Traffic!

[baludoy]

^ Since Toyota ang best selling car brand dito sa pinas, sa proposal na ito ang owners ng toyota ang pinakatatamaan dito

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

[JohnM]

^ Since Toyota ang best selling car brand dito sa pinas, sa proposal na ito ang owners ng toyota ang pinakatatamaan dito

Saya nyan! Bakanteng-bakante ang kalsada haha

[dct]

Ok ang mahal na registration sa old cars. Sounds like anti poor. Pero pag ganun na ang sistema, ang mangyayari dyan, sobrang bilis magdepreciate ang mga sasakyan kasi may "expiration" date na, so afford na din ng mga "poor" ang 2nd hand cars. So ganun din. Makapagpalit palit pa sila

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[17Sphynx17]

Ok ang mahal na registration sa old cars. Sounds like anti poor. Pero pag ganun na ang sistema, ang mangyayari dyan, sobrang bilis magdepreciate ang mga sasakyan kasi may "expiration" date na, so afford na din ng mga "poor" ang 2nd hand cars. So ganun din. Makapagpalit palit pa sila

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San ba yung may tax increase sa car registration along with road worthiness tests? Europe/uk ba?
Sa singapore, maliban sa certificate to own/purchase a car, parang may taning din dun na 10 years max age ng car ata then forced to change ka dahil sa mahal ng registration nila if you decide to keep it (if im not mistaken).

[shadow]

Ok ang mahal na registration sa old cars. Sounds like anti poor. Pero pag ganun na ang sistema, ang mangyayari dyan, sobrang bilis magdepreciate ang mga sasakyan kasi may "expiration" date na, so afford na din ng mga "poor" ang 2nd hand cars. So ganun din. Makapagpalit palit pa sila

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Kung kaya nila gastusan yun exuberant registration fees then good for them.

The older the vehicle mas madalas and mas mataas registration 3-4x a year depending on age.

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[dr. d]

in japan,
the shaken law.
in essence, the shaken law makes it very expensive to maintain a car that's several years old.
owners would rather buy a new car, than renew their privilege to use their 3-4-5 year old car.
guess where these 4-5 year old cars end up being exported to... after modifying to LHD, of course.

[dct]

San ba yung may tax increase sa car registration along with road worthiness tests? Europe/uk ba?
Sa singapore, maliban sa certificate to own/purchase a car, parang may taning din dun na 10 years max age ng car ata then forced to change ka dahil sa mahal ng registration nila if you decide to keep it (if im not mistaken).

Kung kaya nila gastusan yun exuberant registration fees then good for them.

The older the vehicle mas madalas and mas mataas registration 3-4x a year depending on age.

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Yun nga. Hindi totally ban. Bahala sila kung gusto nila ituloy o hindi. Kung mangyari yun, maging halaga ng lumang sasakyan baka less than 50k lang. So hindi talaga anti poor yan

in japan,
the shaken law.
in essence, the shaken law makes it very expensive to maintain a car that's several years old.
owners would rather buy a new car, than renew their privilege to use their 3-4-5 year old car.
guess where these 4-5 year old cars end up being exported to... after modifying to LHD, of course.

Masyado naman kasing sariwa ang 4 to 5 yrs old. Alam ko ginawa atang 10 yrs?

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[dr. d]

Yun nga. Hindi totally ban. Bahala sila kung gusto nila ituloy o hindi. Kung mangyari yun, maging halaga ng lumang sasakyan baka less than 50k lang. So hindi talaga anti poor yanMasyado naman kasing sariwa ang 4 to 5 yrs old. Alam ko ginawa atang 10 yrs?

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in japan,
there's no age limit vis a vis cars.
it just gets to be very expensive to legally operate an older car.
owners would rather buy a new car.
which helps support japan's car industry.

as my japanese acquaintance says,
"japan-the-government is rich. the citizen isn't."

[yapoy86]

in japan,
there's no age limit vis a vis cars.
it just gets to be very expensive to legally operate an older car.
owners would rather buy a new car.
which helps support japan's car industry.

as my japanese acquaintance says,
"japan-the-government is rich. the citizen isn't."

Di ba binibili din yung old car pang dagdag dun sa new car?

[17Sphynx17]

Di ba binibili din yung old car pang dagdag dun sa new car?

I think when it comes to those countries, wala naman may hare brained scheme na coding tulad sa atin. So there really was no need for more cars for 1 family na 'pang coding'.
Add to the fact limited and mahal ang puclic parking, kahit on street pa yan sa mga side streets.

Meron din na nagimplement na rush hour toll if you choose to bring you car into highly dense commercial area, right? SG does it, and taiwan din ata. Cant recall which european city does the same.

[kagalingan]

hindi gagana yang suggestion nyo.

tapunan nga ng ukay-ukay pinas. Tapos aasa kayo tataasan fine lumang kotse.

mobile nga ng pulis karag-karag na. Jeepney nga unliyears na tagal.

dadami lang excemption sa ganyan bolahan.

best eh limit car manufacturer. Konti ang usapan mas madali.

ang hilig ng peeenoise sa diskarteng pahirapan.

[dr. d]

I think when it comes to those countries, wala naman may hare brained scheme na coding tulad sa atin. So there really was no need for more cars for 1 family na 'pang coding'.
Add to the fact limited and mahal ang puclic parking, kahit on street pa yan sa mga side streets.

Meron din na nagimplement na rush hour toll if you choose to bring you car into highly dense commercial area, right? SG does it, and taiwan din ata. Cant recall which european city does the same.

i'd leave my car at home, if there was an effective public transport system in play.
i don't drive in hk, sg, etc. i take public transport.

[dr. d]

hindi gagana yang suggestion nyo.

tapunan nga ng ukay-ukay pinas. Tapos aasa kayo tataasan fine lumang kotse.

mobile nga ng pulis karag-karag na. Jeepney nga unliyears na tagal.

dadami lang excemption sa ganyan bolahan.

best eh limit car manufacturer. Konti ang usapan mas madali.

ang hilig ng peeenoise sa diskarteng pahirapan.

eh, 'di tataas ang used car sale industry and car repair industry.
but it still won't get rid of the already overflowing cars in edsa.
taxing them to death seems like a better idea. hatakin ang hindi magbayad!

[kagalingan]

pero ang importante dok nahalt yung yearly benta 500,000 cars a year. Hindi pa kasali sa figures yung motorcycle.

Mas madali lumawag pag walang nadadagdag.

just like population control.

[17Sphynx17]

i'd leave my car at home, if there was an effective public transport system in play.
i don't drive in hk, sg, etc. i take public transport.

Yes doc. I agree and also do the same when traveling.

Thats why we need 2 prong approach, reduction in private car volume and rationalization of public transpo to rail/ferry, bus, minibus/modern jeep for smaller roads. No more 'others' to simplify.

I dont believe in the argument na papaano senior kung walang stop where you want kasi other countries may senior naman pero wala sila ganung concern kasi discplined naman sila.

Ang need naman na approach dun is improvement of accessibility sa sidewalks so it starts woth the clearing, then improving accessibility ramps of wheelchairs and propoer points to cross (no jaywalking)

[kagalingan]

and lagyan ng DEDICATED ELEVATED BIKE LANE.

Believe me, biglang dadami bike to work. Takot lang kasi magbike kasi baka mahagip kotse/motor so risky pa.

sa traffic sa edsa eh syempre gawa ka na paraan magbike na pero syempre dapat may safe na structure. Mahirap makipagsabayan sa bus.

[leonleon]

Yun nga. Hindi totally ban. Bahala sila kung gusto nila ituloy o hindi. Kung mangyari yun, maging halaga ng lumang sasakyan baka less than 50k lang. So hindi talaga anti poor yanMasyado naman kasing sariwa ang 4 to 5 yrs old. Alam ko ginawa atang 10 yrs?

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Yes, cars in japan older than 10 years had to pass an extra test every 2 years.

Cars older than 13 years pay additional 10% annual tax which is like USD 25.00 every two years.

So this Shaken law is not really a dealbreaker to why japs dispose cars very fast.

More like most japs don't know much about cars or be bothered to maintain them well

That's the main reason they just buy new when something breaks down.

Parang mga rich people here lang.

Buy new when the car is sirain na.

[leonleon]

and lagyan ng DEDICATED ELEVATED BIKE LANE.

Believe me, biglang dadami bike to work. Takot lang kasi magbike kasi baka mahagip kotse/motor so risky pa.

sa traffic sa edsa eh syempre gawa ka na paraan magbike na pero syempre dapat may safe na structure. Mahirap makipagsabayan sa bus.

Bro naman, ang hirap kaya umakyat na may bitbit na bisikleta.

Na try mo na ba?

Heart attack abutin mo.

[kagalingan]

lalagayan naman syempre yung paakyat yung kagaya sa mga nakawheelchair.

pero dati natry ko binitbit ko bike ko. Bigat talaga pero nakatawid ako safe jan sa kanto galleria-edsa. Yan yung bago-bago pa ako magstreet bike. Natakot ako tumawid kasi puro bus eh.

ako kasi doon muna sa simple yung wala gaano gastos. Eh ito proposal ko sa mga masang-mananakay. Bigyan lang safe na daan bikers eh dadami yan. Hinid kasi pwede yun katabi mo bus, kotse, motorcycles eh kawawa ang bike.

[SoleusBB]

Grabe. Ano ba meron kanina?

San Juan to QC (T Morato & Q Ave) areas, halos 10kph ave speed lang...