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    #21
    this is really good news!

    i just hope that he is made of steel. -or something like it.

    we should be supporting him on this fight (it's going to be).

    we are so way behind other asian tigers already.

    i also wish that he could do something about our dumb traffic lights, they are so embarrassing, we are like driving in 19th century roads. lowtech!

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    #22
    I'm all for having a less congested road pero let's be realistic if were gonna slash down the PUV bus force to just 500-1000. Let's think realistically here:

    We all know that PUVs are the cause of traffic. Not only buses but taxis, jeepneys and fx as well. Majority of use or sometimes use the bus to get from point A to point B diba? What I observed here is that eventhough we get mad at the public buses for causing the traffic eh we fail to see that every day, every morning, parating puno ang laman ng bus. Puno sila ng pasahero! It doesn't matter kung saan ang biyahe nila. People from all walks of life keep on using the bus as a primary mode of transportation. Why not the MRT? Simply, because you spent more of your travel time just staying in line and you get dropped off at the station unlike the bus which mostly gets you within just the next block to your location, sometimes sa harapan pa ng destination point mo.

    Now, what are the pro's:
    1) luluwag yung kalsada
    2) less pollution
    3) less accidents

    Cons:
    1) it will cripple the economy
    2) half a million commuters will get stranded because of the sudden drop of the bus workforce. Not unless you're willing to use your private vehicle as a carpool to total strangers. Then that's colorum.(tama ba spelling?) We did that back in the US some years ago. Don't even think that the MRT is the solution.... it can barely cope with it's passengers now, papaano pa kaya kung halos wala nang mga public buses pa?
    3) not everyone has their private transpo. Malamang ang mga nasa tight budget will most likely purchase a motorcycle which we all know cause more accidents in a day kaysa sa mga bus.

    I think the solution isn't slashing out buses.... but to implement and execute a better standard in puv rules and safety. Yan ang problema kasi sa pinoy, magaling lang sa umpisa pero pag lumipas lang ng ilang araw or linggo balik uli sa dati. Gaya ng puv yellow lane na yan wala namang sumusunod diyan. Pati rin yung mga puv pick up and drop off point, wala rin. Kahit gaano karaming mga projects pa ang ma-implement pa ng govt..... it all boils down to awareness, discipline and follow through for both the govt and the puv drivers and operators.

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    #23
    ano ng balita sa project niya? mukhang tumahimik na ah...hehehe

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    #24
    Dapat gawin nila maglagay sila ng SWAT sa EDSA, Roxas Blvd and Commonwealth. Barilin lahat ng bus drivers na akala mo kung sinong mayaman mag-drive pag nakabangga parang aso magmakaawa.


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    #25
    O di kaya maglagay ng compactor sa bawat bus stop para kung nakitang barubal magmaneho deretso na yung bus na minamaneho ni mamang kaskasero dun sa pitpitan - tapos bahala na sya magpaliwanag kay kompanya nya:nolurk:

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    #26
    Tingnan natin, baka sa umpisa lang yan.......

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    #27
    :rave::party:luluwag na ang edsa! wuhoooo!

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    #28
    you're all underestimating the power of the bus operators led by Dela Fuente...hehehe

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    #29
    ok lang na bawasan,pag nakita mo naman kasi kung gaano kadaming bus ang mga walang sakay sayang lang di ba...bigyan na lang ng number mga yan,every other day lang pagtakbuhin. mga iba ilipat sa prubinsya. ganun na lang. sino ba naman kasi ang nagbigay ng sobra sobrang franchise

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    I don't think the ordinary public commuters will suffer and might very well be even be benefited by the reduced number of PUVs in EDSA. The remaining buses will be operating more efficiently and turnaround time will be much shorter. Passengers as well as private car owners will get to their destination faster.

    As to the the displaced drivers, conductors of these PUVs, hindi naman siguro puro bobo yan na wala ng ibang alam na trabaho. The good ones will surely find other employments or start small businesses. The bad ones will at least have to stop their vicious vices like drugs and too much alcohol which probably explains their rude and reckless driving.

    LTFRB plans the same thing to the jeepneys, which is some routes are worse than EDSA. They clog the streets and their terminals are soon converted into one huge toilet and attracts not only flies and pathogens but also human lowlifes or criminal elements. Jeepney is a sort of microcosm of the Filipino culture and represents the worst among us. Though it is as symbol of our past creative ingenuity it also shows how left behind we already are. Unfortunately, many among us still cling to these traditions and mindset. Erap knows this very well because the guy has the mind of a typical jeepney driver as well as many among pinoys and he is loved and voted by these types.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by 4wrider View Post
    I don't think the ordinary public commuters will suffer and might very well be even be benefited by the reduced number of PUVs in EDSA. The remaining buses will be operating more efficiently and turnaround time will be much shorter. Passengers as well as private car owners will get to their destination faster.

    As to the the displaced drivers, conductors of these PUVs, hindi naman siguro puro bobo yan na wala ng ibang alam na trabaho. The good ones will surely find other employments or start small businesses. The bad ones will at least have to stop their vicious vices like drugs and too much alcohol which probably explains their rude and reckless driving.

    LTFRB plans the same thing to the jeepneys, which is some routes are worse than EDSA. They clog the streets and their terminals are soon converted into one huge toilet and attracts not only flies and pathogens but also human lowlifes or criminal elements. Jeepney is a sort of microcosm of the Filipino culture and represents the worst among us. Though it is as symbol of our past creative ingenuity it also shows how left behind we already are. Unfortunately, many among us still cling to these traditions and mindset. Erap knows this very well because the guy has the mind of a typical jeepney driver as well as many among pinoys and he is loved and voted by these types.

    I highly doubt that. Experience has taught us that. Kung transport strike nga lang eh crippled and stranded na yung mga commuters natin, me included. Take note, even during the transport strike eh less than 30% ang mga actual PUV strikers pero ang lakas ng impact nila sa daily lives natin. Oo nga, wala ngang traffic PERO wala rin masakyan. How many transport strikes do we experience within a year? Around half a dozen maybe?!?

    A faster turn-around time??? Same thing, charge it to experience. Nung time ng mga transport strikes mabilis nga ang biyahe pero di kaya ng PUV crew ang turnaround, di pa included yung mga shifts nila, morning, mid, night and earl am. Toxic yung mga puv drivers natin, stressed, tired and hence, more accident prone.

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    #32
    I'd rather the riding public endure a transport strike than risk their lives daily with mostly illiterate, reckless and unsafe bus drivers. Transport strike ba? The government through the LTFRB and the DOTC is empowered to take over a public utility and take possession of their buses when the situation calls for it and yes, the operators can probably sue but they won't be able to do a damned thing about it.

    Wala lang talagang political will ang mga tauhan sa gobyerno na magkamay-bakal sa mga PUB/PUJ.

    I'm sorry, but I feel absolutely no compassion towards people who's only justification for breaking traffic rules or any law for that matter is that "naghahanap-buhay lang po". That's an old and tired line. Find something more original please.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberRider View Post
    I highly doubt that. Experience has taught us that. Kung transport strike nga lang eh crippled and stranded na yung mga commuters natin, me included. Take note, even during the transport strike eh less than 30% ang mga actual PUV strikers pero ang lakas ng impact nila sa daily lives natin. Oo nga, wala ngang traffic PERO wala rin masakyan. How many transport strikes do we experience within a year? Around half a dozen maybe?!?

    A faster turn-around time??? Same thing, charge it to experience. Nung time ng mga transport strikes mabilis nga ang biyahe pero di kaya ng PUV crew ang turnaround, di pa included yung mga shifts nila, morning, mid, night and earl am. Toxic yung mga puv drivers natin, stressed, tired and hence, more accident prone.
    Transport strike and orderly reduction are not comparable at all. Your experience is definitely what the strikers wanted to happen, the most inconvenience to the public as possible. With a systematic long term delisting of jeepneys and buses based on a route to route study with the riding public welfare as priority, you might not even feel the difference on a daily basis. At most siguro baka ang mawawalang jeep or bus, eh, mga 1 - 2 percent lang every month.

    I understand that a lot of us want an instant solution to problems that resulted from decades of negligence and government incompetence. But what Mr. Suansing is proposing or hopefully actually doing is for gradual reduction of PUV starting with the old, ill maintained, inefficient and polluting units first. I think, he is one of the smarter ones in government who would not go for instant solution for short term results just to get political pogi points, I really hope not.

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    #34
    why don't they just bring back double-decker buses just like in hong kong? of course, as long as infrastructure can support them, you'd be virtually doubling seating.

    also, i really think we need to build more LRTs...

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    #35
    Mass transport solution all through out metropolis could answer horrible traffic problems. I admire german train stations work effectively transporting people from one station to the other ON TIME.

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by rael View Post
    why don't they just bring back double-decker buses just like in hong kong? of course, as long as infrastructure can support them, you'd be virtually doubling seating.

    also, i really think we need to build more LRTs...
    Double deckers used to run through EDSA during Cory's time but are now unsuitable for Philippine roads. With all those low placed aerial utility conduits criscrossing our roads, its impossible for those buses yo get anywhere. MRTs is really the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmd3_787 View Post
    When Mr. Suansing was still the LTO chief, he established his reputation by personally involving his self in enforcing LTO laws on the streets. Apprehending an off-duty policeman who used "wang wang" while driving his Revo, penalizing a taxi driver for not using the meter (kontrata), and many more...

    Now that he is the LTFRB chief, Mr. Suansing is intensifying his drive to limit the number of buses along EDSA (5000 units to 1000 units), especially the colorum units. Sobrang sikip na kasi ang EDSA at hindi maikakaila na mga buses ang dahilan. Kulang na lang at gawin nilang paradahan ang EDSA. Not to mention their barbaric way of driving and close-to-unsanitary conditions of their buses. Ngayon nga lang ay 80% na ng buses sa EDSA ang nawala sa takot nilang mahuli. Ganuon karami ang colorum buses!

    It's not surprising to hear some oppositions regarding this move, especially from Claire dela Fuente. Mawawalan daw ng trabaho ang 8000 employees nila. E paano naman yung daan-libong napeperwisyo sa trapik (at aksidente) na gawa nila?! I can still recall Ms. dela Fuente's statement years ago: " Public Utlility vehicles only comprises 5% of the total vehicles in the Metro. How can they cause traffic? Blame the private vehicles for it!" Is she stupid or something?

    Ang batas ay batas! Ms. dela Fuente should shut up. Moreover, this IMBOA president has only 10 buses with no garage... contrary to her permit to operate dozens.

    Sana isali ni Mr. Suansing ang mga PUJ at trikes. Dito sa QC ay marami ang may lowered sidecars (matagtag & hataw magpatakbo) at grabe maningil ... 15 pesos! Although trikes are not covered by LTFRB (sa pagkaalam ko) kasi local government ang may jurisdiction sa kanila, sana makalabit ng kaunti ang mga mayors natin.

    Ang hiling ko lang ay sana hindi matanggal dyan si Mr. Suansing. Sigurado kasing may mga nasasagasaan siyang mga personalidad na may mga kapit sa "itaas".

    Mr. Suansing, kakampi nyo po ang maraming mamamayan na may gusto sa pagbabagong ginagawa nyo. We strongly support your actions!

    I agree with this. Claire de Fuente was actually caught involve in sabit franchise after a few days justifying her illogical reasoning in umagagng kay ganda show at abs cbn haha

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Double deckers used to run through EDSA during Cory's time but are now unsuitable for Philippine roads. With all those low placed aerial utility conduits criscrossing our roads, its impossible for those buses yo get anywhere. MRTs is really the way to go.
    Double decker busses can and should be used in our country. Just with little limitation, like they could be used in EDSA, Highways, and other large roads or places without those low bridges. While the single decker busses for those places where the double deckers can't go to..

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    #39
    tataob lang yun mga 2x deckers na yan with how those a$sholes drive...

    nun bata pa ako may ganun sa may mercury sa escolta. love bus ata yun. it was always fun riding those...

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Double deckers used to run through EDSA during Cory's time but are now unsuitable for Philippine roads. With all those low placed aerial utility conduits criscrossing our roads, its impossible for those buses yo get anywhere. MRTs is really the way to go.
    Double decker busses can and should be used in our country. Just with little limitation, like they could be used in EDSA, Highways, and other large roads or places without those low bridges. While the single decker busses for those places where the double deckers can't go to..

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