished in time for the opening of the 14th Congress this July so that the appropriate bill can be filed.

THREE SCHEMES

He said the framework consists of three schemes from which participants can choose.

The first scheme is to mandate owners and operators of public utility vehicles with old engines to replace them, using locally made parts.

Not only will this proposal spur the local parts industry, it should also address the air pollution problem in Metro Manila, Mr. Hernandez said.

The second scheme is to build an affordable passenger vehicle that will cater to the C and D classes.

"Right now, the current market of the assemblers — the A and B classes — is not growing. If you want a viable auto industry, you should also market to the C and D classes. That’s a big market," Mr. Hernandez said.

The price of these vehicles for the C and D classes should not exceed P400,000, he stressed, which is roughly the price of secondhand cars in good running condition.

FOR ENTREPRENEURS

The final proposal is to develop a multipurpose Asian utility vehicle that can carry both passengers and cargo.

Designed for small businesses, these vehicles will have at least 60% local content and will be priced at P350,000 at most. "We are looking at cars for the entrepreneur types," MVPMAP executive director Ferdinand Racquelsantos said.

KEY CHALLENGE

Since August last year, local auto parts manufacturers have been urging the government to undertake a program similar to the People’s Car program of the ’90s, which saw the development of models like the Tamaraw FX and the Ford Fiera.

Mr. Racquelsantos said the first prototype — with around 58% local parts — can be produced by the end of the first quarter.

Mr. Hernandez said the key challenge the proposed program now faces is the insufficient number of companies in the country that can manufacture engines.

"We don’t have economies of scale. If you have economies of scale because of demand and attain critical mass, this will justify the putting up of a manufacturing plant," Mr. Hernandez said. -KLA/BusinessWorld

sa July pa?????!!!!!

[Helios]

I scrapped the UVX 8 or so years ago.

aww, what a shame. why didn't you keep it for posterity probably donate the car to an organization, club, collectors, or automotive school? at least it would serve as a display masterpiece- a filipino ingenuity by so and so, you know? so that those (generations) who'd come behind us will find us faithful to the task, and may our sort of devotion will guide their dreams, di ba?

anybody wants it big and boxy?

summer in Oz means bushfire alert and is a terrible time for rescue operation crews. a friend who's a volunteer fireman asked me to design 2 concept vehicles similarly based on your concept *Oyil solely for sar (search and rescue) operation. each high mobility vehicle suits a particular range. one is amphibious type similar to a general purpose vehicle designed to respond to disaster caused by hurricanes, volcano or flooding. the other is hmmwv type designed for bushfires, earthquakes or tornadoes. they're easily transported to any zone area via helicopter lift. unfortunately i handed him everything so i don't have a hard copy to show here except the idea that yours or anyone else's concept of a large size suv may suit a national or foreign govt's requirements.

The UVX - was a good experiment and experience. In fact - I really wanted to call it the ULTIMATE, UTILITY Vehicle Experiment and Experience. UUVXX.
I applied all the knowledge I gained from the mentorship I got from Oby Mapua himself while I was his student (grasshopper) in his Human Powered Vehicle Design Seminars....

it's obvious we're still boys in men's bodies playing with our toys we tend to go extreme from time to time- "hey it's my toy, i can do anything i want with it, and call it any way i want". fair enough it's still a good one-of though. sorry i'm not familiar with mr. mapua but he must've been proud of what you've done so far.


PS: hey folks, when do we get serious about the phuv design? i mean real up to date concept sketches for evaluation? i was involved in a vehicular accident lately so i'm pretty much tied up.

[ehnriko]

PS: hey folks, when do we get serious about the phuv design? i mean real up to date concept sketches for evaluation? i was involved in a vehicular accident lately so i'm pretty much tied up.

Helios, where are you based?

I sold the UVX to a friend, His latero (panel beater) customized it and they used it to deliver tube-ICE... last time I heard, they have a problem with the starter... and they kinda neglected it. It will be very expensive to restore it now - considering that it has been undergoing torture test since day 1. It was already in a state of neglect when I sold it. After they painted it white and changed the doors into normal type, they didn't pay any attention on maintenance, like engines timing belt and oil. They just continued abusing it, like an old carabao, it doesnt grow old - but it always needs new grass. Its much easier to build a new one, and its not expensive. I estimate, with current material prices, we can make one for only P120K. more or less (bare model) If you notice - I simply played around with what material is available. If you take a closer look at the grill... It is actually the grill of an owner type jeep placed horizontally and fitted to conform with the bumper and hood lines. The Hood is also from the owner type jeep which I expanded and - customized to open forward-up so I wont have any surprises during hi speeds. The Fenders are single sheet G.I.'s shaped in a manner that it doesn't need subframes... it gets strength from the main carrozzeria in a manner similar to VW beetle fenders. I had the rear wheel wells customized so as I could maximize the space behind to accomodate 4 x 8 sheets... it was a challenge that was easily solved by using wheel spacers. otherwise I would have problems with the wheels. It's a very simple yet organic or ergonomic design... because I didnt compromise comfort and room for the driver and passengers. I maid my own strut bars for the front suspension, since buying a new one costs an arm and a leg that time. THe Strut bars I used are corrugated bars - one used for construction of buildings... 1.5" dia. I think., I just picked it up from the Junkyard. It was needed since I altered the caster of the front suspension assembly. I wanted to make the steering feel like it's power steering at the same time increase the stability during hi-speed driving. It really handled well, I always drive it fast because I enjoyed listening to the exhaust tone - I placed a racing exhaust tip to it. It is almost like an American - Step Van, but smaller. It still stands true to its name... It was indeed the Ultimate Utility Vehicle I have ever Experienced... nothing compares to it. Those small suzuki Vans - they are OK in Italy and Japan where streets are small and weather the weather is normally cold and dry humidity. We need more space because our AC's cannot keep our singits dry in the Philippines due to Hot and Wet and Humid weather.

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By the way, you were asking when we are going to get something serious here... are we not serious enough already? Which makes me think... by the way Lio, how many companies are participating in the PhUV program? If the market is the C & D or those people buying SUVIC cars or imported junks... then its a huge number. But are these C & D market capable of paying P400,000 for a Vehicle? I think the Government should take another look in making this more realistic. We have a currency and purchasing power nearly the same to India, but they are targeting to make a Peoples Vehicle to only P150K (with imported junk components a.k.a. surplus) or P250K (with brand new components) at least they have a better target. What is the reason why this is too expensive? A car is a necessity for every family... it empowers them. Being able to ride a tricycle or a jeepney anywhere anytime is not empowerment. It is only for the tourist. Empowerment is to give Juan Dela Cruz a decent Nobility on his Mobility (MOREOVER - it Helps and Adds to his becoming a more Responsible Person). Personal, Utilitarian Trekker, Recreational, International, Service .........PUTRIS!

-teka parang di masyado maganda pakingan. At any rate, the same manner the Owner type Jeeps empower the Men of Cavite and Paranaque... pang pulis... pulis and dating.... pulis Character. Empowering dibah. Yun nga lang, kelangan you have to dress up like FPJ or Erap when you drive one, and see to it that you have checked the weather before going out. A small white towel around you neck would be appropriate dressing... dont forget the wrist ban. oh... and Dark Shades - Rayban. did we miss anything from our checklist? Wallet, Watch, Spectacles, Testicles.. OK were ready. Lets Go!

Here are some more from my album... (not a digital album)

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L to R: Concept INDIO, Concept ULTRABUS/X, MY 2004 concept for toyota HiAce's Vans for 2005 onwards.

[ehnriko]

ehnriko. concept sketches are really good. ako yung mga concept ko adrenaline juices lang ang driver. sa 'yo, may istorya - yun ang tunay. i think you need to get a scanner para makita talaga yung ganda. ako i'm using a very old one, pinamigay lang sa kin noon, windows 98 pa ang uso. it still works for winxp.

I started to be driven with merely adrenalin juices like you - thats why my very first - real concept was the Ultamax a.k.a. volvo 850S in 1984... which I even submitted to VOLVO in 1990 with the hope of getting a job from them.

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With the conceptual sketches - it doesnt matter how ugly it looks - what matters is the thought inside the drawing. If you have seen the concept sketch of Dr. Ferdinand Porsche for the Old VW Microbus... he had it drawn on a tissue Paper over coffee, maybe under the influence of a German Beer... It looked like a kindergarten sketch. what the heck. Then, once the concept is OK - and inspiration would step in - then your Technical Pencil makes the initial steps to making it into virtual reality. I wouldn't advise going directly into the computer to do conceptual drawings... it's not like with paper and pen. Here's some more inspired designs... L to R - the MISSTER (Speedster for Miss's and Mister's - a 6 seating open top car for the barkada... and my 2004 renderings for toyota MR2 for 2005 model and onwards... take note of the light clusters) I sent these also to toyota last 2004.
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[orly_andico]

the reason it's 400K is because the local manufacturers cannot wrap their brain around the notion that they won't make a ton of money.

considering that the government is involved, everybody is thinking "let's bloat the price because we will need to grease the skids at various government agencies etc. etc."

that's what's wrong in this country. every time someone tries to do something noble and worthwhile, you instantly have a mass of cockroaches all over it trying to grab their bite of money (apologies to the cockroaches..)

i'd go for 150K. and yes i am convinced that it has to be a utility vehicle and not a small city car. Why not make all the body panels out of fiberglass? we have a "mature" fiberglass industry, just look at A-Toy's body kits. You'd need a solid frame for protection though.

[ehnriko]

Guys, since we are all interested to have a real Filipino Car that will empower Pinoys, particularly the C & D market... what about a Light Commercial Truck? Which is also Modular in concept and design, easy to maintain, roomy, tough looking and platform based. Something like this....

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wouldn't it also fall into the PhUV program since it is first and foremost a utility vehicle.

What do you think?

[ehnriko]

i'd go for 150K. and yes i am convinced that it has to be a utility vehicle and not a small city car. Why not make all the body panels out of fiberglass? we have a "mature" fiberglass industry, just look at A-Toy's body kits. You'd need a solid frame for protection though.

Orli, I like your insights... ilan bang katulad mo meron ang Pilipinas? dapat magparami ka ng lahi. the best of our race should have more wives and more children para naman gumanda takbo ng general consiousness ng Pinas... don't let the cockroaches spread like rats... in a way - they share the same traits... spreading their like.

The Fiberglass content in a local car is indespensible. plastic Injection wouldings can only be justified with economy of scale. But with a limited target, fiberglass will be perfect for some parts like bumpers, dashboards, panels for interior, engine insulation or fender wheel wells. G.I. sheet metal is still the cheapest and easiest material to use for major parts. The G7 by attawi falls into this mode of automotive construction... no parts were stamped, all body parts were merely bent and mechanically pressed or manipulated - but not Battered by Pampangga style Hammering and Heating.
but for the Bumper - it has to be pedestrian safe, so fiberglass is still best preferred. Mixed contents is best for our industry... moreover, too much fiberglass making is also bad for the neighbor unless of course in a controlled environment.