Air Force to buy fighter jets by 2011

[Monseratto]

too good to be true.

THe guy who posted the photochopped in the military website got burned...

[ghost recon]

THe guy who posted the photochopped in the military website got burned...

i know. i've been following defense forums also and i have seen that f-18 with paf logo.

[Monseratto]

Out of the 25 S-211 purchased during the Ramos years, only three are air-worthy. A very sad fact...

2 pilots eject before PAF plane crashes

CAMP OLIVAS, Pampanga – Two Philippine Air Force (PAF) pilots cheated death on Monday when they ejected just in time before their S-211 trainer aircraft crashed in a sugarcane field in Concepcion, Tarlac.

Lieutenant Colonel Miguel Okol, PAF spokesman, identified the two as Lt. Jose Wilbert Leonides P. Martinez, pilot; and Major Wilfred Babbit A. Donato, pilot-instructor.

They both belong to the Air Defense Wing’s 7th Tactical Fighter Squadron based in Clark Air Force Base.

Okol said Martinez and Donato were on a training missing when the incident occurred around 11 a.m. in the vicinity of Sitio Ligaya, Barangay Santiago in Concepcion.

“Two pilots of an S-211 of the Air Division Wing (ADW) on a training mission ejected safely over Tarlac this morning and were promptly rescued and airlifted back to Clark Air Base at around 11:45 a.m.,” Okol said in his text message to the Manila Bulletin.

Chief Superintendent Arturo G. Cacdac Jr., Police Regional Office 3 (PRO3) director, said emergency teams based in Clark aided the two pilots.

Cacdac said the plane, with Tail No. 211.09005, was on its way to Clark after a training session in Laoag, Ilocos Norte, when it crashed.

Okol said probers from the PAF’s Aircraft Crash Investigation Team had been dispatched to the crash site to determine the cause of the incident.

Meanwhile, PAF chief Lt. Gen. Oscar Rabena immediately ordered the grounding of all their S-211 aircrafts pending the outcome of the investigation.

With the recent crash, the PAF is now left with only six S-211s including three that are undergoing maintenance.

The Aermacchi S-211 is a small tandem two-seat aircraft that is powered by a Pratt and Whitney JT15D-C turbofan. The aircraft was designed as a secondary close air support capability that can be armed for weapons training or light ground attack duties.

A total of 25 S-211’s were purchased by the PAF in the late 1980s, including 15 that were assembled locally by the Philippine Aerospace Development Corporation.

Due to accidents, six planes remain in service although only three are air worthy.

In February, two PAF pilots died when an OV Bronco attack aircraft of the air force also crashed at Crow Valley, Capas, Tarlac while conducting aerial gunnery training

[shakatak70]

'hope the gov't will pursue the modernization of our military.

[krazeyrock]

Out of the 25 S-211 purchased during the Ramos years, only three are air-worthy. A very sad fact...

Atleast their emergency seats are still working and save the lives of our pilots.

Unlike those unfortunate ones in the c130 crash and etc.

By the way, if we want our airforce to be modernized ASAP, we should banned our congressman and senators and all public officials from flying commercial flights. Instead, they should all be boarding the c130 and other air assets of the airforce, with the generals flying them ofcourse. :D

[coiter]

funny because during the last hot air balloon festival yung bantay ng s211 na nakadisplay dun ay di pumayag na magpasakay ng mga visitors unlike last year. ang reason niya 'sir bagong upgrade kasi yung mga ejector seats'. well, at least now they know their upgrade is worth it.

[kurt]

acording to wikipedia, ang vietnam airforce ay meron Su-30. Modern, multi-role, all-weather, air to air and air to surface capabilities. More or less equivalent sa latest variants ng F-15.

Tapos ambition ng PAF ay second hand jets lang. baka mas modern narin airforce ng cambodia and myanmar.

ok. payag ako wala na tayo fighter jets, ilagay na lahat ang budget sa mga cargo planes and helicopters (c-130, blackhawks)

[safeorigin]

ang indonesia e magkakaroon na ng indigenous na stealth fighter ^^

[Monseratto]

Buti naman. But no one would likely want to bid again. Always changing the rules even when the deal has been signed.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...elicopter-deal

PH drops $ 73M helicopter deal
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 18:27:00 12/07/2010

Filed Under: Government, Graft & Corruption, Military, Philippines - Metro


MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine government said Tuesday it had cancelled a 73 million dollar deal to buy military helicopters following allegations of collusion with a Polish defense contractor.

A formal inquiry found no hard proof of collusion between PZL Swidnik and the defense ministry panel that recommended the award of the contract, but concluded the deal was overpriced, ministry spokesman Eduardo Batac said.

"Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin has approved the recommendation of the board of inquiry to declare a failure of bidding for the attack helicopter acquisition project of the Philippine Air Force," Batac said in a statement.

The deal, approved by the bid committee in September this year, would have seen the Philippines buy seven attack helicopters, including one with night-vision capability, for 3.2 billion pesos (73 million dollars).

Gazmin also froze the planned acquisition of three billion pesos' worth of combat utility helicopters for the Philippine Navy, for which no contract awards had been made, Batac said.

"We are going to encounter some delays," he said of the Philippine government's efforts to modernise its military equipment, adding that no decision had been taken on how best to proceed.

The Philippines needs the aircraft to fight communist as well as Muslim separatist insurgencies.

Tenders for the air force and navy helicopters were first sought in 2007 under President Benigno Aquino III's predecessor Gloria Arroyo, Batac said.

After a series of failed tenders in 2008 and 2009, when no bids were submitted, the ministry revised the number of units it wanted to buy down from eight to seven, as well as changing payload and engine specifications.

However, only one company made a bid even with the revised requirements, Batac said.

Aquino blocked the entire project and ordered an inquiry in October this year amid allegations the bid committee rigged the rules to favor PZL Swidnik, the only firm that eventually submitted a bid for the attack helicopters.

"In the course of their investigation, the (inquiry board) did not find 'prima facie' evidence of collusion," Batac said.

"However, the (board) found the (bid committee's) decision to reduce the quantity of attack helicopters that can be acquired from eight to seven... to be unquestionably disadvantageous to the government," he said.

It would have shortchanged the government of 400 million pesos, he added.

[clarence27]

dapat 100 fighter jets ang mabili hanggang 2014,kailangan natin yan to fight external threat,kasi kung 2squadron lng parang langaw lng yan natitirisin ng ibang bansa lalo na ng china.pero alam ko imposible maafford ng pilipinas un.bakit hindi mag ambag lahat ng pilipino ng pera na kahit 5pesos bawat buwan.kasi para din naman sa security natin yan.kikilos lang ba tayo kapag nandyan na ang giyera?

[Isuzoom]

bibili da ang philippine airforce ng invisible jets....

[safeorigin]

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wXNVy5dFg[/ame]

pwede rin ito...

attack helo and transport at the same time

upgraded pa ng mga south africans

although mas maganda yung cockpit ng Mi-35

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHdZvQjG-jw[/ame]

inubos yung LTTE Tamil Tigers

$12.5-25m each yung bagong bago na Mi-35

[Monseratto]

Hintayin na lang natin yung stealth fighter ng China...



http://www.dailymailtimes.com/?p=693

Hints of a Chinese Stealth plane J-20 surprise US analysts
Posted on 27 December 2010.

The U.S. flew its first stealth prototypes — the YF-22 and rival YF-23 — in 1990. Have the Chinese caught up? There are blurry pictures of the Chinese J-20 jet-fighter floating around. Some think the pictures are fake, others think that the pictures are real and have been pulled. Some analysts think that the pictures could be the products of a Chinese government misinformation campaign.

Chinese Internet forums are circulating the pictures. The airplane depicted in the snapshots has many of the appropriate characteristics for a fifth-generation stealth-fighter prototype. It has a chiseled front-section, triangular wings, and a moving tailplanes. The Chinese J-20 seems to combine the front fuselage of the U.S. Air Force’s F-22 with the back half of Russia’s T-50 stealth prototype.

The J-20’s appearance have shaken the aviation industry that didnt expect a Chinese Stealth fighter for a decade. The J-20 seems to signal a big step forward for the Chinese air force. The PLA-Airforce seems to have come of age. It is no longer dependent on obsolete Russian or Israeli designs.

Is this the end of the US dominance of the air? Jittery analysts are still confused about the F-22 and the F-35.

The analysts sounded alarm bells when the Russia’s new T-50 fighter first flew.

The Pentagon has delayed F-35 production and China has apparently accelerated its own stealth development.

; the J-20 hasn’t even flown yet. It took 15 years for the F-22 to enter front-line service; considering China’s quality-control problems with high technology, it could take a decade or more for the J-20 to appear in numbers that make any difference in the Pacific balance of power. Gates might have been slightly off in his assessment of the Chinese air force, but probably not by much.

[safeorigin]

hmmm... me thinks it's fake...

just by looking at the tail insignia... it isn't PLA

prototypes and taxi run airframes aren't painted but just left with bare composite skin

even the people in secret projects forum are skeptical

[Benji_DCP]

bibili da ang philippine airforce ng invisible jets....

Imaginary Jets na lang para sa puff. Hinde na kailangan pang bumili.

[Monseratto]

hmmm... me thinks it's fake...

just by looking at the tail insignia... it isn't PLA

prototypes and taxi run airframes aren't painted but just left with bare composite skin

even the people in secret projects forum are skeptical

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People'...Army_Air_Force

Markings
The markings of the PLAAF are a red star in front of a red band, it is very similar to the insignia of the Russian Air Force. The Red star contains the Chinese characters for eight and one,[4][5] representing August 1, 1927, the date of the formation of the PLA. PLAAF aircraft carry these markings on the fins as well.

[Monseratto]

But not to worry. It may take decades for them to get it ready.

Quality Control Crisis in Chinese Jet Fighter Production?





Yesterday, we wrote up RAND’s latest assessment of the PLA air forces that focused on modernization progress over the past decade and China’s development of a fighter production base built largely by reverse engineering Russian and some Israeli designs.

Meanwhile, David Axe reports that there have been some pretty serious problems with new jets coming off Chinese production lines. The PLA recently rejected delivery of 16 J-11B (a licensed version of the Su-27 Flanker) because of abnormal vibrations.

Chinese production of the single engine J-10B (reverse engineered from Israel’s Lavi) has also veered off course.

“On April 22, a J-10 crashed, killing a senior pilot. It was the second known crash in two years of the new fighter, and came just nine days after the Chinese military hosted delegations of African and Middle Eastern arms buyers, in hope of selling them the J-10 and other weapons.

Beijing has tried to cover up the J-10 crashes, according to Manu Sood. “The 22 April crash became public because a senior colonel had died in the crash and the funeral became too big to keep the story hushed. The news report also claims that the design of the 200-odd J-10s produced have not worked out as desired by [the] developers.”

http://defensetech.org/2010/05/21/qu...#ixzz19OLbq8sS

[safeorigin]

insignia has a band behind the star


but anyway... a pic of the "secret airfield"

[Monseratto]

Clearer pics of the supposed photoshopped Chinese fighter w/ fake PLAAF insignia...

[Monseratto]

yeah it would be believable if it actually flew...