2020 Toyota Fortuner (mid life update)(spy photos thailand)

[LOLZ]

Same sentiment here. a 2m worth unit with only 2/3 airbags? Most cars with a 3rd of its price has minimum of 6 airbags already. Though taking the airbags deletion out of the equation the Q model is the best buy of the bunch with the right amount of tech and amenities plus that more powerful 2.8 diesel engine on a 2wd unit.

I remember the current Fortuner when first released, the Fortuner G model had rear Drum brakes and sales agents were giving us some Marketing BS about it being better than disc brakes. But lo and behold after 6 months or more i think totyota updated new fortuners with disc brakes in the rear.

so i might be guessing toyota might do the same for this facelifted Fortuner and adding 4 more airbags in the near future if enough buyers clamor for it.

Seems to be that they are targeting the GLS and GT 4x2 monty with the Q and Ltd 4x2 albeit they are including AEB(safety sense) hence the price premium(+ the oval tax)

[EQAddict]

Toyota gonna rake it in again.

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[ray_noel]

Ops... Mahal talaga ng pangalan ng toyota....


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[EQAddict]

A fortuner isnt chump change.....thats serious money and takes a serious commitment with someone who has a serious income stream to be able to commit to..there are exceptions of course.

If you can buy a 2m peso car then yes...in our country....youre in the top percentile.




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[jut703]

The reality is, sa non-car person, maganda ang Fortuner, may dating, mukhang mahal.

What's wrong with that?

Nakakaapekto ba sa buhay niyo pag sosyal ang tingin ng karaniwang tao sa Fortuner?

Ordinary people don't give a crap that it's built on a truck frame, has a stiff ride, isn't as efficient space-wise as a car-based SUV, and so on.

Alam nila, maganda tindig ng Fortuner, diesel, matipid, kasya buong pamilya plus cargo, matibay ang pang-ilalim, mataas ang resale value, madali piyesa.

And yes, for many people, a 2-million peso car is a luxury so having one does bring a sense of achievement or pride.

Even my officemates, nagtataka bakit puro CRV daw binibili ng mga officemate namin, bat hindi daw Fortuner eh mas may dating daw. Of course more discerning people will pick a CUV because of the superior ride comfort and ease of driving, but non-car people don't care about that. Kaya ang benta ng PPV to CUV is 10:1.

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[Egan101]

Even my officemates, nagtataka bakit puro CRV daw binibili ng mga officemate namin, bat hindi daw Fortuner eh mas may dating daw. Of course more discerning people will pick a CUV because of the superior ride comfort and ease of driving, but non-car people don't care about that. Kaya ang benta ng PPV to CUV is 10:1.

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Parang tulad din ng Tita ng wife ko - kung bakit daw hindi na lang Fortuner binili namin instead of the Forester XT. Sinabi ko na lang na yun gusto namin. Di naman nila maintindihan yung Driving dynamics, handling, acceleration, etc.


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[dr. d]

folks who see cars as status symbols,
may differ in their choices,
compared to those who see their cars as tools.

[Egan101]

For most Pinoys, image counts a lot. The Fort plays the part. An Innova will never look as imposing as a Fortuner.


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[jut703]

For people who don't need the power, sulit na rin yung 2.4V. But the 2.4 engine is adequate lang, not impressive like the 2.4 of the Montero or 3.0 of the MUX.

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[jaggerx3]

Yung 1st gen ng Fortuner talaga ang status symbol. Ngayon parang basta maka benta na lang ang Toyota. They're a rip off for me.

May kaibigan ako na hindi talaga nabili ng ganyan truck based na SUV.
Tinatanong ko nga bakit di siya kmuha ng ganyan at bakit Santa Fe binili niya lati CRV. Ang sagot ss akin hindi naman daw siya manunundok [emoji16]

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[EQAddict]

20% dp scheme?

Hmmmm. That is still a 400k down-payment in cash and a serious monthly outlay of around 40k a month. Takes a hefty income in these parts to be able to do that.

Cathy my dear... lets put it another way. What if YOU bought a fortuner? Without the help of your mom , aunties, lola....it was all your effort and you didn't receive any money from them (unlike your other cars). How would you feel? Am sure:

1. You would be very proud of your achievement.. prouder than normal

2. Your mom, lola, aunties, titos etc would all be super proud of you. I mean they normally throw money at you. And this time you are able to buy serious metal on your own.


So yeah a fortuner is a status symbol and a source of pride for many who own it.

Lets make a bet that the totl fortuner is a more expensiive car than what most people in these forums have in their own garages. I dont see why there is that reverse "snobbery" Against fortuners or PUVs.

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[Egan101]

Lets make a bet that the totl fortuner is a more expensiive car than what most people in these forums have in their own garages. I dont see why there is that reverse "snobbery" Against fortuners or PUVs.

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Very true, bro. Not everyone can shell out that amount of money for a vehicle. Most pinoys have a hard a hard time spending more than 1M.

Seriously though, 2.4M is a bit too much for a PPV. I would say 1.7M to 2M would be something more apt. Well, Toyota can demand that price since they know it will appeal to most Pinoys. RP is Toyota-country and I don’t see that changing within the next 2 decades or so.

If I have that much money now for a vehicle, a Fortuner will not be something on my list. I would be more looking at an F150 or Explorer or CX9.


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[jut703]

If I have that much money now for a vehicle, a Fortuner will not be something on my list. I would be more looking at an F150 or Explorer or CX9.


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If you think the jump from 2M to 2.4M is big, eh that's the price difference of a Fortuner LTD to an F150 din.

Fort LTD 4x2 (2.24M) vs F150 4x2 (2.7M) - 475k
Fort LTD 4x4 (2.4M) vs F150 4x4 (3M) - 600k

Explorer ganun din (2.8M and 3.2M). CX9 yung base 2WD same price as TOTL Fort LTD 4x4, but the 4x4 CX9 is also 3M. Even with discounts with these big gas-fed SUVs mas mahal pa rin.

And same as EQs point, I always see sa forums "eh kung ganyan presyo ng xxx PPV, mag-CX9/Explorer/etc etc nalang ako". But in reality parang si Boybi and EQ lang yung nakita ko dito sa forum na may CX9 or better.

Bottomline, that 1.6M-2.4M price point of PPVs (all brands fall into that range) is what most upper middle class Pinoys can afford (no matter what they say on social media or forums). A jump of a few hundred grand more is a big step-up that most aren't willing or unable to pay for.

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[Egan101]

If you think the jump from 2M to 2.4M is big, eh that's the price difference of a Fortuner LTD to an F150 din.

Fort LTD 4x2 (2.24M) vs F150 4x2 (2.7M) - 475k
Fort LTD 4x4 (2.4M) vs F150 4x4 (3M) - 600k

Explorer ganun din (2.8M and 3.2M). CX9 yung base 2WD same price as TOTL Fort LTD 4x4, but the 4x4 CX9 is also 3M. Even with discounts with these big gas-fed SUVs mas mahal pa rin.

And same as EQs point, I always see sa forums "eh kung ganyan presyo ng xxx PPV, mag-CX9/Explorer/etc etc nalang ako". But in reality parang si Boybi and EQ lang yung nakita ko dito sa forum na may CX9 or better.

Bottomline, that 1.6M-2.4M price point of PPVs (all brands fall into that range) is what most upper middle class Pinoys can afford (no matter what they say on social media or forums). A jump of a few hundred grand more is a big step-up that most aren't willing or unable to pay for.

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Just sharing my preference. If I was with most people, I would have most likely bought a Fortuner also. Sa mga tita pa lang ng wife ko, tatlo ata naka Fort.

The midsize gas-fed SUVs are all about refinement and comfort. For the same price, I don’t want a truck. If I wanted a truck, I might as well just buy a pickup.

Many will ask me what they can buy for their ride. I will tell them that my preference may not be like theirs but I will share an honest suggestion. PPVs are surely a good hit for Pinoys as they are what appeals to most - seat for 7, diesel-fed, sturdy, and reliable. The Fortuner reigns supreme as it has all those qualities on top of a Toyota brand name.


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[jut703]

Just sharing my preference. If I was with most people, I would have most likely bought a Fortuner also. Sa mga tita pa lang ng wife ko, tatlo ata naka Fort.

The midsize gas-fed SUVs are all about refinement and comfort. For the same price, I don’t want a truck. If I wanted a truck, I might as well just buy a pickup.

Many will ask me what they can buy for their ride. I will tell them that my preference may not be like theirs but I will share an honest suggestion. PPVs are surely a good hit for Pinoys as they are what appeals to most - seat for 7, diesel-fed, sturdy, and reliable. The Fortuner reigns supreme as it has all those qualities on top of a Toyota brand name.


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Ang alternative option sa PPV price-wise are compact CUVs. TOTL CRV is 2.14M, TOTL CX5 is 2.35M - same land as the TOTL PPVs. If there was a new gen FXT for sure nasa 2M+ din yun given that the last gen was at 2M before the inventory clearance sale. Mid-range compact CUVs same price din as mid-range PPVs.

So the mid-size CUVs are a great option for sure but are also a class above (price-wise) to your typical PPV.

I agree that everyone has different preferences (I'm also in the camp of comfortable ride over ride height/durability, hence the CRV and not PPV). What I'm commenting on is the common statement online na "kaysa PPV why not xxx mid-size SUV" when in fact the mid-size CUV is several hundred grand more expensive and not in the same price range anymore.

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[EQAddict]

I can see the F150 will always be the top of your list hehehe (as it is in mine)

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[Egan101]

I can see the F150 will always be the top of your list hehehe (as it is in mine)

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The F150 is still the badass truck! However, I don’t see that happening if my wife does not approve.

BTT: I think the Fortuner Q models might be the one to reign supreme in sales.


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[Wh1stl3r]

Finally Toyota realized using the 2.8 engine only in the TOTL 4x4 models was a waste. Now more people can enjoy ample power without having to buy unnecessary 4x4 hardware.

[Egan101]

Yung Expedition is truck-based also. It uses the same platform as the F150. However, these American trucks are on a different league from the usual crop of pickups we are used to. You can practically buy two medium-sized pickup trucks for the price of one F150.


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[EQAddict]

Basta ako simple lang.

Just wanted to answer the question about the fortuner as a status symbol.

It is for 98% of the population (we are talking about 107m out of the 110m population of the philippines). If you can afford a 2m+ anything, then yeah its a symbol of your capability and status in this society.

Am not talking about its qualities (of which it has many which i admire as well).



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