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    #1561
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Its been 2 weeks since I have my ws tinted with oem 20 and existing 3m medium on all sides and rear so far im getting use to just have to be more careful especially those bicycles and motorcycles who appear suddenly or at your side without any lights. Im now going to have my other ride tinted oem 20 ws and oem 5 on all sides and rear. Is there a visibly big difference with oem 20 and oem 5 when looking and glancing at the side mirror?

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    Yep there is.

    The tint i have sa beater car ko is k14 sa ws and sa frt windows are patong of 3M's FX10 and BC20, Rear windows are FX05 and BC20 tapos sa rear glass ay fx20 and fx05. No problem kahit babad sa sun for hours and no issues sa mga naka high beam.

    its easier to drive nga at night kesa sa car with light tint pero puro watermarks naman.

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    #1562
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Mine was charcoal 35 / NS-CCS-35 1 PLY for 2,000 petot all... with that amount mukhang value for money na nga...

    SpectrumX ccs-35
    Visible light transmission = 32%
    Visible Light Reflection = 7.5%
    UV Transmission = <1%
    Solar heat gain coefficient = 0.73 (meaning it reject 27%/100% of solar heat)

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    This is how it looks like sa labas...


    Ito naman kuha from the inside...


    Somewhere malapit sa warehouse na pinuntahan ko kanina... with regard to performance, parang walang pinagka iba sa 3M, hindi ko ramdam ang init ng araw... siguro dahil 2k lang gastos ko kaya hindi ramdam ang init... hahaha... seriously, totoong tint siya not for the sake na may tint ang sasakyan mo hehehe...


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    #1563
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    This is how it looks like sa labas...


    Ito naman kuha from the inside...


    Somewhere malapit sa warehouse na pinuntahan ko kanina... with regard to performance, parang walang pinagka iba sa 3M, hindi ko ramdam ang init ng araw... siguro dahil 2k lang gastos ko kaya hindi ramdam ang init... hahaha... seriously, totoong tint siya not for the sake na may tint ang sasakyan mo hehehe...


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    Sir where did you install and buy your tint? Kindly share

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    #1564
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Sir where did you install and buy your tint? Kindly share

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    Sir, local shop lang sa province... for sure madami sa manila tintshop, look for spectrum x brand or anything legit made in korea... value for money siya...


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    #1565
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Sir, local shop lang sa province... for sure madami sa manila tintshop, look for spectrum x brand or anything legit made in korea... value for money siya...


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    Okay I will try to find so far here in banawe they have solaroid tint and solrex korea brand I chat with a shop before.

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    #1566
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Okay I will try to find so far here in banawe they have solaroid tint and solrex korea brand I chat with a shop before.

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    How much for all windows? Mine was 1 ply only, for i think small difference lang for 2 ply which is thicker...

    reflection yung available nila for 2 ply which is kahit nasa garage ka nag rereflect parang salamin... hindi ko type yung ganun... baka kasi may manalamin tapos mangolangot while youre inside... heheh..


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    #1567
    For solaroid they quoted me 3.5k wrap around mpv for solrex 6k wrap around also for mpv vehicle. Solaroid is cheap but im not sure about the quality if its easily fade or too dark when driving at night. That's the magic 3M that you are referring to reflectorize. I just prefer black for tint.

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    #1568
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    For solaroid they quoted me 3.5k wrap around mpv for solrex 6k wrap around also for mpv vehicle. Solaroid is cheap but im not sure about the quality if its easily fade or too dark when driving at night. That's the magic 3M that you are referring to reflectorize. I just prefer black for tint.

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    Mahal din pala... baka meron dito na try na sa ganyang brand... let’s wait...


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    #1569
    Made in china...




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    #1570
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Made in china...




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    Wow! It's like my eyeglasses, it will automatically darken or lighten.

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    #1571
    After doing some research, may i clarify some points namely:

    1) For Vkool tints, all series will have problems with RFID except the VK series. Is this correct?
    2) Will the Vkool tints also degrade the signal of cellphones? (except the VK series?)
    3) Vkool VK series only has 2 options, VK40 and VK70 (or are there more) both of which are colored green? Is this correct?
    4) BF Ceramic Tint has no published TSER ratings, only heat rejection ratings. Is this correct? (Does anyone have their TSER rating)
    5) Does the 3M Crystalline series have metal? Will it have problems with RFID/Cellphones?
    6) 3M Black Chrome is their "magic tint" series ? (highly reflective? Gusto ko kasi yung black lang)
    7) Vkool K series is their "magic tint" series?

    Thanks.

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    #1572
    Quote Originally Posted by joms View Post
    After doing some research, may i clarify some points namely:

    1) For Vkool tints, all series will have problems with RFID except the VK series. Is this correct?
    2) Will the Vkool tints also degrade the signal of cellphones? (except the VK series?)
    3) Vkool VK series only has 2 options, VK40 and VK70 (or are there more) both of which are colored green? Is this correct?
    4) BF Ceramic Tint has no published TSER ratings, only heat rejection ratings. Is this correct? (Does anyone have their TSER rating)
    5) Does the 3M Crystalline series have metal? Will it have problems with RFID/Cellphones?
    6) 3M Black Chrome is their "magic tint" series ? (highly reflective? Gusto ko kasi yung black lang)
    7) Vkool K series is their "magic tint" series?

    Thanks.
    Most (if not all) of your questions are answered in the 1570 replies above

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    #1573
    Quote Originally Posted by joms View Post
    After doing some research, may i clarify some points namely:

    1) For Vkool tints, all series will have problems with RFID except the VK series. Is this correct?
    2) Will the Vkool tints also degrade the signal of cellphones? (except the VK series?)
    3) Vkool VK series only has 2 options, VK40 and VK70 (or are there more) both of which are colored green? Is this correct?
    4) BF Ceramic Tint has no published TSER ratings, only heat rejection ratings. Is this correct? (Does anyone have their TSER rating)
    5) Does the 3M Crystalline series have metal? Will it have problems with RFID/Cellphones?
    6) 3M Black Chrome is their "magic tint" series ? (highly reflective? Gusto ko kasi yung black lang)
    7) Vkool K series is their "magic tint" series?

    Thanks.
    1. No. VK has issues with RFID, had to stick out my EasyTrip all the time before. You won't be able to do that now with the RFID sticker so you'll have to cut around your tint.

    Also, I don't have RFID issues with my OEM20.

    2. No signal problems with any Vkool tint.

    3. Yes, VK40 and VK70 only.

    4. Yup no published TSER. I don't trust any product that relies only on anecdotal feedback with no measurable testing.

    5. No issue with 3M Crystalline on signal.

    6. Yes, 3M Black Chrome is reflective. 3M Color Stable is the black tint you're looking for.

    7. Yes, Vkool K-series is reflective magic tint.

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    #1574
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    1. No. VK has issues with RFID, had to stick out my EasyTrip all the time before. You won't be able to do that now with the RFID sticker so you'll have to cut around your tint.

    Also, I don't have RFID issues with my OEM20.

    2. No signal problems with any Vkool tint.

    3. Yes, VK40 and VK70 only.

    4. Yup no published TSER. I don't trust any product that relies only on anecdotal feedback with no measurable testing.

    5. No issue with 3M Crystalline on signal.

    6. Yes, 3M Black Chrome is reflective. 3M Color Stable is the black tint you're looking for.

    7. Yes, Vkool K-series is reflective magic tint.

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    Thank you for the help.

    Due to this, I have decided to look elsewhere. I Initially wanted to try out BF Ceramic but like what you said, it is dubious why they would not post the TSER rating of their products in their website/facebook. If they are confident enough with their product, then they shouldn't be hiding these things. In fact I tried to contact them to ask them directly what the TSER rating of their tints were and their reply to me was "you can go here and we will test it for you". I asked, "haven't you tested it before?" "Can't you just give it to me". They replied that it was their protocol so I guess that's that. But wait, i tried google again to see if someone has luckily acquired or tested BF ceramic tints and determine their TSER rating but unfortunately, it also turned to a dead end. This made me turn my back on BF Ceramic as I don't want to pursue a company that is not transparent enough to post the facts in their website/FB page. Take note, 3M, Vkool, Huper Optik and Sunbloc all had the TSER of their tints posted (or can be easily found in google).

    Anyway, this is where I am right now:

    a) BF Ceramic - OUT because I am not interested to deal with a company that hides their TSER rating
    b) Vkool - OUT because signal is important to me (rfid/cellphone/usb pocket wifi/etc)
    c) Sunbloc - Maybe. Need to check them out more but their TSER isn't that good
    d) 3M - Maybe but their TSER is not that good. (I'm looking at their CS20/CS35 combo which is what im using now with my current ride). Their Crystalline looks ok but i don't like the color.
    e) Huper Optik - I am leaning towards this. It is more expensive but this is the best so far. I am looking at their Ceramic C20 for the sides and either C30 or C40 for my windshield. (price is around P26k for this)

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    #1575
    Quote Originally Posted by joms View Post
    Thank you for the help.

    Due to this, I have decided to look elsewhere. I Initially wanted to try out BF Ceramic but like what you said, it is dubious why they would not post the TSER rating of their products in their website/facebook. If they are confident enough with their product, then they shouldn't be hiding these things. In fact I tried to contact them to ask them directly what the TSER rating of their tints were and their reply to me was "you can go here and we will test it for you". I asked, "haven't you tested it before?" "Can't you just give it to me". They replied that it was their protocol so I guess that's that. But wait, i tried google again to see if someone has luckily acquired or tested BF ceramic tints and determine their TSER rating but unfortunately, it also turned to a dead end. This made me turn my back on BF Ceramic as I don't want to pursue a company that is not transparent enough to post the facts in their website/FB page. Take note, 3M, Vkool, Huper Optik and Sunbloc all had the TSER of their tints posted (or can be easily found in google).

    Anyway, this is where I am right now:

    a) BF Ceramic - OUT because I am not interested to deal with a company that hides their TSER rating
    b) Vkool - OUT because signal is important to me (rfid/cellphone/usb pocket wifi/etc)
    c) Sunbloc - Maybe. Need to check them out more but their TSER isn't that good
    d) 3M - Maybe but their TSER is not that good. (I'm looking at their CS20/CS35 combo which is what im using now with my current ride). Their Crystalline looks ok but i don't like the color. ,
    e) Huper Optik - I am leaning towards this. It is more expensive but this is the best so far. I am looking at their Ceramic C20 for the sides and either C30 or C40 for my windshield. (price is around P26k for this)

    Nung pinapalitan ko ng BF Pro medium yung pick-up ko nag measure sila ng TSER sa tint na pinili ko, pinakikita nila sa akin, hindi kolang pinansin.
    Tiningnan kolang kung maliwanag tingnan sa labas, reklamo kasi driver ko hirap siya mag drive sa gabi sa old tint na 3M magic 30 sa WS.
    Ngayon wala ng reklamo, mas malamig daw at maliwanag sa gabi. Sa BF Grace Park ako nagpa instal, isinabay konarin ipa ayos yung trunk bed lining.

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    #1576
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Nung pinapalitan ko ng BF Pro medium yung pick-up ko nag measure sila ng TSER sa tint na pinili ko, pinakikita nila sa akin, hindi kolang pinansin.
    Tiningnan kolang kung maliwanag tingnan sa labas, reklamo kasi driver ko hirap siya mag drive sa gabi sa old tint na 3M magic 30 sa WS.
    Ngayon wala ng reklamo, mas malamig daw at maliwanag sa gabi. Sa BF Grace Park ako nagpa instal, isinabay konarin ipa ayos yung trunk bed lining.

    Napapa isip lang ako why they don't publish their TSER? No logical explanation unless their TSER is lower than their competitors while their price is higher.

    Also, pag ni publish nila yung TSER nila then they will be accountable to those figures else pwede silang kasuhan ng fraud. All they are publishing is the heat rejection figures which don't show the real picture.

    Sayang lang kasi if they are truly legit then they just lost a potential customer. I would've gotten their supreme ceramic if only i'd known their TSER (and of course if it is competitive). With what they are doing now, it appears that they are banking on the people who don't know about TSER and instead focuses on the heat rejection numbers. Para silang yung mga nagbebenta ng speakers with 5000 watts+ max.

    Another thing which made me decide to turn my back on them is that they don't have that much reviews internationally unlike 3M/Vkool/Huper Optik na kilalang kilala na worldwide. Try it. Google "BF Ceramic tint" as well as youtube and see how many ang lalabas compared sa iba. Halos lahat sa Pinas pa.

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    #1577
    Quote Originally Posted by joms View Post
    Napapa isip lang ako why they don't publish their TSER? No logical explanation unless their TSER is lower than their competitors while their price is higher.

    Also, pag ni publish nila yung TSER nila then they will be accountable to those figures else pwede silang kasuhan ng fraud. All they are publishing is the heat rejection figures which don't show the real picture.

    Sayang lang kasi if they are truly legit then they just lost a potential customer. I would've gotten their supreme ceramic if only i'd known their TSER (and of course if it is competitive). With what they are doing now, it appears that they are banking on the people who don't know about TSER and instead focuses on the heat rejection numbers. Para silang yung mga nagbebenta ng speakers with 5000 watts+ max.

    Another thing which made me decide to turn my back on them is that they don't have that much reviews internationally unlike 3M/Vkool/Huper Optik na kilalang kilala na worldwide. Try it. Google "BF Ceramic tint" as well as youtube and see how many ang lalabas compared sa iba. Halos lahat sa Pinas pa.

    I dont know kung bakit wala silang published TSER, I dont care actually, when I was there, they are explaining to me about the properties of their tint, may mga gadgets pa silang hawak, all I said to them then is palitan na ninyo yung tint at nagmamadali ako. Ang point kolang dito from my first hand experience maganda performance nung tint, especially sa night driving, actually I shelved my plans to upgrade my headlights to HID, no need na.

    Vkool or sunbloc actually ang tint choices ko, dami kong inquiry dito sa magandang combination ng both tints, tiempo lang na yung katabi ng Top Up ay BF Tints, kaya BF yung pinalagay ko.

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    #1578
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post

    Vkool or sunbloc actually ang tint choices ko, dami kong inquiry dito sa magandang combination ng both tints, tiempo lang na yung katabi ng Top Up ay BF Tints, kaya BF yung pinalagay ko.
    Tsaka mas mura?


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    #1579
    Thanks sir for the reply and for the observation regarding the tint, i guess maganda yung performance in terms of it being lighter from the inside compared to your previous tint pero thats based on your drivers visual observation only.

    However, in terms of the total heat getting rejected, the true measurement of heat getting inside cannot really be confirmed by your driver just saying "mas malamig ngayon". Medyo madami kasing variables at external factors at play like the actual outside temp that day, kung cloudy ba or baka naka park sya sa semi shaded area or iba yung body temp ng driver mo that day or baka mas mahina yung aircon, etc. Tingin ko lang, it can only be known if we know the TSER as that measurement was done without any external factors involved.

    Thanks and have a nice day sir!

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    #1580
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Tsaka mas mura?


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    Yung vkool k28 k14 combo 9k yung bigay sa akin compared sa bf pro na binigay sa akin na 12k after discount. Pero ceramic yung bf kaya siguro mas mahal. May entry level yung BF 5K quote nila after discount mas mura sa 3M magic na pinakabit ko nuon.
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