Radiator replacement

[dr. d]

doubledouble.

[dr. d]

We used to do that in all our Taxis (after the radiator was replaced by a "replacement")

Using a Non-factory spec radiator (normally made of copper) has only 2 pros, it's easier to repair AND during those hot summer days, spraying the radiator with water can help the A/C.

But based on experience with replacement radiators.

It's bigger - but the rows are actually smaller
It gets hotter, higher chances of the hood fading quicker

I would also recommend to remove the thermostat as I'm not sure how will local radiators hold up.

Only issues I noticed with removing the thermostat is that (1) it will take longer for the car to warm up, if you're driving short distances, it can be really annoying.

(2) when driving at high speeds out of town, the engine temp will be lower than usual, hence again not reaching the optimum temp of the engine.

the aluminum-versus-copper-radiators arguments are in the innernet.
na-hilo ako.

having experienced "financial diversity" in life, i appreciate the copper-being-repair-able part. aluminum radiators can be repaired, but it takes special training and special materiel.
someone advised me, "when the radiator starts leaking, replace it. even if you are able to repair that leak, others will follow soon."

so, what was the reason daw, that made removing the thermostat a good move?

[ice15]

so, what was the reason daw, that made removing the thermostat a good move?

it's 1 less thing to worry about. without it water pump na lang and pwede masira (granting di mabutas yung radiator, hose and tumigil yung fan)

those times when the car overheated pero ok naman lahat... thermostat did not open

[dr. d]

it's 1 less thing to worry about. without it water pump na lang and pwede masira (granting di mabutas yung radiator, hose and tumigil yung fan)

those times when the car overheated pero ok naman lahat... thermostat did not open

well,
i suppose, if you're in mass transport business, you do get to see problems that we private motorists only read about.

[ice15]

well,
i suppose, if you're in mass transport business, you do get to see problems that we private motorists only read about.

yup... our taxis used to run 400kms per day...

but back to the thread...

the car (Gen 2 CRV) is more than 10 years old... how long do you plan to keep it?

forever - buy a replacement but you may need to make adjustments here and there. also there's chances of mali yung mabili mo. then bibili ka ulit nang bigger then adjustment ulit.
upto 5 years - buy original, baka baratin ka ng buyer if mapansin nya na replacement yung radiator mo tapos modified bracket ng fan - happened to our Adventure

[kisshmet]

That somehow makes sense...

Going back, I was told by another radiator guy to remove the thermostat as it isn't doing any good. I simply smiled.

So my other recommendation, do not modify the car unless you really know what you are doing.

It's not doing any good..dagdag trabaho pa yun sa kanya para maibalik

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[dr. d]

this is what i think.
in the olden days, cars had temperature gauges with needle pointers.
removing the thermostat resulted in them needles going up to normal, more slowly than if the thermostat weren't there.
this gave rise to the mistaken notion that thermostat-less car engines are less prone to overheat.
go figure.

[Archerfish]

It's not doing any good..dagdag trabaho pa yun sa kanya para maibalik

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Right on the spot! [emoji3]

it's 1 less thing to worry about. without it water pump na lang and pwede masira (granting di mabutas yung radiator, hose and tumigil yung fan)

those times when the car overheated pero ok naman lahat... thermostat did not open

What could be the reason why the thermostat got stuck?

You mentioned about optimal temperature so yes, thermal efficiency will suffer. In effect, poor fuel economy. However, I don't know by how much and it might be negligible.

[kisshmet]

^actually it's all about design

Old design, Rear wheel drive, continuously running fan, no thermostat required

New design, front wheel drive, thermostat driven fan (not always on)

Old school mechanic used to old design converts FWD design to conform with RWD..cheaper solution..disregard the thermostat..keep the fan running

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[ice15]

Right on the spot! [emoji3]
What could be the reason why the thermostat got stuck?

rust, old age? it's a small piece of metal with a spring.

[12vdc]

Hi po ilan po ba ang row ng radiator ng crv gen 2 manual, at ano po ba maganda replacement na brand?

at mas maganda ba kung 2 row ang ipapalit kung sakali, parehobba ang size ng 1row at 2row?

Just stick to the original design, get the cheapest Taiwan replacement. Taiwan quality is par with orig, its dirt cheap you could get 3 for a price of the casa.

As per my experience, thermostats fail only due to poor maintenance ie. not replacing coolant on reco interval, using tap water only with contaminants causing sediments and rust buildup that eventually calcify hardens on the orifice and moving parts of the thermostat valve. Removing thermostat could cause poor fuel economy.

[Gspeedy]

yup... our taxis used to run 400kms per day...

but back to the thread...

the car (Gen 2 CRV) is more than 10 years old... how long do you plan to keep it?

forever - buy a replacement but you may need to make adjustments here and there. also there's chances of mali yung mabili mo. then bibili ka ulit nang bigger then adjustment ulit.
upto 5 years - buy original, baka baratin ka ng buyer if mapansin nya na replacement yung radiator mo tapos modified bracket ng fan - happened to our Adventure

Maybe 3 years or even more.
was hoping may nakapagtry na dito with their crvs using 2 rows, dapat nga siguro 1 row nalang since yun nga ata ang stock.

looking now for evercool like the one posted online laz, since dami good review but a friend told me good daw ang made in thailand.

[shadow]

While you're at it. Palitan mo na rin lahat ng hose and then since papalitan mo na rin hose, palitab mo na thermostat para isang gawaan na lang.


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[ninjababez]

While you're at it. Palitan mo na rin lahat ng hose and then since papalitan mo na rin hose, palitab mo na thermostat para isang gawaan na lang.


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kung 10 years or 100k km plus na siguro
pero kung mababa pa mileage, sayang pera
mas OK din kung orig hose ipalit since konti lang difference sa replacement, atleast sakto pa

[shadow]

kung 10 years or 100k km plus na siguro
pero kung mababa pa mileage, sayang pera
mas OK din kung orig hose ipalit since konti lang difference sa replacement, atleast sakto pa

Gen 2 CRV daw eh. Kahit mababa Mileage, dapat palitan na.


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[dr. d]

i am curious. i don't honda.
is there a difference between the gen 1 radiator and the gen 2 radiator?

[ninjababez]

Gen 2 CRV daw eh. Kahit mababa Mileage, dapat palitan na.
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makikita naman nya kung super dry na yun rubber. sakin kasi noon 215k km bago ko pinalitan, pero dapat siguro nung mga nasa 190k km palang napalitan na.

[Gspeedy]

Just stick to the original design, get the cheapest Taiwan replacement. Taiwan quality is par with orig, its dirt cheap you could get 3 for a price of the casa.

As per my experience, thermostats fail only due to poor maintenance ie. not replacing coolant on reco interval, using tap water only with contaminants causing sediments and rust buildup that eventually calcify hardens on the orifice and moving parts of the thermostat valve. Removing thermostat
could cause poor fuel economy.

thank you sa reply. You mentioned of thermostat do i need to replace thermostat when replacing radiator? mukang taiwan made nga talaga makukuha ng friend konsa evangelista para tumingin, if he cannot buy one then baka evercool brand na cheapo not the 11k evercool bit the one found in online shops.


i dont think i need to replace the hoses also hindi naman kasi nag overheat.


right on the coolant yun mechanic kasi na pinagpalit ko ng coolant i had that feeling na hindi gumamit ng distilled kaya siguro naglawang and nag crack. masama mag bintang but ireally had that feeling.

[Gspeedy]

While you're at it. Palitan mo na rin lahat ng hose and then since papalitan mo na rin hose, palitab mo na thermostat para isang gawaan na lang.


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need ba talaga sir, hindi naman nag overheat.

[shadow]

need ba talaga sir, hindi naman nag overheat.

It's up to you but if it's my car, papalitan ko na lahat mga yun. I will not wait na mag overheat pa.

Mura lang naman radiator hoses and thermostat.

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