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    #81
    sana this time may political will

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    #82
    Sana nag roll out na lang muna sila ng ilang unit sa mga willing na operator. Pag nakita nung iba na maganda ang kita, maguunahan pa mga yun.

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    #83
    pag di makapasa sa vehicle inspection, impound

    tapos sobra mahal ang tubos para hindi ma-afford ng operator

    that will take jeepney's off the road

    tagal ko na sinasabi kelangan mo tanggalin ang mga jeepney sa kalye

    di pwede ung mag introduce ka ng jeepney replacement tapos nandyan parin mga lumang jeepney co-existing side by side

    dagdag sasakyan lang sa kalye yan

    dapat kung ilan nilabas mong bagong sasakyan, magtanggal ka ng lumang sasakyan

    March 20, 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    like i said before if you put X number of ejeepneys on the road but don't eliminate a corresponding number of diesel PUJ that's adding more vehicles on the road na pandagdag sa traffic... kahit electric pa mga yan. they still take up space
    Last edited by uls; January 12th, 2018 at 11:11 AM.

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    #84
    etong jeepney replacement topic na ito pinag uusapan namin ni GH, jpdm many years ago

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    #85
    i have nothing against old vehicles, as long as they pass the intended requirements.

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    #86
    90% daw hindi pumasa dun sa Multi million peso roadworthy check machine ng LTO. I think that percentage should be higher.

    I do agree that they should have a viable counter offer for jeepney drivers to surrender their dilapidated vehicles.

    I did see some beep vehicles in marikina. Probably its just the LGU’s own effort and not a metro wide initiated move.


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    i agree with uls.
    one thing for sure.
    if the political will wavers, "we all go back to square one".

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    #88
    Based on my experience on PUJs...

    Kahit bagong assemble pa yan, di talaga sya papasa sa maayos na inspection.

    Required stopping distance
    Alignment
    Gauges are not working (except for temp and amp)

    You will also notice na majority of jeeps is walang radiator cap... They just use an oversized radiator to keep the engine cool... Yung iba naman, may water tank sa bubong para mag add ng water sa radiator kapag umiinit na (although ginawa din namin ito sa taxis nung '90s).

    Although I find it unfair na kasama yung spare tire sa article posted earlier... Yung ibang cars nga wala nang spare tire, so di din sila road worthy?

    Naaawa man ako sa drivers, barkers pati sa mga may carinderia sa pila ng jeep (yung pila/terminal nila is actually illegal din)...

    Our PUVs needs to be modernized. The Tricycles must go (matuto tayo mag lakad). PUV drivers must be regular employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Based on my experience on PUJs...

    Kahit bagong assemble pa yan, di talaga sya papasa sa maayos na inspection.

    Required stopping distance
    Alignment
    Gauges are not working (except for temp and amp)

    You will also notice na majority of jeeps is walang radiator cap... They just use an oversized radiator to keep the engine cool... Yung iba naman, may water tank sa bubong para mag add ng water sa radiator kapag umiinit na (although ginawa din namin ito sa taxis nung '90s).

    Although I find it unfair na kasama yung spare tire sa article posted earlier... Yung ibang cars nga wala nang spare tire, so di din sila road worthy?

    Naaawa man ako sa drivers, barkers pati sa mga may carinderia sa pila ng jeep (yung pila/terminal nila is actually illegal din)...

    Our PUVs needs to be modernized. The Tricycles must go (matuto tayo mag lakad). PUV drivers must be regular employees.
    yan nga problem sa pinas puro awa kahit na lantaran na violation, ok lang kasi mahirap at marami mawawalan hanapbuhay. How about safety ng mga passengers? Ano makukuha nila sa mga ganitong driver at operator, e mismo mga sasakyan nila di pa maiayos[emoji23] [emoji23]

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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1 View Post
    90% daw hindi pumasa dun sa Multi million peso roadworthy check machine ng LTO. I think that percentage should be higher.

    I do agree that they should have a viable counter offer for jeepney drivers to surrender their dilapidated vehicles.

    I did see some beep vehicles in marikina. Probably its just the LGU’s own effort and not a metro wide initiated move.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    yan nga problem sa pinas puro awa kahit na lantaran na violation, ok lang kasi mahirap at marami mawawalan hanapbuhay. How about safety ng mga passengers? Ano makukuha nila sa mga ganitong driver at operator, e mismo mga sasakyan nila di pa maiayos[emoji23] [emoji23]
    naawa lang naman ako... pero sabi ko kailangan pa din i-modernize

    dapat talaga big corporations lang nagpapatakbo ng PUVs natin.

    Look at buses, palaging may company na hahanapin kapag may violation... may fleet na pwedeng i-suspend/penalize

    sa jeeps/tricycle iba sinasabi ng driver, iba sinasabi ng operator.

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    pinabayaan kasi ng gobyerno ang PUVs for many decades kaya eto tayo

    pinayagan kasi ng gobyerno tumakbo sa kalye ang mga mad max na sasakyan

    mga jeepney, tricycle, pedicab, kuliglig

    driven by illiterates

    tapos may batas requiring child seats?!

    WTF

    mad max 3rd world dystopian country that allows this...



    and you're talking about child seats?!

    get rid of the f#cking backyard assembled motor vehicles muna

    then let's talk child safety

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    Hmm. Bakit panay sa metro manila lang ang pag sita?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Pera pera lang. Pumapasa sa LTO "emission test" ever year pero ngayon lang huhuliin sa daan (and hindi sa LTO yearly inspection).

    What kind of message are they trying to send?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    actually nagulat ako sa stats ng jeep inspection nila...
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    nagulat akong may pumasa! ! ! !

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    yes the regulatory bodies arent doing their mandates...🤔🤔🤔 reshuffle!

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    here's an article from 2009

    Here comes jeepney’s replacement, the Beep
    by Roy Pelovello

    ABOUT half of the 400,000 jeepneys in the country may no longer be allowed to ply their routes next year following stricter registration standards, an official said yesterday.

    Alberto Suansing, chairman of the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board, made the statement at the launching of the Beep, a combination bus and jeep, as an alternative to the jeepney, a modified version of the Jeep used by the US military during World War II.

    The Beep was inspired by the European Gruau Microbus and is a project of Almazora Motors Corp. and Mitsubishi Motors Philippines.

    The [Land Transportation Office] has come up with new regulations on the inspection of motor vehicles, and we expect many public utility vehicles will not meet the requirements,” Suansing said.

    I would say almost 50 percent of the jeepney population will be affected.”

    The LTO will require public utility vehicles—jeepneys in particular—to have speedometers, hand brakes, headlights and wipers, among other things, according to Joel Donato, head of the agency’s Motor Vehicle Inspection Service.

    We are implementing these requirements with the start of registration in January 2010,” he said.

    Suansing said jeepney owners failing to comply with the new rules should start thinking of buying brand-new replacements—including the Beep.

    A brand-new jeepney with a surplus engine costs around P450,000, and a new one with a new diesel engine is priced around P600,000.

    By comparison, a Beep costs around P1.6 million. The Beep’s body is designed and manufactured by Almazora Motors, while the chassis with its brand-new FUSO Canter light-duty truck engine is supplied by Mitsubishi Motors Philippines. Mitsubishi says the engine complies fully with Philippine emission and safety regulations.

    The Beep can carry 26 passengers, with seating for 18 including the driver and standing for eight.

    “The first consideration here is safety. Some of [the jeepneys] are accidents waiting to happen, and then you have environmental concerns,” Suansing said, adding the LTO’s new requirements dovetailed with his agency’s goal of reducing the number of jeepneys on the streets and replacing them with the Beeps.

    Almazora’s vice president for vehicle sales, Dante Santos, said the Beep could be the answer to Metro Manila’s worsening traffic and pollution problems.

    He cited a government report saying jeepneys contribute 50 percent of the pollution in the area, and that the traffic flow there is choked “by oversized jeepneys with an excessive turning radius that usually clog the U-turn slots.”

    Around 70,000 of the estimated 400,000 jeepneys in the country ply routes in Metro Manila.

    may plano i-phase out ang jeepney dati pa

    using the same strategy

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    you set standards that almost no jeepneys will pass (that should be easy)

    pag di pumasa, no renewal

    pag di pumasa, impound (better)

    that's how you phase out those mad max vehicles

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    then you open up the market to new PUVs

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    then you let China suppliers come in

    haha
    Last edited by uls; January 12th, 2018 at 06:06 PM.

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