Filing a complaint against your dealer with the LTO

[Popoy Lagman]

Tuturuan ko na din kayo mag file ng civil complaint laban sa dealers nyo at isang paraan para pwersahin ang dealer ma register kayo ng pitong araw.

Yung latter, plantsahin ko pa. Mag interview muna ako ng mga tao at after ko kunin plates ko.

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Tuturuan ko na din kayo mag file ng civil complaint laban sa dealers nyo at isang paraan para pwersahin ang dealer ma register kayo ng pitong araw.

Yung latter, plantsahin ko pa. Mag interview muna ako ng mga tao at after ko kunin plates ko.

This is the sad truth. Only the dealers can process initial registration of new vehicles after submitting the proper documents including the sales report, stock certificate, etc. Administrative Order AVT-2014-024 - "Revised Rules and Regulations Governing the Sales and Reporting and Initial Registration of Brand New and Other Motor Vehicles" should have all the information about this. But before dealers can register these vehicles, they need to have LTO accreditation. This accreditation can be cancelled based on several grounds including submitting falsified sales report. Administrative Order AVT-2014-023 should have all the relevant information. Sadly, dealers do not violate any of the provisions to warrant cancellation of accreditation. They can file for the car registration anytime they want. Of course, they will only do that when the sale has been completed. For the LTO, if the delay is their fault, there's a rule in place that they can issue temporary permit that a car owner can use while waiting for his plates. And for the dealers? They'll give you dummy sales invoices like what they did to me and will instruct you to present one of these invoices when apprehended not knowing the heavier penalty you will incure when caught using these fake invoices. I still don't have my license plates upto this point (almost 5 months now). We already lodge a formal complaint at LTO and also planning to do the same at DTI and likely a civil action as well.

You can also post your concerns at your dealer's FB page. I posted mine at Ford Ph FB page and they are quick to reply, they said they'll be the ones to follow up with the dealership. They're asking for my contact details but told them that all related communications should be directed at my lawyer's office.

[wowiesy]

may nakapag try na kaya na... habang nag nego pa lang sa car... kasama ang DELIVERY ng OR/CR and plates sa usapan? like a portion of downpayment.. release ng unit... then hindi irelease yung next payment hanggang di lumabas or cr at plates?

[Jesto]

may nakapag try na kaya na... habang nag nego pa lang sa car... kasama ang DELIVERY ng OR/CR and plates sa usapan? like a portion of downpayment.. release ng unit... then hindi irelease yung next payment hanggang di lumabas or cr at plates?

This should be the standard to force the dealers to work fast.

[vade29]

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do the diplomats remove their blue plates before selling their diplomatic car? i do not know the answer.
baka naman may third party na nag-interes at siya ang kumuha..?

also, i think there may be some taxes to be paid, if such diplomatic (entered or bought tax-free) cars are bought by people who do not have diplomatic privilege..

good luck.

yes they take the blue plate with them, i think the plate is assigned to a single diplomat so you can't really transfer it once you sold the car.

as for the taxes, etc. i believe everything has been taken cared of, i.e. registration with the new owner is already complete. bale yung plate na lang talaga ang kulang at nag lapse na yung 45 day na sinasabi ni LTO na marerelease dapat yung new plates.

[vade29]

Nag submit naba kayo sa LTO?

If so, hingi kayo ng temporary permit or something.

yes sir nasa new owner na yung OR/CR. naiinis lang yung nakabili kasi nag lapse na nga yung 45 days na sinasabi na marerelease dapat yung plates

[macsd]

Dapat ang i-complain ang LTO. They invented this problem with their new plate scam.

[vade29]

Dapat ang i-complain ang LTO. They invented this problem with their new plate scam.

yun nga sinasabi nung kakilala ko. LTO probelma dito e

[macsd]

Dapat ang i-complain ang LTO. They invented this problem with their new plate scam.

[wowiesy]

This should be the standard to force the dealers to work fast.

but market forces also at play here... who wants the transaction more.. the buyer of the vehicle na gusto agad makuha unit... or yung dealer na gusto makabenta... sadly yung gobyerno uli ang nahuhuli...

may conduction sticker dba...and yan allocated.. coordinated with lto.. bakit di na lang pagka daong sa pier allocated na plate number para di na oorder.. andyan na e... then sa or cr ang idagdag na lang ay yung mahiging registered owner...

[Popoy Lagman]

may nakapag try na kaya na... habang nag nego pa lang sa car... kasama ang DELIVERY ng OR/CR and plates sa usapan? like a portion of downpayment.. release ng unit... then hindi irelease yung next payment hanggang di lumabas or cr at plates?

Meron ba ditong nakabili ng sasakyan na full payment at hindi through financing? Kasama ba sa contract of sale na ideliver pati ang registration certificate at plates ng sasakyan? Yung sakin kasi through bank financing kaya hindi ko alam kung anong rights ang pwede kong ipa-enforce like kung mag file ng civil case..

[wowiesy]

kasi what good is a vehicle if it is not registered? even if dealers "give free lto" as part of package... unable naman ang buyer mismo ang mag register.. since yung ibang records ( tax payments, etc) nasa dealer / brand owner... so dapat kasama... i think dti ang mag spearhead dapat nito.. dotc lro is only concerned sa fees na kikitain nila apparently...

[b_9904]

yes sir nasa new owner na yung OR/CR. naiinis lang yung nakabili kasi nag lapse na nga yung 45 days na sinasabi na marerelease dapat yung plates

Pwede kana ata kumuha ng papel sa LTO para exemption or something eh. sila naman may sala na.

[b_9904]

UPDATE:

Nasa LTO database na ako.

May kasama akong Dzire, Swift, at Ertiga GLX.

Hurray for the four of us.

[kinyo]

may nakapag try na kaya na... habang nag nego pa lang sa car... kasama ang DELIVERY ng OR/CR and plates sa usapan? like a portion of downpayment.. release ng unit... then hindi irelease yung next payment hanggang di lumabas or cr at plates?

Ganyan gawa ko sa dealer ... hindi ko ilalabas ang oto kapag walang plaka ... mabilis pa sa alas kwatro magparehistro ang mga kumag.

[b_9904]

Ganyan gawa ko sa dealer ... hindi ko ilalabas ang oto kapag walang plaka ... mabilis pa sa alas kwatro magparehistro ang mga kumag.

Cool story bro.

[astroboywonder]

Ganyan gawa ko sa dealer ... hindi ko ilalabas ang oto kapag walang plaka ... mabilis pa sa alas kwatro magparehistro ang mga kumag.

Hi sir, possible po ba yan? Newbie lng po kasi ako in terms of buying my first car. Honestly i am leaning to get my first car in suzuki commonwealth pero dami ko nababasa na problem din po dun. Any advice po. Anu po ba ang dapat kong i-demand or sabihin to get this done. Sa tingin ko wala na po yata matinong dealer [emoji111]🏻️[emoji16]

[kinyo]

Hi sir, possible po ba yan? Newbie lng po kasi ako in terms of buying my first car. Honestly i am leaning to get my first car in suzuki commonwealth pero dami ko nababasa na problem din po dun. Any advice po. Anu po ba ang dapat kong i-demand or sabihin to get this done. Sa tingin ko wala na po yata matinong dealer [emoji111]🏻️[emoji16]

oo totoo yan ... car dealers don't want to have a car already sold on their lot ... it takes up space for new units! ... sagutin pa nila kung may masamang mangyari

before giving them any money, ask if they have all the papers ready for registration, let them show it to you, (take a photo with ur phone for reference and because you will never see those papers again) ... if satisfied with what you see, there's no reason to delay the registration ... the registration process only takes an hour or two if papers are complete ... and if lucky, you will be asked what ending number you prefer

the LTO website lists the papers required for registration
MOTOR VEHICLE-RELATED TRANSACTIONS

dalawang beses ko na nagawa ito ... sinamahan ko ang liason ng dealer sa LTO para masigurado matapos ang registration

in 2005, the dealer took two weeks to complete the papers ... in 2007, papers were complete on the day of sealing the deal, the car was registered the following day

good luck po sa pagbili ng sasakyan

[astroboywonder]

oo totoo yan ... car dealers don't want to have a car already sold on their lot ... it takes up space for new units! ... sagutin pa nila kung may masamang mangyari

before giving them any money, ask if they have all the papers ready for registration, let them show it to you, (take a photo with ur phone for reference and because you will never see those papers again) ... if satisfied with what you see, there's no reason to delay the registration ... the registration process only takes an hour or two if papers are complete ... and if lucky, you will be asked what ending number you prefer

the LTO website lists the papers required for registration
MOTOR VEHICLE-RELATED TRANSACTIONS

dalawang beses ko na nagawa ito ... sinamahan ko ang liason ng dealer sa LTO para masigurado matapos ang registration

in 2005, the dealer took two weeks to complete the papers ... in 2007, papers were complete on the day of sealing the deal, the car was registered the following day

good luck po sa pagbili ng sasakyan

Wow..thanks for the advice sir. Applicable din po ba ito kapag bank p.o. The moment po ba na take out na yung car dun po ba magsisimula yung amortization ko. Cenxa na po newbie lang kasi eh. Just want to have enough knowledge before i go to the dealer kasi baka kapag nakita nila na wala akong knowledge in buying a car eh mag take advantage sila [emoji29]. Just my thought lang.

[kinyo]

cash or financing doesn't matter ... basta huwag mong pirmahan delivery receipt kapag walang plaka (kasi baka dalhin lang kotse (na wala pang plaka) sa bahay mo na walang paalam ... which would mean gago talaga yung dealer)

sabihin mo sa dealer "hindi kumpleto ang sasakyan kapag walang plaka" ... walang plaka, walang delivery (because the car is missing an item!)

halimbawa ... tatanggapin mo ba yung sasakyan na walang spare tire (missing item)?

that's just an example ... (kasi there are cars really without spare tires ... those fitted with run-flat-tires as original item)

don't worry about the money you gave the dealer ... you have the receipt ... for as long as the dealer don't deliver the car, they owe you ... and if they can't deliver the car without plate, the the pressure is on them

so tell the dealer "NO PLATE, NO DELIVERY!"

[minicarph]

Mahirap din kse pag dineliver sa bahay mo tops tinaggihan mo, so babalik ang driver sa casa with the same car, then attempt na naman sila again maybe weeks or days after, sa kakapabalik-batik ng car nalaspag Dahil Lang sa no plates

This plays in the minds of first time buyers and new car buyers so mas mabuti na Lang accept-in. Alam din ng casa at agent ito. Then there's the case of the hot models like Ecosport, Mu-x,. Sa Tagal ng pila para makakuha ng cars na Ito, talagang atat ang mauuna