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    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    Sa mga presidente ng nakalipas, si Pres. Marcos lang naka foresee na pag hinayaan mo ang mga pribadong kumpanya

    OT:

    How old are you? I bet you did'nt know what Marcos did to the big companies here in the Philippines during his rule.

    Think first before you answer to my post.

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    horrifying experience from witness account. medyo mahaba nga lang

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    TIMELINE FROM CEBUPAC CABIN | My 5J 971 near-death experience

    We were seated at row 22 with a great view of the back of the left engine that was heavily damaged. With smoke filling the cabin, and the airline staff not letting us out, I simply held my wife Joy and my son Jouno closer and prayed that there would be no explosion.

    4:25 p.m.

    It all started while we were waiting for boarding at Gate 16 in T2 of Ninoy Aquino International Airport. We were informed that our flight will be delayed for 20 minutes due to the late arrival of our turn-around aircraft much to the dismay of the passengers awaiting boarding. Nevertheless we patiently waited.

    4:30 p.m.

    But after 5 minutes, we were asked to transfer to Gate 20 as there were changes on the flight schedule. When we got there, we were directly boarded to an awaiting plane. I thought our original aircraft was still not here? Oh well, I guess this is better than waiting further. This change however turned out to be a critical one.

    4:45 p.m.

    A few seconds after the plane took off, I noticed a sudden change on the humming of the engine. It was pretty much like shifting to second gear in a car even when you haven’t got the initial speed that you want. I thought the timing was off. But we were able to reach our flying altitude yet it was rough sailing from then on. The fasten seat belt sign was turned on and off several times as there were a lot of air pockets and turbulence along the way.

    Throughout the flight, the passengers noticed something strange. The pilot went to the restroom about four times within an hour, and every time he got out he looked dazed. At one time he even asked the stewardess to make coffee for him. I do not want to make any speculations but most people can hold it even for the entire trip. A fellow passenger who was seated at the first few rows in front whom I was able to talk with after the incident proved this fact.

    6:25 p.m.

    The captain announced our flight details saying that we are already on our initial decent toward Davao International Airport and that we would land at 7:05 p.m. I remembered him saying that the weather was fair but a little cloudy in Davao, which generated a sigh of relief for most passengers.

    Then suddenly there was a really hard turbulence that went on for a while when the staff were collecting garbage disposals. They were ordered to go back to their seats and that we were already landing in a few minutes.

    6:55 p.m.

    One thing I really noticed was the speed when we approached the runway. I am a frequent traveler, and this is my 11th plane ride this year alone. We were really going in fast! I did not see the flaps moving even a bit when we were approaching the runway. Based on my experience it should have initially moved as we go nearer to subsequently decrease our airspeed but there was no movement at all. I was shocked when I looked out the window and we were that close to the ground at that speed!

    When we hit the ground it felt like a bowling ball hitting the floor. It was a really hard landing. Right on impact the flaps fully opened at once and the wheel was screeching like crazy. From the sound of it, the wheels were not turning at all as the pilot slammed the brakes to the floor hoping for a complete stop.

    This caused a lot of commotion from the passengers as we all lunged forward. I can hear all the hand carried baggage rumble to the front of the aircraft. I can just remember looking at my wife on my right and holding her hand and when I saw her in the emergency landing position, I just held on to my 5-year-old son tightly bracing for impact. I can see the family sitting adjacent to us doing the same and protecting their month-old baby.

    At the back of my mind I was thinking, this is it! I was waiting for something to blow up - the plane veered heavily to the right the sound of metal dragged on the ground was something you won't forget pretty soon and then I heard a pop from underneath us, probably the wheels breaking off or going aground, just before the plane took a front nose-dive on the grass. Luckily when the airplane stopped it didn't happen.
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    TIMELINE FROM CEBUPAC CABIN | My 5J 971 near-death experience - InterAksyon.com
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    Sabi nga dun sa nag post sa aviation herald, dapat everyone should stop speculating.

    pag kasi may ganyan nangyari lahat nagiging matalino eh. May experts para dyan, antay na lang tayo results ng investigation nila.

    Yun palang overshoot ng cebupac sa palawan wala pa din yun final report, paano pa kaya ito? kelan kaya lalabas?

    and question can other airlines sue cebu pac? dahil sa perwisyo na dinulot nila?

    the government? and other people na naperwisyo ang negosyo, cargo etc.

    and let say magbabayad ng danyos ang cebu pac, baka mas nakamura pa kung inalis na lang agad yun eroplano

    Yun ipambabayad sa danyos ipinambili na lang sana nila ng bago.

    sa itsura mukhang hindi na rin maaayos yun plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    OT:

    How old are you? I bet you did'nt know what Marcos did to the big companies here in the Philippines during his rule.

    Think first before you answer to my post.
    may mga tao parang na hypnotize talaga ng mga marcoses no? labo din.

    sa kamal kamal na ninakaw ni marcos, martial law era for them siya pa din ang napakagaling na pangulo.

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    #145
    Ang training lang mg mga crew ng Cebu Pac ay kung papaano mag benta during in-flight at papano kumuha ng basura sa mga pasahero para magamit agad yung eroplano. Wala talaga itong airline na ito. PAL na ako ngayon!

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    #146
    ^

    "snacks for sale" ..... pa-cute voice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    OT:

    How old are you? I bet you did'nt know what Marcos did to the big companies here in the Philippines during his rule.

    Think first before you answer to my post.
    Im old enough to know.

    If you know what he did, then maybe you like to tell me. At least i will know what you know instead of you assuming that i didn't know. Then maybe we will both know what we are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    Im old enough to know.

    If you know what he did, then maybe you like to tell me. At least i will know what you know instead of you assuming that i didn't know. Then maybe we will both know what we are talking about.
    For starters ... It was you who told us that Marcos had the vision to foresee na pag hinayaan ang pribadong kumpanya ... that sort of sh1t ...

    Tapos ngayon tatanungin mo ako? Saan mo narinig yang sinabi mo? Sa driver ng FX na sinakyan mo kaninang umaga?

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    #149
    meron ako nabasa, senior citizen sumakay ng Cebu Pac then nun nasa middle ng flight, nahihilo or something....and kailangan uminom ng gamot. niya when she asked for hot water, wala daw sabi ng FA....
    pero meron hot water pag umorder ng coffee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    may mga tao parang na hypnotize talaga ng mga marcoses no? labo din.

    sa kamal kamal na ninakaw ni marcos, martial law era for them siya pa din ang napakagaling na pangulo.
    Oh im sorry if it sounded like that. But what i was talking about is the foresight and the effort to stop big business from taking over the lives of the people. Let us limit it to that. What he did after taking action over the businesses is of course not anyone would admire.

    Even big economies have laws to somehow limit private business from growing too big or at least strictly regulate them. (monopolies, etc.)

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    #151
    I will never fly Cebu Pacific. I've heard enough horror stories about them. My Tita travels often and thinks Cebu Pacific pilots are horrible. For frequent travellers kasi, even if you don't wanna CePac, it's hard to avoid if they offer the most convenient time. I don't fly often so I would rather pay extra for PAL, it has its own terminal pa.

    My Mom wanted to try Cebu Pacific because a friend told her about the cheap airfare. I told her not to listen to her friend because she will definitely get what she will pay for. Then the news came out, she will never fly Cebu Pacific daw
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    #152
    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    This is what happens when the government allows a company to grow so big. Their greedy maneuverings take over the general welfare of the less moneyed people.

    Imagine the losses incurred by the ordinary Juan de la Cruz trying to make ends meet because of the simple failure to remove the obstruction in the airport. It took all of three days??

    I bet hindi man lang yan ma ground "pending investigation". Sa laki nila, mas marami mapeperwisyo pag na ground iyan. Sa mga presidente ng nakalipas, si Pres. Marcos lang naka foresee na pag hinayaan mo ang mga pribadong kumpanya na lumaki nang husto, eh mahohostage ang bayan sa kanila.

    Kelan kaya matatauhan gobrierno natin???
    Borgy, is that you? :D

    Have you ever ridden PAL before the airline industry was deregulated and new players started coming out? I don't... probably because what i remember more is constantly waiting 4-8 hours in a crowded, hot provincial airport for a delayed fligh to finally arrive or be repaired.

    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    OT:

    How old are you? I bet you did'nt know what Marcos did to the big companies here in the Philippines during his rule.

    Think first before you answer to my post.
    Makes you wonder what in the world these guys have been smoking... :twister3:
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    #153
    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    For starters ... It was you who told us that Marcos had the vision to foresee na pag hinayaan ang pribadong kumpanya ... that sort of sh1t ...

    Tapos ngayon tatanungin mo ako? Saan mo narinig yang sinabi mo? Sa driver ng FX na sinakyan mo kaninang umaga?
    What's wrong if I talked to the FX driver this morning? Masyado ba mababa pagkatao niya para sa yo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    meron ako nabasa, senior citizen sumakay ng Cebu Pac then nun nasa middle ng flight, nahihilo or something....and kailangan uminom ng gamot. niya when she asked for hot water, wala daw sabi ng FA....
    pero meron hot water pag umorder ng coffee...
    meron din sila hot water pag order ka ng instant noodles

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    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post

    Sa mga presidente ng nakalipas, si Pres. Marcos lang naka foresee na pag hinayaan mo ang mga pribadong kumpanya na lumaki nang husto, eh mahohostage ang bayan sa kanila.

    Kelan kaya matatauhan gobrierno natin???
    All the industries under Marcos time were controlled by his cronies... Disini, Danding, Campos, Benedicto, Tan etc.. Otherwise, they controlled most of everything. Power trip to the max ang mga Marcoses..I remembered the owners of PBM steel let their company go bankrupt rather that cede control to the Marcoses.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 5th, 2013 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    What's wrong if I talked to the FX driver this morning? Masyado ba mababa pagkatao niya para sa yo?
    OT:

    Hindi naman, pareho lang kayo walang malay sa mundo na tinatayuan nyo!

    Punta ka sa politics thread at dun ka magbasa para hindi ma OT tong thread na ito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    Oh im sorry if it sounded like that. But what i was talking about is the foresight and the effort to stop big business from taking over the lives of the people. Let us limit it to that. What he did after taking action over the businesses is of course not anyone would admire.

    Even big economies have laws to somehow limit private business from growing too big or at least strictly regulate them. (monopolies, etc.)
    Since you brought up monopoly.

    remember the time na PLDT lang ang nag ooffer ng means of communication?

    pahirapan kumuha ng landline, swerte na kung may party line ka.

    mobile phones era, dati libre ang text hindi piso per send

    traveling by airfare, hindi lahat maka afford makasakay sa PAL.

    here comes JG summit

    Sun cellular introduced unlimited texts and calls.

    Cebu pacific offered budget airfare.

    im not pro JG pero diba they changed the trend in business strategy?

    mas abot kamay ng mga tao ngayon, nagkaron tayo ng choice.

    yun nga lang poorer quality of service. still nagkaron ng option ang mamamayan.

    sorry for the OT

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    #158
    Tanong lang.

    Wala bang capability/equipment ang Davao INTERNATIONAL Airport na alisin ang mga eroplanong nag-overshoot?
    Bakit Cebu Pac lang may responsibility sa pag-alis nito?


    Isa pa, anung problema kung lumaki ang isang kumpanya tulad ng Cebu Pac?
    Gobyerno at Airlines ang may pagkukulang dito. Dapat trained ang airline personnel at dapat din ni-momonitor ito ng concerned govt agency.

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    #159
    should the govt break up PLDT?

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    You save a lot when you take CEBair promo compared PAL. I have a booked flight for HK, 3 thousand ang savings...

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