All New 2013 Toyota Vios (3rd Gen)

[JJ All Day]

Hindi po nakakaapekto ng hatak or fuel economy ang iba't ibang octane rating basta mas mataas sa required octane rating ng kotse. Ang epekto lamang po ng mababang octane rating ay ang pinging or engine knocking.
Kung mababa or mataas ang fuel economy dahil ito sa maraming bagay tulad ng traffic, idling, RPM, braking frequency.

I agree, but this is not comparing an apple from a banana.
When we measure and compare one FUEL ECONOMY to another, there is a presumption that everything (traffic, idling, RPM and breaking frequency) is NORMAL (if not the same).

[JJ All Day]

the car owner/motorist will just have to experiment, to find out which one will give his car better performance (kpl vs km/hr).

+1

I'm not a car expert, just an enthusiast. =)

[JJ All Day]

You really need to do your own experiment with different fuels available in your area to determine which works best with your engine.

These are machines, built on the same way and using the same parts. Wonder why one is good on this fuel and another one is better on that?
My guess: it has something to do also with the DRIVING HABBIT of a person. =)

[JJ All Day]

There are cars built on the same way, using the same parts. But why one is good on this fuel and another is better on that?
I guess, it has something to do with the DRIVING HABBIT of a person

So, is it right to state that choice of fuel (for better fuel economy) is dependent on the DRIVING HABBIT of the person, not the CAR itself?

[JJ All Day]

There are cars built on the same way, using the same parts. But why one is good on this fuel and another is better on that?
I guess, it has something to do with the DRIVING HABBIT of a person

So, for the sake of this comparison, is it right to state that choice of fuel (for better fuel economy) is dependent on the DRIVING HABBIT of a person, not the CAR itself?

[JJ All Day]

Sorry, multiple posts. Bigla kasing nag error. Kala ko di-napost.

[Stigg ma]

Hindi po nakakaapekto ng hatak or fuel economy ang iba't ibang octane rating basta mas mataas sa required octane rating ng kotse. Ang epekto lamang po ng mababang octane rating ay ang pinging or engine knocking.
Kung mababa or mataas ang fuel economy dahil ito sa maraming bagay tulad ng traffic, idling, RPM, braking frequency.

this is so true nung wala pa halo ethanol ang gasoline...

but times have change wherein meron na blend ng ethanol and kung ano ano additives ang nakahalo sa cheep low octane gasoline to boost it...

FYI: ethanol octane > gasoline octane yet ethanol power < gasoline power yet ethanol/L price > gasoline/L price

nasa tama halo na yan and additives ang performance, not all cars are the same and not all drivers are the same...

anyways labas na ito sa usapan ng VIOS... tip ko lang sa inyo, punta kayo sa planta ng toyota tapos tignan ninyo kung ano yong gas brand na initial na kinakarga nila (bigyan ko kayo clue, yng may STAR logo, tapos recommened din nila yng may KABIBE logo)

enjoy driving and keep engine clean! mahirap at magastos mag linis ng carbon deposits

[SneezyPepper]

Mga sir question lang regarding the newly issued plate number.

Dinala ko vios sa casa for repair ng trunk lid. Naibangga ko kasi sa bintana ng garahe while backing kaya nagka-dent.

After inspecting sa casa, pipinturahan daw yung buong panel or yung buong trunk lid.

The problem is the plate number, it was installed using the LTO issued bolts na mahirap tanggalin.

Worst case scenario daw, pag wala na talaga ibang paraan is tatapyasan ang plate number para matanggal.

Kanina 3 kami may case na kelangan tanggalin ang plate, puro mga newly issued plate din na ginamitan ng special bolt from LTO.

Madali lang ba mag apply ng duplicate or extra plate sa LTO?

and how much kaya?

Thank you

[JJ All Day]

The new plates, with the bolts as a security feature, are designed to discourage criminals from stealing vehicles as they will have a hard time swapping plates, and a vehicle roaming the streets with damaged plate may be swooped down upon and may be apprehended by our law enforcers.

Hence, if the plate cannot be transferred undamaged, you will need to pay LTO for REPLACEMENT (not duplicate or extra).

[dr. d]

There are cars built on the same way, using the same parts. But why one is good on this fuel and another is better on that?
I guess, it has something to do with the DRIVING HABBIT of a person

So, is it right to state that choice of fuel (for better fuel economy) is dependent on the DRIVING HABBIT of the person, not the CAR itself?

there's that.. habit.. knowing that your fuel is hi octane, may delude you into believing that your are walter mitty and thus capable of better performance...
and there's manufacturing and assembly tolerances... the cars may have been designed and built using a certain program.. but the tolerances involved still say that each car is different from the other.. sometimes, some cars simply are built closer to the ideal, hence better performance..

[abaddon013]

Question lang mga boss. Pwede ba magkabit ng no hole back sensor na hindi mawawala ung warranty? Sabe kasi sa kin mawawala daw..confirm ko lang sana

[goodtj]

the security bolts are not a security feature its a stupidity feature of the LTO/Mar Roxas it only an inconvenience and expense to majority of the good people of the Philippines and the criminals just stick the security bolts with glue to make a detachable plate for their getaway/stolen car

[JJ All Day]

there's that.. habit.. knowing that your fuel is hi octane, may delude you into believing that your are walter mitty and thus capable of better performance...
and there's manufacturing and assembly tolerances... the cars may have been designed and built using a certain program.. but the tolerances involved still say that each car is different from the other.. sometimes, some cars simply are built closer to the ideal, hence better performance..

meaning, due to manufacturing tolerances, it can be possible that you can get a 2015 Vios 1.3 M/T with better fuel economy than another 2015 Vios 1.3 M/T built on the same plant?

[JJ All Day]

the security bolts are not a security feature its a stupidity feature of the LTO/Mar Roxas it only an inconvenience and expense to majority of the good people of the Philippines and the criminals just stick the security bolts with glue to make a detachable plate for their getaway/stolen car

Do we have option not to use the security bolts once we received the new LTO plate?

[dr. d]

meaning, due to manufacturing tolerances, it can be possible that you can get a 2015 Vios 1.3 M/T with better fuel economy than another 2015 Vios 1.3 M/T built on the same plant?

yespo..
personal experience. my (non-vios) vehicle does one less km/li, than my other same vehicle. and since i do the driving, i can more-or-less rule out differences in driving habits and driving routes..
dinala ko sa kasa.. "ganun talaga ser.."..

[ReneSamuel]

Question lang mga boss. Pwede ba magkabit ng no hole back sensor na hindi mawawala ung warranty? Sabe kasi sa kin mawawala daw..confirm ko lang sana

Di ba i-ta-tap ito sa wiring ng kotse? So I guess ma-void nga warranty.

[mister.hyde]

Hi mga sirs, natanong na po siguro ito sa thread anyway ask ko na din. May keyless entry or automatic lock/unlock po ba yung 1.3J model? Am planning to get the J model para kay misis yung lang kasi kaya budget namin, wala kasi ako makita reliable info on google. Yung spec sheets usually walang detailed info. Salamat po mga sir!

[ninjababez]

Hi mga sirs, natanong na po siguro ito sa thread anyway ask ko na din. May keyless entry or automatic lock/unlock po ba yung 1.3J model? Am planning to get the J model para kay misis yung lang kasi kaya budget namin, wala kasi ako makita reliable info on google. Yung spec sheets usually walang detailed info. Salamat po mga sir!

yung vios j ng friend ko wala bro

[mister.hyde]

yung vios j ng friend ko wala bro

Thanks sa reply sir, malaki kasi price gap between J and E model almost 100k eh. Possible ba upon purchasing the unit palagyan ko na rin siya ng immobilizer or alarm and keyless entry? Salamat uli.

[goodtj]

Do we have option not to use the security bolts once we received the new LTO plate?

no you have to use it its a requirement

that's why i call it a stupidity feature required but easily bypassed and does not address the problem its supposed to address