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    #61
    Sakit sa ulo ang dami mandurugas

    Bili na lang brand new

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    Better to buy directly from owner sellers ... Avoid acquiring vehicles from buy and sell agents as much as possible ... they almost always rewind the odometer ... even if it's digital ...

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    Yung friend ko nga 7 years na car nya nasa 6,800 pa lang mileage, as in super bihira nya gamitin, pinapa andar lang araw araw, nagulat nga ako hehe, tapos every 6 months daw change oil, ok kaya to kung bilhin ko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by endoo View Post
    Yung friend ko nga 7 years na car nya nasa 6,800 pa lang mileage, as in super bihira nya gamitin, pinapa andar lang araw araw, nagulat nga ako hehe, tapos every 6 months daw change oil, ok kaya to kung bilhin ko?
    what model?
    is he gonna sell it at 7 year old car price?
    kung ayaw mo, i-pasa mo samin!
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 9th, 2017 at 11:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Better to buy directly from owner sellers ... Avoid acquiring vehicles from buy and sell agents as much as possible ... they almost always rewind the odometer ... even if it's digital ...
    Korek +1 here

    Para malaman mo kung hindi ginalaw ang odo, dapat match siya sa production date ng limang gulong. Para makalbo at magpalit ng gulong ang tire life sa normal driving is around 45k to 60k kms (sobrang kalbo na to sleek tires na hehe). Isa pa eh para magpalit ka ng disc pad at brake shoe nasa 20k to 25k naman. Kaya pagbuy ka ng 2nd hand at ang sabi 15k lang takbo check tire wear at production date lang huli mo na kung niloloko ka kung malaman mo pa nagpalit radiator, aux fan, valve cover gasket eh alam mo na around 80k to 90k kms na.
    Normal use araw2 ncr area around 10 to 15k kms a year. Konting factors lang po when buying secondhand cars po.


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    #66
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    what model?
    is he gonna sell it at 7 year old car price?
    kung ayaw mo, i-pasa mo samin!
    heh heh.
    2010 V Series toyota fortuner 4x4 binebenta nya 650k may mga minor dents piro di masyado halata, nagtaka nga ako pag test drive ko bat ganito lang mileage nito sabi nya yan talaga original mileage pati mga tita nya at tito ganun din sabi sa akin di guinagamit masyado kase tinatamad mag park malayo kse parking nya, good deal na ba to?

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    Sorry guys newbie here,
    Im one of the latest victims ng odometer fraud.. Bought a innova 2009 with odo 78k kms tapos pag dating sa casa na pms naman last april 125k kms..
    I bought it sa marikina seller name Jon Herrera try niyo po i search tong madurugas na yan...
    Masama loob ko..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gab286 View Post
    Sorry guys newbie here,
    Im one of the latest victims ng odometer fraud.. Bought a innova 2009 with odo 78k kms tapos pag dating sa casa na pms naman last april 125k kms..
    I bought it sa marikina seller name Jon Herrera try niyo po i search tong madurugas na yan...
    Masama loob ko..
    i bought mine, new. it's already got 120K km, and still going fine.
    perhaps, despite the "fraud", your buy is still in good condition.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 26th, 2017 at 12:27 AM.

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    What about kung amoy bago pa ang loob ng car as basis? That smell couldn't get replicated right? I tried looking for any car air freshener even those labeled as new car smell hindi pa rin eh.

    Reason I'm asking is I bought myself a 2nd hand car na 7km+ pa lang, OFW ang owner so hindi daw nagagamit. May noticeable wear and tear sa external kasi daw walang roof ang parking but internally amoy bago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gab286 View Post
    Sorry guys newbie here,
    Im one of the latest victims ng odometer fraud.. Bought a innova 2009 with odo 78k kms tapos pag dating sa casa na pms naman last april 125k kms..
    I bought it sa marikina seller name Jon Herrera try niyo po i search tong madurugas na yan...
    Masama loob ko..
    Usually, naka-log din yung PMS record (and mileage) dun sa warranty booklet that came with the manual. I guess one thing to keep in mind when checking din. Unless, tinago din ng seller?

    Kung maayos naman tumakbo and no major problems surface in the next few months, don't feel too bad. I know if you knew about the higher odometer reading you could have negotiated for a lower price, pero wag mo na isipin yun. If okay naman na purchase mo, ayos na yun. After all, with the available info (that you knew at the time), you found the asking price to be reasonable given what you were buying so don't beat yourself too much.

    I know the feeling. Para kang bumili ng expensive item tapos the following day, nag 50% off sale na di sinabi ng saleslady

    Loko yung seller na yun ah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleusBB View Post
    Usually, naka-log din yung PMS record (and mileage) dun sa warranty booklet that came with the manual. I guess one thing to keep in mind when checking din. Unless, tinago din ng seller?

    Kung maayos naman tumakbo and no major problems surface in the next few months, don't feel too bad. I know if you knew about the higher odometer reading you could have negotiated for a lower price, pero wag mo na isipin yun. If okay naman na purchase mo, ayos na yun. After all, with the available info (that you knew at the time), you found the asking price to be reasonable given what you were buying so don't beat yourself too much.

    I know the feeling. Para kang bumili ng expensive item tapos the following day, nag 50% off sale na di sinabi ng saleslady

    Loko yung seller na yun ah.
    maayos nga tumakbo, ngayon.
    what buyers are worried about is, gaano katagal bago hindi na maayos tumakbo?
    i am of the belief that, all other factors being equal, the car with the lower odometer reading, will run maayos longer than another car with a much higher odometer reading.
    malaking bargaining chip ang kotseng may mababang odometer reading.

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    Aside from the tampered odometer, what I am more uncomfortable is the deceit of the seller. Kung yung odometer na dinaya nya, I'm wondering ano pa kaya kasinungalingang ginawa nya sa kotse na di alam ng buyer.

    It's a trust issue for me.

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    #73
    Quote Originally Posted by remzam View Post
    Aside from the tampered odometer, what I am more uncomfortable is the deceit of the seller. Kung yung odometer na dinaya nya, I'm wondering ano pa kaya kasinungalingang ginawa nya sa kotse na di alam ng buyer.

    It's a trust issue for me.

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    this is also true, i'm afraid.

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    #74
    2017 pa yun pero baka hindi lang clear. Baka ginawa yung PMS for 120km pero yung actual odo reading mababa pa lang. Verify with casa kung anu yung actual odo reading during the PMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godfadger View Post
    2017 pa yun pero baka hindi lang clear. Baka ginawa yung PMS for 120km pero yung actual odo reading mababa pa lang. Verify with casa kung anu yung actual odo reading during the PMS.
    isn't that what the guy did?
    i have read on more than one instance, that these digital odometers can be tampered with.
    and yes, it constitutes criminal fraud to do so.

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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Cccj View Post
    What about kung amoy bago pa ang loob ng car as basis? That smell couldn't get replicated right? I tried looking for any car air freshener even those labeled as new car smell hindi pa rin eh.

    There is ...
    Chemical Guys - New Car Smell Premium Air Freshener & Odor Eliminator (16 oz)

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    #77
    Thanks. Have you tried this? Does it work?

    I tried others before that claims that new car smell pero iba pa rin eh.

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    maayos nga tumakbo, ngayon.
    what buyers are worried about is, gaano katagal bago hindi na maayos tumakbo?
    i am of the belief that, all other factors being equal, the car with the lower odometer reading, will run maayos longer than another car with a much higher odometer reading.
    malaking bargaining chip ang kotseng may mababang odometer reading.
    Yes. But at this point in time however, (practically) not much can be done about it anymore.

    All I'm saying lang naman for the poster is to try to be optimistic na lang about it, and not to be too hard on himself because it can happen to even the most OC of buyers.

    Ika nga nga, if life gives you a lemon, you can go on griping about what a sour deal you got or... make lemonade out of it and make it sweet.

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