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    #381
    Quote Originally Posted by usong725 View Post
    ^ so kaya mag intercept ng jets ang P3 kung yan ang issue mo?

    ah. pinoy pride :D
    Kulang lang ang AFP ng gamit due to CORRUPTION but they are capable of operating even sophisticated equipments

    I hope your brain can absorb that
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    Last edited by kisshmet; December 4th, 2017 at 04:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Never under estimate the power of a .50 caliber..it was built to bring down small planes like a tucano. Surveillance mission require a plane to loiter to gather information

    Can you imagine a tucano with external fuel tank and surveillance gears on its wingpods will be sluggish. Fuel tanks are sweet target for a .50 caliber machine gun because its content is volatile

    A medium sized aircraft dedicated for surveillance purposes can fly higher and longer than a tucano. It will be safer to operate for battlespace surveillance purposes

    Meanwhile you can maximize the effectiveness of the tucano in an attack mode. The more the better. Pulling a few tucano for surveillance duty while keeping the rest in attack mode will lessen its effectivity where it could deliver more waves of attack if we dedicate the whole fleet of tucano for attack purposes

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    Nagbigay na ako ng scenario on how this plane can be used in CAS and recon mode mode para sa iyo. The Tucano has 6 hardpoints, you only need to use 1 (ok 2 para balanced) for recon gear, freeing up the other 4-5 for bombs/rockets, plus it still has 2 0.50in gunpods. Even if it has expended all ammo, an unarmed plane loitering over a battlefield is still deadly as it can be an artillery spotter.

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    #383
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Nagbigay na ako ng scenario on how this plane can be used in CAS and recon mode mode para sa iyo. The Tucano has 6 hardpoints, you only need to use 1 (ok 2 para balanced) for recon gear, freeing up the other 4-5 for bombs/rockets, plus it still has 2 0.50in gunpods. Even if it has expended all ammo, an unarmed plane loitering over a battlefield is still deadly as it can be an artillery spotter.
    I also gave u a scenario how to maximize the attack potential of a tucano

    6 tucanos utilized as attack planes supported by a medium sized recon plane which can fly much higher and could stay airborne much longer than a tucano that were flown for recon mode

    Against a 2-4 split for a recon-attack mode. While you alternate 2 tucanos every 2 hours for recon, you are left with 4 attack tucanos to rotate your bombing runs

    Another scenario 6 tucanos with mixed load of surveillance suites and ordnance for attack mode and external fuel tanks for extended flight makes the operation of the tucano very complicated. Surveillance flight are simple flypast run..attack run are swooping maneuver. The more load an aircraft have the more sluggish it becomes

    Which scenario would win the battle much quicker?

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    Last edited by kisshmet; December 4th, 2017 at 06:05 PM.

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    #384
    This thread got active all because of a silly misunderstanding of the Embraer announcement of "interdiction capabilities" of the Tucano.

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    #385
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Kulang lang ang AFP ng gamit due to CORRUPTION but they are capable of operating even sophisticated equipments

    I hope your brain can absorb that
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    If you insist then P3 for CAS. haha. I rest my case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    This thread got active all because of a silly misunderstanding of the Embraer announcement of "interdiction capabilities" of the Tucano.
    Pabayaan mo na sir. P3 daw for CAS. Mas magaling pa sa mga planners ng AFP

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    #386
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    This thread got active all because of a silly misunderstanding of the Embraer announcement of "interdiction capabilities" of the Tucano.
    Marawi conflict was resolved much sooner because the US lent us P3orion which is a dedicated surveillance aircraft.

    That paved the way for the phil airforce to dedicate all its air assets (even the trainer aircrafts) to attack the mautes on the ground using the info provided by the P3orion

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    Last edited by kisshmet; December 4th, 2017 at 08:00 PM.

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    #387
    o sige na nga, sabihin ko kay digong bukas bumili ng p3. para matahimik ka na.

    pinagpilitan talaga e ano? parang natalo yata ito sa bidding.

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    #388
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    o sige na nga, sabihin ko kay digong bukas bumili ng p3. para matahimik ka na.

    pinagpilitan talaga e ano? parang natalo yata ito sa bidding.
    ha ha ha [emoji574] [emoji574]

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    #389
    nahilo ako kay kisshmet sa super tucano na yan

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    #390
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Marawi conflict was resolved much sooner because the US lent us P3orion which is a dedicated surveillance aircraft.

    That paved the way for the phil airforce to dedicate all its air assets (even the trainer aircrafts) to attack the mautes on the ground using the info provided by the P3orion

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    puede bang guryon na lang, instead of p3 orion?
    heh heh heh.

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    #391
    ASW choppers





    THE WILDCATS ARE COMING FOR OUR NAVAL AVIATORS

    In the Antisubmarine Warfare (ASW) role, the AW159 can be configured to carry Active Dripping Sonar (ADS), sonobuoys, and torpedoes, while for the anti-surface warfare role it can be armed with anti-ship missiles, rockets, and guns. Something our Navy would really love and the enemy sub or ship would really hate.

    The Philippine Navy will receive two brand-new AgustaWestland AW-159 “Wildcat” anti-submarine helicopters, under the specifications of the contract AgustaWestland should deliver the aircraft within 730 days or two years and seventeen days from the time of the awarding. The first ASW helicopter will be delivered in 2018 while the second AW159 helicopter will be delivered in early 2019.

    The PHP 5.4 billion (US $114 million) acquisition project of two anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters, is sourced from the Armed Forces of the Philippines Modernization Trust Act Fund. A team of Naval Aviators and aircraft mechanics/specialist were sent to the UK for training starting the early months of 2017.

    Once in Philippine Navy service, the AW-159s will be under the Wings of our Naval Air Group and are expected to be deployed on the two frigates on order from Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI).

    They are now in the final stages of being built, And should start flight test not before too long in Leonardo's Helicopter Division, with its UK home in Yeovil,

    These two AW-159 will be the most sophisticated and most expensive rotary aircraft in the AFPs inventory. They're far more expensive than our FA-50s.

    Posted by Pinoy Aviators

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    #392
    yes.
    i think choppers and other slower-than-jets aircraft, are better suited for our needs.

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