MVPMAP's PhUV feedback thread

[oldblue]

dapat si niky na lang gawin consultant ng MVPMAP


sa sobrang ganda ng presentation nya, hindi ko na binasa. hindi ko din naman maintindihan


pero andyun yun WOW factor sa presentation ni sir *niky

dapat ganyan din sana reaction namin sa PHuv, may WOW factor

[pup2]

I didn't hear anyone complaining about the X-Trail's boxy shape (except perhaps for myself). Speaking of which, I think the X-Trail deserves even just some of the Murano's curves.

But overall, I guess they could have made the PhUV a little more streamlined. Wala bang test drive? I-slalom na yan! :D

I doubt very much the x-trail is as boxy as the PHUV . Anyhow, if they have to keep the boxiness to lower the cost, might as well stay with the tried and true Tamaraw/Ford Fiera-type exterior and spend more money on the interior and the build quality.

Innuna pa nila design trendiness but that can't be done without a bigger budget. Nabanggit na yata ni Niky lahat pero napansin niyo ba yung 50-cent interior lights?? Betcha kahit 6 months lang warranty niyan lahat magke-claim ng warranty sa ilaw.

Pero I believe the upholstery is ALREADY much improved from before -- so at least may positive comment naman ako.

As it is, a fancified, custom-built AC jeepney would probably be a better buy kaya sana iimprove nila. Kung kailangan nila ng suporta sa taxes para ma-improve ang design at build quality, that's what tax credit certificates are for!

[AG4]

A.5 Character line looks out of place, and the fender is a very awkward part. By redesigning the headlight housings (easy, since they're plastic or fiberglass), they could make easier to shape fenders.

No real fenders and bumper(no cut lines).

A.7 The shutline of the rear door looks like an afterthought. It should more closely mate the rear fender guard, or they should just notch the fender guard to fit it... another example of adjusting to chassis variance.... You have the shutline first, then the fender guard is positioned by hand to match it.

A.8 While they do use the trick of putting black paint around the windows to give a floating roof, they don't line up the windows correctly. The third row window is an inch too high, the rear hatch a few inches too low. I hope to see this addressed in production models.

I believe this is hand built, probably hand everything...
No stamped panels, no properly molded fiberglass panels like real production cars. This also explains why the windows have huge frames and huge pillars, slim window frames and pillars are probably difficult to do by hand.

I would rather have a PhUV based on an old Tamaraw FX/Kijang(It actually had engineering involved and was crash tested) than one thats a mish mash of different parts. Safety? what safety... we don't have enough R&D for that.
But if they collaborated with Toyota, we could have probably used their old gen tried and tested Tamaraw FX as a basis and modify it, the most important thing is to have something acceptable to start off with.

My Tamaraw FX based PhUV...

[LexTer]

Parang owner type jeep lang na pinahaba Yung upper part ang hindi ko ma-appreciate - windshield, windows, bubong, salamin sa likod.

Tatawanan ng mga latero ng Ilo-ilo, Pampanga at Nuea Ecija ang design ng MVPMAP.

nakita nyo na ba ang jeep sa iloilo? yung kung tawagin ay "pasad"? wow! gaganda nun. seminar kaya sila dun. yung mga yun pukpok lang at walang molde pero nabibilog nila.

[carlocaraddict]

sana they took time to design it. sayang, parang minadali yung quality. sa dash palang, evident yung pagmamadali.

[ogpro]

Good going Niky.

An excellent and emotion free report, someone should send it over to the mvpmap guys.

[Helios]

uhm guys, I don't think they ever had designers during the pre-planning stage and if ever they consulted one they totally threw the design out of the window and utilized instead whatever they had 5 to 10 years ago. The concept in and out was obviously put together by a bunch of traditional old guys <hey it's not that bad, you just need to listen more to the younger generation. Good thing tsikot members belong to an overwhelmingly active and young community- highly principled and ready to bash each other, I meant confront and deal with issues. So guys continue with what Niky had started, perhaps the oldies are lurking on this forum, be mindful of what you say paalala lang.

[drey]

grabe ka naman sir helios... maybe theyre just conservative.

[VtEC]

Just wondering, ilang units kaya ginawa?
when i was still working for sumitomo, FOA produces atleast 10 to 50 cars per stages of their prototyping.I just hope yon lang ang ginawa not unless may market na sila agad.

[66bunny]

Niky, where are you when it was still in the design phase?[SIZE="6"][/SIZE]

You're the saviour for all our pet peeves. Kudos to you!

[jpdm]

Niky,

HANEP, ANG GALING !!!!!!!!DI KA WANNABE!!! A TRUE-BLUE AUTO CRITIC!!!!!!KEEP IT UP!!!!SA MGA KATULAD NAMIN NA UMAASA NA MAGKAROON NG ISANG RESPECTABLE DOMESTIC MOTOR INDUSTRY, YOU ARE A MANNA IN HEAVEN!!!BALANSE AT EMPIRICAL ANG APPROACH!!!I HOPE MABASA NG MVPMAP, DREAMCO,FRANCISCO MOTORS, AT IBA PANG INTERESADONG MAG-PRODUCE NG PHUV LALO DITO SA AMIN SA CAVITE ANG RATIONAL CRITICISM MO--PARA MA-IMPROVE YUNG I-MA-MAS PRODUCE NA MODELS.

YOUR THE BEST,NIKY--PUEDE KA NA SA TOP GEAR!HEHE

INDEED, I WITNESSED AN AUTO REVIEW!

P.S. PUEDE KA BANG MA-INVITE NA SPEAKER AT CONSULTANT DITO SA PROVINCE NAMIN?SIR DPROX, PUEDENG BA NATING ISAMA SI NIKY SA MEETING?

[mazdamazda]

I would rather have a PhUV based on an old Tamaraw FX/Kijang(It actually had engineering involved and was crash tested) than one thats a mish mash of different parts. Safety? what safety... we don't have enough R&D for that.
But if they collaborated with Toyota, we could have probably used their old gen tried and tested Tamaraw FX as a basis and modify it, the most important thing is to have something acceptable to start off with.

My Tamaraw FX based PhUV...

Actually, this is a more feasible, palatable & better suggestion than the current MVMAP PHUV.

Why build from ground up (so they claim) when you have a tried and tested platform & engine ready from Toyota that can be used & improved upon.

My comments...

1. Loose the recessed headlamps. IMO - it may look cute but is not functional at all and IMO only blocks the light.

2. No foglamps or auxiliary lamps please.

3. No fender flares or built-in stepboards or any other burloloy which will only add to the manufacturing cost.

[arvic]

IMHO, it's a good start for us!!!! sana hinintay eto ng PLDT bago sila kumuha ng mga Advie at L300.

Kailangan lang improve eto pa unti unti...


and hopefully eto ang gawing pulis car ng metro manila or ng buong bansa para maging standard ang patrol cars nila....

[mazdamazda]

Police Car? With less than 50HP? No thanks... baka hindi pa kayang makipaghabulan sa mga high-speed car chase.

[arvic]

sorry M2 but i don't agree in putting powerful engine in the street of metro manila which is the average speed you can achieve in less than 60kph according to MMDA. even if you make EVO a police car it will perform as good as PhUV in the long run.

If you will use it in NLEX/SLEX siguro engine will be significant factor in choosing a car. pero in QC dami na din ako nakikitang suzuki "yellow" bravo na police car, imbes na suzuki eh di yung PhUV na ang bilhin nila...

Meron pang kasabihan ang mga police natin " wala ng bibilis pa sa BALA" hehehe

[drey]

max speed nya is 102kph kasi high torque.

More facts, this engine is an Isuzu clone.

[dprox]

Niky,

HANEP, ANG GALING !!!!!!!!DI KA WANNABE!!! A TRUE-BLUE AUTO CRITIC!!!!!!KEEP IT UP!!!!SA MGA KATULAD NAMIN NA UMAASA NA MAGKAROON NG ISANG RESPECTABLE DOMESTIC MOTOR INDUSTRY, YOU ARE A MANNA IN HEAVEN!!!BALANSE AT EMPIRICAL ANG APPROACH!!!I HOPE MABASA NG MVPMAP, DREAMCO,FRANCISCO MOTORS, AT IBA PANG INTERESADONG MAG-PRODUCE NG PHUV LALO DITO SA AMIN SA CAVITE ANG RATIONAL CRITICISM MO--PARA MA-IMPROVE YUNG I-MA-MAS PRODUCE NA MODELS.

YOUR THE BEST,NIKY--PUEDE KA NA SA TOP GEAR!HEHE

INDEED, I WITNESSED AN AUTO REVIEW!

P.S. PUEDE KA BANG MA-INVITE NA SPEAKER AT CONSULTANT DITO SA PROVINCE NAMIN?SIR DPROX, PUEDENG BA NATING ISAMA SI NIKY SA MEETING?

Of course. :2thumbsup: If and when niky can make time. This much I can say - magkakapit-bahay lang tayo. And that I say not just because of location.
Niky, it's your call. Since I am between you two, I'm willing to host the EB. We have a small bahay kubo at the back. Weekends, di ba? The sooner we get out of analysis-paralysis and do something about it, the better for all. Let's do this.
As ogpro says in his blog, "F*ck it" and move on.
And if Jappy is reading this thread, please accept the warm invitation, and let's pick up from where we left off last Feb 6.
But just so things aren't left too tentative. How's Saturday Jun23 10am?
Ay siyanga pala -- sasama din daw si architect sa EB.
Anyone else? If you want to attend, please bring your list of issues, coz it's gonna be a no-nonsense task-oriented meet.

[ogpro]

Of course. :2thumbsup: If and when niky can make time. This much I can say - magkakapit-bahay lang tayo. And that I say not just because of location.
Niky, it's your call. Since I am between you two, I'm willing to host the EB. We have a small bahay kubo at the back. Weekends, di ba? The sooner we get out of analysis-paralysis and do something about it, the better for all. Let's do this.
As ogpro says in his blog, "F*ck it" and move on.
And if Jappy is reading this thread, please accept the warm invitation, and let's pick up from where we left off last Feb 6.
But just so things aren't left too tentative. How's Saturday Jun23 10am?
Ay siyanga pala -- sasama din daw si architect sa EB.
Anyone else? If you want to attend, please bring your list of issues, coz it's gonna be a no-nonsense task-oriented meet.

Aba, na-quote pa ako LOL. Have fun fellas, I wish I was there, sounds like it'll be a very productive meet. I doubt I'll be in country before then tho, hehe. Do us proud!

[dprox]

Aba, na-quote pa ako LOL. Have fun fellas, I wish I was there, sounds like it'll be a very productive meet. I doubt I'll be in country before then tho, hehe. Do us proud!

Hey og, in my book, your product is an excellent disenyo pilipino. Anytime you're in town, you're welcome to my bahay kubo. PM me a heads-up, if ever. Meantime, we'll eat and drink your share muna.:meeting: :juice: :eathis:
Forgot to add: Any talk of birthdays shall be roundly shut down as irrelevant and OT

[ogpro]

Hey og, in my book, your product is an excellent disenyo pilipino. Anytime you're in town, you're welcome to my bahay kubo. PM me a heads-up, if ever. Meantime, we'll eat and drink your share muna.:meeting: :juice: :eathis:
Forgot to add: Any talk of birthdays shall be roundly shut down as irrelevant and OT

Hehe, thanks dude. I might just take you up on that when I get there. Have fun!