clutch problem

[attic_dude]

suggest ko lagay ka ng newspaper sa ilalim ng car. leave it overnight. then:
kapag black, diesel oil
light to dark brown, gasoline engine oil, and smells a bit like gasoline
kapag reddish, atf
kapag light to dark brown, smells like ****, gear oil
kapag almost clear to brown, brake fluid
kapag clear tapos medyo natutuyo, tubig na iyan. hehehe

i did something like that last night. yung leaked fluid was light to dark brown, almost black na ata. pero i was sure it didnt smell like ****. so i guess engine oil yun.

[attic_dude]

does engine oil always smell like gasoline? i had a check sa ilalim kasi ng auto ko and i found some light brown oil e, pero it didnt smell like gasoline. could it be brake fluid?

[attic_dude]

btw, wala siyang smell e. wala rin naman akong sipon kaya i'm sure na di barado ilong ko. i smelled it twice pa. naka dalawang balik na kasi ako sa trusted mechanic namin and he assured me na wala ng oil leak yung auto ko.

[MISFITS]

how long ba since you have replaced the clutch? how's the clutch fluid in your reservoir. kung nababawasan, may leak yan either sa clutch master cylinder or clutch slave cylinder. kung pudpod na kasi ang clutch, it should manifest sliding symptom; as in pag- engage mo ng gear, di agad humahatak yung auto, (tumataas yung rpm as you step on the accelerator pero forward thrust is delayed).
do you experience hard shifting at all times or when the car is at full stop( i.e. engaging first gear when the traffic light turns green at an intersection). baka nasa adjustment lang ng push rod yan kaya ganyan or maybe you need to have your gear oil changed

Mga sir,
I just need some additional info re clutch problem. i've noticed such symtoms as quoted above w/ my car (corolla xl, M/T), however, the hardshifting only occurs when the engine is hot, say 2 hour travel especially in traffic where you need to use your clutch all the time.
any input mga sir would be greatly appreciated especially like me na walang alam kundi gumamit lang ng sasakyan. hehehe.

[wewoy_romero]

you can actually make your car move forward by slowly releasing the clutch without stepping on the gas. I do this even on inclines like being stuck in traffic on a bridge. But then I have a 6 cylinder diesel engine ;)

sir is that a good practice? i sometimes do this on my civic. pag stop go traffic, i just release the clutch slowly without stepping on the gas.

[lm723]

MISFIT, same problem as mine. Pero, duda ko sa master and secondary ung sa akin kse bigla nawawala ung clutch pedal ung pressure, kaya nde ko na ma shift. I had my mechanic adjusted the pedal and double check again the master and secondary, nung umulit. Ika 3rd day ko na. So far nde pa umu-ulit, happened to me twice.

[kools]

1) Clutch Disc - noticed if your RPM is not in tune with the speed of the car. High RPM na wala pang hatak. Or try, with engine running, shift to first gear and release the clutch without stepping on the gas. If the engine does not vibrate or shows signs of under load your clutch disc is really wornout.

2) Pressure Plate - Hard shifting, need to push the pedal to the floor to shift.

3) Release/Tension Bearing - release bearing lang po. Tensioner bearing is for the timing belt and in some cars for the fan/ac/alt belt. To test the release bearing put the shifter in the neutral position and listen. If you hear a whinning or humming sound and it disappears when you step on the clutch medyo may tama na ang bearing mo. But this doesn't mean sira na yun. It could take years bago tuluyan bumigay yun.

4) Primary/Secondary Slave (usually leak diba?) o kaya lumulubod yun clutch o lumulusot ito.

5) Tranny Fluid - hard shifting, harsh sound. visual inspection sa gas station.

mga sir ask ko lang kong mga magkano ngayon ang Clutch Disc, Pressure Plate, Release Bearing? sliding na kasi ang clutch ko. ride ko pala nissan SS III. TIA

[speedyfix]

if may nagbabasa then may tulo. simple. i doubt it's brake fluid tho... malamang sumemplang na yung auto if malakas tulo ng brake fluid. check it tho. super easy to see the bf level naman.

[earthlyken]

any ideas kung how much papalit ng clutch, i mean the whole package, as in palit lahat?

kinda new on this stuff kasi eh..

[typhoon]

8K plus for me. All in na un.

Labor 1,500
FCC pressure plate 2,900
FCC clutch disk 2,300
release bearing 940
2 oil seals 1,000

[earthlyken]

8K plus for me. All in na un.

Labor 1,500
FCC pressure plate 2,900
FCC clutch disk 2,300
release bearing 940
2 oil seals 1,000

thanks for the reply,

replacement price po ba eto or orig?

92 corolla pala car ko, does the price still the same?

saan kayo nagpa service?

can you give me info nadin kung saan?

thanks dude..

[typhoon]

AFAIK orig yan FCC brand pati yung release bearing kase almost same price sa casa. Mas mura dyan kung replacement parts. Last March lang ako nagpapalit sliding na din kase.

94 Civic yung kotse ko so more or less e same price lang naman siguro sayo.

Sa Speedyfix ako nagpapaservice. Contact mo na lang si Migs dun sa sig nya

[chiekot]

Guys, clutch din ba ang culprit kung hirap sa akyatan ang liteace. Hirap kasi lalo na kapag paahon kahit ako lang ang sakay. Madalas naka 2nd gear lang ako sa liteace when my VTI can climb at 4th gear. Mga half kilometer slope na siguro 15 degrees inclination lang. Hahit na nakabualo na ako sa 3rd gear, sa kalagitnaan slowdown na ako sa 2nd gear. Sa patag wala namang problem kahit na full load. What seems to be the problem?

[Hanren]

I also have a related problem..pansin ko hirap ang makina pag akyatan first gear na parang nag vi vibrate yung manibela tapos biglang hahatak at hihina muli. This is especially true in first gear. It also happens in 2nd gear pero pag medyo mataas na rpm. May nararamdaman din akong vibration sa kambyo lalo na pag mababa ang gear. Sabi naman nila baka yung pressure plate ang me problema.. nag pa estimate na rin ako ng buong clutch kasi pag papalitan daw pressure plate, kelangan na rin palitan yung disk, bearing, etc para minsanan ang babaan... thanks in advance sa advise mga fellow tsikoters!!

[speedyfix]

prices of parts and labor will differ from car to car depending on how involved the work is to pull down the transmission.

[kotzkie]

pabuhay ng thread..
immha ving the same problem right now...
"3) Release/Tension Bearing - release bearing lang po. Tensioner bearing is for the timing belt and in some cars for the fan/ac/alt belt. To test the release bearing put the shifter in the neutral position and listen. If you hear a whinning or humming sound and it disappears when you step on the clutch medyo may tama na ang bearing mo. But this doesn't mean sira na yun. It could take years bago tuluyan bumigay yun."

ganito yung problem ng adventure ko.. bumili ako ng parts sa La Brava, tapat ng ATco. twice na kmi nag palit ng release bearing pero same output.. nandun pa din yung sound.. may suggestion po ba kayo?

[sirmykel]

1) Clutch Disc - noticed if your RPM is not in tune with the speed of the car. High RPM na wala pang hatak. Or try, with engine running, shift to first gear and release the clutch without stepping on the gas. If the engine does not vibrate or shows signs of under load your clutch disc is really wornout.

2) Pressure Plate - Hard shifting, need to push the pedal to the floor to shift.

3) Release/Tension Bearing - release bearing lang po. Tensioner bearing is for the timing belt and in some cars for the fan/ac/alt belt. To test the release bearing put the shifter in the neutral position and listen. If you hear a whinning or humming sound and it disappears when you step on the clutch medyo may tama na ang bearing mo. But this doesn't mean sira na yun. It could take years bago tuluyan bumigay yun.

4) Primary/Secondary Slave (usually leak diba?) o kaya lumulubod yun clutch o lumulusot ito.

5) Tranny Fluid - hard shifting, harsh sound. visual inspection sa gas station.

pabuhay po ng thread:

ask ko lang po sa #1 - naexperience na po namen yung sliding (mahina hatak, pero lakas RPM) sabi nung mekaniko ng bayaw ko papalitan na daw ng whole assembly (clutch)

gusto ko lang po marinig opinion nyo kung whole clutch na ba talaga?
ndi pa kasi ako nakakabalik kina speedy para pa check up.

anu kaya possible na sira dito? and replacements?

thanks po

[BoEinG_747]

malamang sliding clutch ka na nga

di naman sabay sabay nasisira lahat ng parts ng clutch assembly
(pressure plate,release bearing ,clutch disc ) sa Manual tranny

kaya lang kasi lahat pinapalitan na ,kasi para isang gawaan na lang or isang babaan na lang ng transmission mo at least nakatipid ka pa sa service charge

[speedyfix]

sabay talaga palit para one time lang trabaho.

[sirmykel]

chief speedy

eto po yung observations ko (after using last monday)
kasi before mga 2 weeks ako habang ng ccheck ako ng battery,
nakita yung air take tube nya merong crack, so nilagyan ko ng tape
para sarado na, ok naman yung takbo nya

then nung lingo sabi ng bayaw ko, nag slide na daw yung cluch,
which is naramdaman ko rin talagang 4k rpm 1st gear - 2nd gear 20kph
ang bagal alang hatak.

pero nung monday morning bago ako punta office iniisip ko kung yung
tape na nilagay ko yung problema. kaya tinanggal ko yung tape na nakabalot dun sa air intake tube. then after that nag ok na yung hatak nya 2k-2.5k rpm
1st gear - 2nd gear 20kph