Traffic!

[dr. d]

Left around 6:50am, arrived 9am! Passed by via Boni Serrano. Sabi ni Waze nung una 7:40 eta ko. Then pa add ng pa add yung time.

would going straight, then right to corinthian, then right to edsa, then u-turn under the flyover, be ok during that time?

[CVT]

would going straight, then right to corinthian, then right to edsa, then u-turn under the flyover, be ok during that time?

That would have been my preferred route too, as B.Serrano is unpredictable....

Anyway, waze was the one who assisted bro.bugsmobile... Seemed like something happened, he was already committed and waze could not get him out of the gridlock he's already in..

[chronicle]

The edsa / boni serrano intersection is a mess.
Agree, on the white planes route.
At least you have an option to go to ortigas ave or via edsa uturn slot.

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[Bravoexo]

EDSA's real vehicle volume capacity should really be determined once and for all. That's where we need to start. Next you find a way to limit cars and buses to enter EDSA at all points in a way you can count and control the volume of vehicles that enter it. Exiting EDSA puts car allocation back into the #cars allowed dynamically ... entering vehicles reduce car allocation 24/7.

Example:

If EDSA can hold/accomodate 10,000 vehicles at anytime. Break that down to how many Buses will be allowed at anytime, say 1000. Taxis/other PUVs - 1000. Cargo/Freight - 500. Then Private vehicles - will be the rest. At entry points, you have stops and monitoring stations that will allocate the flow of traffic based on dynamic numbers. Say MMDA allows 6000 vehicles in total. then at rush hour, they can increase that to 8000... and back to 6000 when its not rush hour.

[Lin Dan]

EDSA's real vehicle volume capacity should really be determined once and for all. That's where we need to start. Next you find a way to limit cars and buses to enter EDSA at all points in a way you can count and control the volume of vehicles that enter it. Exiting EDSA puts car allocation back into the #cars allowed dynamically ... entering vehicles reduce car allocation 24/7.

Example:

If EDSA can hold/accomodate 10,000 vehicles at anytime. Break that down to how many Buses will be allowed at anytime, say 1000. Taxis/other PUVs - 1000. Cargo/Freight - 500. Then Private vehicles - will be the rest. At entry points, you have stops and monitoring stations that will allocate the flow of traffic based on dynamic numbers. Say MMDA allows 6000 vehicles in total. then at rush hour, they can increase that to 8000... and back to 6000 when its not rush hour.

I agree though it may be a far cry. To follow is relocating giant establishments along edsa. They are part of the problem too.

[marky2115]

They should really impose moratorium to new commercial development sa Metro Manila. Too congested na talaga. No more new business districts na din. Opportunity para sa ibang regions naman.

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[kagalingan]

wala na. Mahirap na ayusin yan edsa pag puro kotse isip.

elevated bike lane na yan dami lalake magbike to work jan. Bigyan mo safe biking bakit ka pa magkotse problemahin pa parking. And pwede namna makaligo sa office.

Sa bike wala ng fuel, tahimik pa, mabilis din naman, naexercise ka pa. Ang hindi ko alng feel yung todo outfit na neon colored spandex.

[bugsmobile]

would going straight, then right to corinthian, then right to edsa, then u-turn under the flyover, be ok during that time?

That would have been my preferred route too, as B.Serrano is unpredictable....

Anyway, waze was the one who assisted bro.bugsmobile... Seemed like something happened, he was already committed and waze could not get him out of the gridlock he's already in..

The edsa / boni serrano intersection is a mess.
Agree, on the white planes route.
At least you have an option to go to ortigas ave or via edsa uturn slot.

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Yeah there was that option via White Plains then Edsa, but it was 20mins more. My eta if I took that route would be 8am instead of the supposedly 7:40am. I thought the Boni Serrano was route was better, huuuuge mistake! hehe. When I took the Boni route, Waze would say from time to time that there would be a delay like just 3-7 mins. Wish it would just have said that it would more than an hour delay from the start, & I would have turned around hehe.

[minicarph]

Wag na kayo maniwala sa waze, accurate lang sya pag gabi, minsan pag 11pm estimated to arrive home 20 min, pero 8 min andun na, walang traffic yun even sa waze

Ang totoo kasi nyan meron mga drivers na nag rereport na traffic even if hinde traffic sa isang lugar kasi 30 min following 2nd car nila be it the wife or the lolo or whatever, parang clear nila road for themselves

Waze algo is dependent on reports, minsan others would report no traffic on a congested area para ma divert ang mga gusto magmadali

Cyber psych war na ngsun

[BratPAQ]

I agree though it may be a far cry. To follow is relocating giant establishments along edsa. They are part of the problem too.

I heard that when edsa was built there should be no establishment along Edsa. Kaso politika at Red tape nanalo.

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[misseksaherada]

Wag na kayo maniwala sa waze, accurate lang sya pag gabi, minsan pag 11pm estimated to arrive home 20 min, pero 8 min andun na, walang traffic yun even sa waze

Ang totoo kasi nyan meron mga drivers na nag rereport na traffic even if hinde traffic sa isang lugar kasi 30 min following 2nd car nila be it the wife or the lolo or whatever, parang clear nila road for themselves

Waze algo is dependent on reports, minsan others would report no traffic on a congested area para ma divert ang mga gusto magmadali

Cyber psych war na ngsun

Ganun ba yun Sir Mini?
Eh di ba meron naman speedometer si WAZE? I mean hindi ba nila iku-consider yung speedometer sa algorithm ng mobile app nila
And kung mabilis naman ang pag drive mo sa area hindi ka rin agad makakapag report sa area na yun dahil mabilis umaandar ang sasakyan.. Unless maglaan ka ng time mo to stop and then report the area na traffic... And to consider that they need to have lots of users to report the same area na traffic..
Curious lang din po..

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[minicarph]

Ganun ba yun Sir Mini?
Eh di ba meron naman speedometer si WAZE? I mean hindi ba nila iku-consider yung speedometer sa algorithm ng mobile app nila
And kung mabilis naman ang pag drive mo sa area hindi ka rin agad makakapag report sa area na yun dahil mabilis umaandar ang sasakyan.. Unless maglaan ka ng time mo to stop and then report the area na traffic... And to consider that they need to have lots of users to report the same area na traffic..
Curious lang din po..

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ang nakukuha lang naman data ni Waze eh pag may Waze din meaning, if you report the status of your location, how accurate is that kung katabi mo Jeepney, Tricycle, Trike, Truck or Bus na di naman naka Waze nor may internet access

so kayo kayo lang Waze users lang at that particular point in time sa kalsada and mag-provide ng data kay Waze.

It's not as if Waze, uses Google Maps then Google Maps contacts Google Earth then Google Earth contacts the Satellite above you at that same point in time, takes a snapshot of the traffic bird's eye view to provide you with the most accurate picture of the congestion.


I did this already, one time I reported a road na congested, pero ako lang andun pero naka parada lang ako, and I knew sa main road traffic, 20 minutes later walang nag short cut dun kasi Sinabi ko may traffic

[minicarph]

so eto i-bold ko na lang para maintindihan ng lahat na it is futile to follow Waze on rush hour or worst case Manila Traffic scenarios.

if you ask me, Waze is a feel good Millennial generation app but it's not reliable.

Reliable siguro sya kung walang traffic , like going to Tagaytay from SLEX past 9pm. or going from Bicol to Quezon in 5 hours, but even dito palpak ang Waze pag dumaan nasa mga 2 lane barrios na Puno ng tricycles.

How does Waze work?
The Waze navigation mechanism
The power of Waze is in your hands. By simply driving around with the Waze open on your device, you share real-time information that translates into traffic conditions and road structure. When you use Waze, you can also actively report to the community on traffic, accidents, police traps, blocked roads, weather conditions and much more. Waze collects this information and immediately analyzes it in order to provide other Wazers with the most optimal route to their destination, 24 hours a day.

The easiest way to improve Waze is just to drive around with Waze turned on. Even if you are not using Waze to guide you, turn it on. You don't have to do anything.

Waze uses the information to calculate average speed, check for errors, improve road layout and learn road and turn direction. There is no need to make special trips with Waze. In fact, Waze works best on your regular trips and commuting.

The maps and navigation are powered by users. The more people drive with Waze open, the better the navigation.

Who is Waze designed for?
Waze is powered and used by drivers all over the world. Drivers connect to one another and work together to improve each other’s driving experience. As a community-based traffic and navigation app, Waze was created as a social navigation tool for private cars. Because of that, we don't currently support navigating in lanes dedicated to public transportation, bicycles or trucks.

How Waze learns your routes
In order for Waze to accurately give you the optimal route, depending on your settings, it needs to have accurate data for all neighboring segments and routes. Waze collects data for every road driven with the app open. Next time a specific road is driven with the app open, Waze will know to compare data between each possible route and will know better to suggest the optimal route.

We always work to improve the algorithm of the system so it will suggest the optimal route. However, there might be better routes than the ones suggested by Waze. Routing issues like this happen because the system works on real time and average statistics. We suggest that you take the suggested route a few times so that Waze can learn from it.

If, in your estimation, Waze doesn't give you the best route, it may be due to the following:

A map error somewhere along your preferred route.

A lack of correct speed/traffic data for that route.

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Internet connection
Waze was built assuming a data network connection would be present all, or at least most, of the time. For all aspects of Waze to operate, you must have an active data connection on your mobile device. This connection enriches Waze with real-time traffic related information and ensures an up-to-date map. Without an internet connection, you won't be able to locate or navigate a route.

If you have an intermittent connection, Waze will try to get data from the servers for traffic alerts and hazards, but may not be able to give you reliable information. Additionally, if Waze doesn't have a connection back to the Waze servers, you will not be able to post hazards. Waze does not cache reports or map issues to send later.

[misseksaherada]

ang nakukuha lang naman data ni Waze eh pag may Waze din meaning, if you report the status of your location, how accurate is that kung katabi mo Jeepney, Tricycle, Trike, Truck or Bus na di naman naka Waze nor may internet access

so kayo kayo lang Waze users lang at that particular point in time sa kalsada and mag-provide ng data kay Waze.

It's not as if Waze, uses Google Maps then Google Maps contacts Google Earth then Google Earth contacts the Satellite above you at that same point in time, takes a snapshot of the traffic bird's eye view to provide you with the most accurate picture of the congestion.


I did this already, one time I reported a road na congested, pero ako lang andun pero naka parada lang ako, and I knew sa main road traffic, 20 minutes later walang nag short cut dun kasi Sinabi ko may traffic

I see... Nalinawan ako Sir Mini.. Yung case nga na binanngit nyo ang applicable at isa sa mga disadvantage ni waze..
And tama nga.. Most of data analytics na applications mas tumatalino nga sila kapag marami users and input ng data.. Kahit nagku commute ako minsan ino open ko lang yung waze at nakakapag report kasi ako kapag commute lang pati nagtatagong police hehe..
Sana nga mas gawin pa nilang fun ang WAZE App para mas marami pa ang gumamit..
Minsan lang ako gumamit ng google maps dito sa Pinas.. Pero mas nakakatulong nga sya maglocate sa mga probinsya.. Kapag nasa ibang bansa, sobrang nakakatulong din Google Maps.. For daily use, kapag dito sa City mas trip ko waze.. Violet kasi.. Hahahahaha

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[Lin Dan]

I heard that when edsa was built there should be no establishment along Edsa. Kaso politika at Red tape nanalo.

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Back then most politicians are businessmen as well. Profits are on top of their agenda sadly.

[minicarph]

MMDA to manage Ortigas to Makati stretch
HPG to manage Timog to ortigas stretch

In the video, dami mentions ng may baril , babarilin




llooks like buset talaga MMDA sa mga tiga QC, so well armed HPG na katapat nila

Pero kami mga peace loving, prim and proper Ortigas to Makati, sa gunless MMDa kami coz we’re civilized

Reasons why HPG sa QC

- Coz of provincial buses and terminals na nasa QC
- ABS and GMA both in QC, mga reporters dun bias kasi gusto nila pag sakay nila sa edsa provinciial bus kagad to north or south neary province
- dami sa QC di nag respeto ng parking sa kalsada, everytime na lang subjecr nila Gadget adddict illegal terminal and parking sa commonwealth, balintawak, cubao etc.

Well, eto na katapat nyo, tall burly well trained Highway Patrol Group with guns.

When I was younger, I witnessed an event when a couple sped off from a chasing HPG motorcycle man, he shot the tires of the 2 door sportscar

And also when I was younger, I witnessed 2 carnappers running from away from the getaway vehicle on foot and hid sa mga trees sa sidewalk, HPG cornered them , minutes later putukan when the smoke cleared, 2 bogies down sprawled on the gutter

[shadow]

MMDA to manage Ortigas to Makati stretch
HPG to manage Timog to ortigas stretch

In the video, dami mentions ng may baril , babarilin




llooks like buset talaga MMDA sa mga tiga QC, so well armed HPG na katapat nila

Pero kami mga peace loving, prim and proper Ortigas to Makati, sa gunless MMDa kami coz we’re civilized

Reasons why HPG sa QC

- Coz of provincial buses and terminals na nasa QC
- ABS and GMA both in QC, mga reporters dun bias kasi gusto nila pag sakay nila sa edsa provinciial bus kagad to north or south neary province
- dami sa QC di nag respeto ng parking sa kalsada, everytime na lang subjecr nila Gadget adddict illegal terminal and parking sa commonwealth, balintawak, cubao etc.

Well, eto na katapat nyo, tall burly well trained Highway Patrol Group with guns.

When I was younger, I witnessed an event when a couple sped off from a chasing HPG motorcycle man, he shot the tires of the 2 door sportscar

And also when I was younger, I witnessed 2 carnappers running from away from the getaway vehicle on foot and hid sa mga trees sa sidewalk, HPG cornered them , minutes later putukan when the smoke cleared, 2 bogies down sprawled on the gutter

Oh *kagalingan bulok daw kayong mga tiga QC. [emoji23]

Sigurado hinde iimik yan si kags kay mini. Matyotyope yan or magdadahilan na Hinde true QC mga sinabi ni mini.


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[chronicle]

^
Rofl.

Wala pala si kags eh.
Oi kags, diba timog,cubao eh part pa ng true qc mo.

Pag tanggol mo true qc mo kay mini. Inaapi ka oh.

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[kagalingan]

kasalanan ba ng true qc bakit jan nagpwesto mga bus companies. EH symepre maganda location dito talaga madami terminal isa din kasi sa gitna ang cubao. Pero the true gitna si araneta ave-aurora-centerpoint.

ito si shaider patyope-tyope pa sinasabi eh ilan beses ko na ba binabanatan mga desel,makati,bgc. May nakapalag ba.

pumupulis pangkalawakan pabatikos-batikos pa sa pba eh dating kadamay fan yan na umurung na dahil hirap ng ipagtanggol si cagi the sparkles.