Suzuki APV [Merged Threads]

[olidotcom]

*olidotcom he he pano ko kaya makuhang freebie yan???

nababasa ko dito sa forums...

- sa labas 30k lang yung HU LCD TV, complete na with headrest monitors, back-up camera and installation, warranty lang problema tsk tsk

- sa casa ng nissan para sa GL 60k daw

tapos yung natanungan ko sa mitsu, 50k yung HU tapos 12k each pa yung headrest monitors tsk tsk ang mamahal at tama ka nakaka black out nga hehe ...

hopefully sana magkaroon suzuki ng offer uli na included sa 810K price, actually over na nga sa budget namin ng wife ko yung 810k pero sasagutin ko na yung 10K hehe, at pagnagkataon ang laki ng chance na APV na makuha namin ng wife ko...

and bro thanks again sa additional information!

sorry sir, not that much help.. heheh.. but as far as i have experienced, from the van itself.. im very much satisfied.. dumadami na ang naka APV ngayon sa kalsada... before i got mine, wala pa masyado.. ngayon every day i see a minimum of 3 to 5...

good space until the third row, cold aircon, hindi mainit ang upuan...(dahil yung engine nya nasa ilalim) i think because hindi lang maganda ang insulation, kasi ang radiator din eh hiwalay... nasa harapan.

[jom's]

thank you din sir olidotcom sa mga inputs at nag research palang po ....

maganda yung nababasa ko tungkol sa APV sa van mismo, pero mixed po yung nababasa ko sa service ng suzuk, kayo po maganda po ba experience nyo sa serbisyo ng suzuki?...

[olidotcom]

to be honest, di pa ko nakapag-pa service sa suzuki... my APV came from Suzuki Pasay-Macapagal, and its imperative sakin na hindi siya ma-wala for more than 2 days.. its my daily drive kasi.

Im assuming that they need more than 1 day to service my van so I'd rather have it serviced sa ibang lugar para 1 day or half-a-day lang siya na hindi magagamit.

My brother had the APV's first 5k change oil sa casa.. which is always free for all vehicles.. the second change oil, I had it last month kay speedyfix, for less than 2 hours. (change oil, spark plugs 3k all in all)

My next service, im expecting it to be costly. change oil, air filter, transmission oil, differential oil, tire rotate, tune up.

By that time, Im sure that madami na din akong makikilalang magaling mag service ng APV rather than sa CASA..

But from the feedbacks that I have heard, most suzuki service centers has good reputations, except for others that are not really 'suzuki owned' like the one in shaw blvd (nabasa ko lang) in macapagal, its under 'wheelers' or 'wheels' something...

IMHO, dederecho na lang ako suzuki talaga.. if any problem arises with my van and needs expert attention.

[jom's]

Sir olidotcom thank you po sa details, iwasan ang shaw, buti na lang malayo kami dyan hehe ...

yung pong free PMS up to 20K ng suzuki, hindi po kasama ang APV?

[olidotcom]

Sir olidotcom thank you po sa details, iwasan ang shaw, buti na lang malayo kami dyan hehe ...

yung pong free PMS up to 20K ng suzuki, hindi po kasama ang APV?

mine was until for the first 5k lang. (hindi na nakipag haggle brother ko nung kinuha namin yung apv last july 2009.) and medjo mas gusto kasi namin magpagawa sa mas trusted naming mekaniko kaya hindi na kami nakipag pilitan pa sa part na yun.

[jom's]

thank you uli bro olidotcom, haggle lang yata talaga kaialangan gawin para makuha yung gusto, sana mahaggle yung LCD he he ...

sorry dami kong tanong, after first PMS sa casa puwede na syang PMS kahit saan? hindi ma void yung warranty?

[olidotcom]

thank you uli bro olidotcom, haggle lang yata talaga kaialangan gawin para makuha yung gusto, sana mahaggle yung LCD he he ...

sorry dami kong tanong, after first PMS sa casa puwede na syang PMS kahit saan? hindi ma void yung warranty?

ask away lang sir.. ill answer the best as i can.. madaming expert dito.. madalang lang sila mag online.

mostly talaga.. haggle lang ng haggle.. yung sakin kasi, kapatid ko ang pumili, hindi rin kasi siya masyadong mahilig sa all-power features kaya bear model lang ang kinuha.

we got ours less than 600k pero naka mortgage siya sa bpi.

that's why im starting to pick out other optional parts para sa van ko.

[meredith]

Hello mga peeps...pa-join sa thread ha....I just bought my APV Type 2 GLX m/t at Shaw 2 weeks ago, nice color: burgundy red.
I have some inquiries information maybe u can help me:
1) San ba pwede bumili ng accessories? Syempre ung mura. Baka pwede kayo magpost ng website or store names para macontact ko, kasi mahal sa casa. Gusto ko sana mga chrome, stepboards, leather seat covers, spoilers. bumber guards, etc. Ganda ng accesories sa Indonesia, nakita ko, yung Arena sa kanila.
2) One time sinagad ko steering wheel when turning, may kumatok sa steering, pero after nun, try ko uli maraming beses, wala na. normal ba ito? kasi i had older cars before, wala naman ganito sound. Well, baka normal since new pa.
3) I disagree with Suzuki na walang 1K PMS, dapat meron, standard un. The dealer cant explain to me why. Compared to a more reliable brand toyota, they have 1K PMS, why cant they have it? Tinitipid ba tayong customers? or over-confident lang sila sa product nila?
4) I heard AOG is required now by banks, but I read that you can comply, but haggle with the AOG inclusions so you can lessen the insurance cost.
5) I thank my salesman / dealer for giving me a back-up sensor for free (mamili daw ako either un or door visor), un n lng pnili ko para under warranty nila yung elevtrical. ung door visor, madali kong makakabit.
6) Sana naman may child lock proof, seat belt alarm, door open alarm, and rear mud guards as standard sa GLX variant without the added cost.
7) Always check the financing scheme offered to you. Kawawa naman ikaw kung wala kang alam sa financing booboos, kasi baka perahan k lng ng salesman/dealer na kukuhanan mo. --> I'll explain this in another thread.
8) Sana pwede pa nila gawan ng paraan na maliitan yung engine compartment at yung sa gulong kasi medyo tumatama sa feet ng driver.
9) Tingin ko matipid ito sa gas. Ewan ko bakit sabi ng iba malakas daw. P300 naka aircon, balikan Manila to Tanay..more than 70kms total nun...i think matipid naman.
10) Sana Ipod capable na lng instead of a tape deck ung stereo.

[meredith]

I like my APV, hindi ako nagsisisi sa pagbili ko, here are some reasons why i didnt choose yung mga kinonsider kong iba sa budget range ko:
1) I went to Toyota Shaw, kapatat lng ng Suzuki Shaw...feeling ang salespersons nila, hindi din sila ganung ka-friendly or accomodating para makakuha ka...namimili ba sila ng customers? or wala silang paki, kasi alam nilang Toyota sila, maraming bibili kahit hindi ka bumili?..na-turn off ako sa kanila.
2) Avanza - too small for my needs though I heard its more fuel efficient. kasi 1.5? at 1.6 si APV? i think incomparable kasi magkaiba engine displacement, though sa body pwede mo compare. Yung J kasi taxi eh.
3) APV GA - dapat ito bilhin ko, kaso 170K lang difference sa GLX, so ito n lng binili ko para hiindi na ako maglalagay ng burloloy kasi elegante and more respectable na tingnan (no offense sa GA owners), i dont need the other stuffs at SGX. company car.
4) Adventure GLX - masyado ng luma, pantaxi (no offense to adventure owners), company car. mahal na din
5) Innova J gas - company car. malakas sa gas...o well, 2L kasi. mahal na din.
6) Crosswind XL - too old design, taxi/company car. too basic looking, walang dating.
Sorry kung na-offend ko yung owners ng cars mentioned above. Just sharing my views.

[olidotcom]

Hi Ms. Meredith, welcome to tsikot APV thread!

Here are my answers regarding to some of your questions.. (reasearched this on other forums and websites because im also planning to have some optional stuff to be put on my van)

1) San ba pwede bumili ng accessories? Syempre ung mura. Baka pwede kayo magpost ng website or store names para macontact ko, kasi mahal sa casa. Gusto ko sana mga chrome, stepboards, leather seat covers, spoilers. bumber guards, etc. Ganda ng accesories sa Indonesia, nakita ko, yung Arena sa kanila.

- most I have read is may available sa Banawe, isang buong kalsada lang siya. some said sa 'Fronte' ang name ng shop. checked with Suzuki Macapagal.. quite high priced.. yung simple na rain gutters nila almost 6 thousand na ang price.. ang masama pa.. hindi siya original na pang suzuki... ibang manufacturer. (but i didnt care less... as long as fair ang price kaya lang hinde..)

2) One time sinagad ko steering wheel when turning, may kumatok sa steering, pero after nun, try ko uli maraming beses, wala na. normal ba ito? kasi i had older cars before, wala naman ganito sound. Well, baka normal since new pa.

- the tok! sound is being heard on most of APVs - not that much an issue 'daw' but still its quite bothersome.. ako din nakaka rinig ng tok from the start.. after that wala na. other apv members in other forums already had it checked, wala daw makitang problema.. its still in the 'grey area' where that sound came from.

3) I disagree with Suzuki na walang 1K PMS, dapat meron, standard un. The dealer cant explain to me why. Compared to a more reliable brand toyota, they have 1K PMS, why cant they have it? Tinitipid ba tayong customers? or over-confident lang sila sa product nila?

- i do agree with this, they should have the 2nd 10k maintenance free of charge as well.. but personally, since my APV is a daily drive, i cant afford to waste more than half a day to have it fixed/maintained in the CASA. (they really take time to have a simple change oil... more than half i day afaik.)

4) I heard AOG is required now by banks, but I read that you can comply, but haggle with the AOG inclusions so you can lessen the insurance cost.

- not sure regarding this... my insurance with BPI is around 11k+ (renewal ko na this july)

5) I thank my salesman / dealer for giving me a back-up sensor for free (mamili daw ako either un or door visor), un n lng pnili ko para under warranty nila yung elevtrical. ung door visor, madali kong makakabit.

- as long as its free.. take it! take it! hehehe....

6) Sana naman may child lock proof, seat belt alarm, door open alarm, and rear mud guards as standard sa GLX variant without the added cost.

- sorry, im using GA variant lang.. hehe.. no kids yet.. baka next year pa magka-baby if ever... and if so.. i-tatali ko siya sa likod para hindi siya makulit.. (joke lang :D)

7) Always check the financing scheme offered to you. Kawawa naman ikaw kung wala kang alam sa financing booboos, kasi baka perahan k lng ng salesman/dealer na kukuhanan mo. --> I'll explain this in another thread.

- yes indeed! got a good deal with ours. thanks to my brother..

8) Sana pwede pa nila gawan ng paraan na maliitan yung engine compartment at yung sa gulong kasi medyo tumatama sa feet ng driver.

- another known issue with APVs... yes.. the front wheel wells are really close... but it takes a while to adjust. buti na lang sanay ako sa masikip.. ahihihihi!

9) Tingin ko matipid ito sa gas. Ewan ko bakit sabi ng iba malakas daw. P300 naka aircon, balikan Manila to Tanay..more than 70kms total nun...i think matipid naman.

- APV specs from Suzuki said that it runs around 9km/liter.. comparing to other 1.6 SOHC engines, its normal to quite a bit higher... comparing to other 1.6 engines, they can go around 10 to 11km/liter... Im also continuing to observe my fuel consumption.. currently averaging around 9 to 10 km/liter.
* 16,500 Kms on the ODO
* Fully Synthetic Oil - Royal Purple 3W-30
* 35psi on all 4 wheels (going nitrogen this weekend yahuuu!)
* Shell Premium - Prevously on Shell Unleaded...

10) Sana Ipod capable na lng instead of a tape deck ung stereo.

- huh?!?!?! tape deck!?!??! I have a JVC low end CD player.. planning to change it into a pioneer DVD 7" touch screen TV.. (exited na ko!)

[MAXBUWAYA]

watchout for the uneven tyre wear in the front. Inner part gets consumed faster.

Also Front shock asborbers. I had premature leak on front left strut. though warranty claim naman.

Other than that its a great vehicle.

[jom's]

*olidotcom thanks a lot sir, kami naman gusto namin yung all-power features lalo na kung pasok sa budget he he ...

*maxbuwaya, sir sa mga nababasa ko dito sa thread, kayo po one of the first owner ng APV, tanong ko lang bro kung wala pa rin po bang pagbabago sa driver seat, hindi pa rin po ba sya umiinit?

convinced naman ako sa nababasa ko dito na hindi sya problema, pero yung wife ko po yung mostly gagamit and she will need more convincing from me regarding sa makina under the driver seat...

[rlzacarias]

Naupod din yung inner part ng gulong ko, I only noticed it when I replaced my stock wheels with mag wheels. Di ko lang alam kung front nga yun, malamang front nga dahil alam ko rigid axle yung rear.

Do I need camber alignment ba? Baka magkaganun din yung new tire/s ko, although inabot naman ng 5 years yung stock wheels before I replaced them.

[rotogold]

i suggest u put the a/c sa 2 or 3, pag malamig na ,saka mo hinaan.d advisable palagay aircon sa likod.

i was looking for a thread that discusses the pros and cons of a rear aircon on a GA model.

1. One dealer told me that they can install a rear aircon on a GA model.
2. Another dealer told me that this is not advisable as it will put pressure on the compressor (yun ang sabi niya)
3. Ako nalito because I have no way of knowing which is which.
4 Also, upgrading a GA to power windows will invalidate the warranty.


I would like to read all of the postings sana baka naman na discuss na before pero this thread has 49 pages na. effort.

Will appreciate it if somebody can respond to this. I went to Toyota to negotiate for an Avanza and I got what I wanted. considering the price I am working on.

Thanks and God Bless.

[olidotcom]

i was looking for a thread that discusses the pros and cons of a rear aircon on a GA model.

1. One dealer told me that they can install a rear aircon on a GA model.
2. Another dealer told me that this is not advisable as it will put pressure on the compressor (yun ang sabi niya)
3. Ako nalito because I have no way of knowing which is which.
4 Also, upgrading a GA to power windows will invalidate the warranty.


I would like to read all of the postings sana baka naman na discuss na before pero this thread has 49 pages na. effort.

Will appreciate it if somebody can respond to this. I went to Toyota to negotiate for an Avanza and I got what I wanted. considering the price I am working on.

Thanks and God Bless.

i have a GA model with an extra aircon installed by philair 1 year running with no problem at all. malamig pa!

[meredith]

[quote=olidotcom;1508860]Hi Ms. Meredith, welcome to tsikot APV thread!

Hi olidotcom:

Thanks for the information.
1) Baka meron ka pang ibang alam na specific stores to buy the accessosies besides the Fronte? Better yet baka alam mo na din prices nila. Lagi busy phone ng Fronte e. Mahal nga sa dealer. My agent advised me to get it outside. I bought my door visor for P1,700, ung magandang klase na hindi brittle. seems ok, sana mura nga yung P1,700.

2) Up to now, wala pa akong "tok" na naririnig muli. Pero medyo turn-off ako na hindi makita yung reason why ng mechanics sa casa ha. Simple problem na ganun, what more sa ibang problems. Sa ibang bansa, yung ganung "tok" maselan, pina-check agad. Hopefully, it doesnt do any harm to cause accident or future repair na tayong owners mag-shoulder pa ng cost. Does it mean, need ng mechanics ng suzuki mag-retrain or train sa suzuki mismo? Attention Suzuki dealers!

3) weekends ko lang gamitin APV ko, in one month of ownership, 400+ kms pa lng tinakbo. Minsan kasi mas madali ka pang makapunta sa destination mo ng commute considering the traffic, tapos added cost pa yung gas/parking. Since wala na nmn ako mbigat na dala to ofc, i'd rather commute and enjoy my APV weekends.

4) Mura insurance mo ha. P20K w/ AOG bigay sa akin e. Although alam ko pwede pa bumaba yun, kinuha ko na din para kumita naman yung ahente. Sa next year n lng ako kuha ng lower insurance...sana wala ng AOG this time.

5) hehehe...yeah as long as libre, take it...sana meron pa silang promo na free fuel like nuon. Hindi ko lang alam if free nuon talaga yung mga dvd player, monitors, roof rack or added cost un...pero kung free, sayang, sana umabot din...

6) Hahaha...wag mo naman itali, makakawala pa yan, ikadena mo na lang...hehehe...kidding aside...i really wish all those i mentioned were in the glx type 2. Though you have a GA, it is still good, maganda pa din ayusan yan.

7) Buti maalam bro mo sa financing!

8) i think the design is there to stay na just enough movement lang ang feet room sa floor.

9) parang 10-12 km/liter ang consumption ko. Sabi nga nila, tama lang for a 1.6L, pero sana it gets better while it gets older. depende siguro sa driving habit mo. around 2000 rpm lgi takbo ko, less braking, constant speed.

10) Naka-CD changer/MP3 na GLX, maybe you know, meron din kasing tape deck na kasama. To some, maybe they like it, but I prefer an ipod ready stereo. I have a JVC DVD player, but cant install it kasi ma-void daw warranty ko. So i'll install it in my next car, hopefully makabili ako ng Alto or Celerio this year. i wish...pero baka next year pa..tagal.

10) May ilalabas na kayang new look na APV sooner? wag naman sana muna. kabibili ko lang e. Sabi ng dealer, matatagalan pa daw before maglabas ng new look.
11) Pwede bang gamitan ng E10 ang APV? hinahanap ko sa manual, wala e. Siguro ask ko dealer. If may nakagamit na sa inyo, better fuel consumption ba?

[olidotcom]

been using shell unleaded for almost 1 year already. but just i just changed last week to shell premium... same fuel consumption (if there are any changes, i havent felt it yet) but what i felt is my engine has quite more power...

normal way ko to work is skyway.. the next day after i changed gasoline blends na-ramdaman ko siya that it has quite more umph nung nasa skyway na ko.

going back... yeah.. shell unleaded is safe.. acually.. afaik all gasoline has e10 blends already as mandated by our government.

[meredith]

I think some factors why they say the APV consumes more gas compared to Avanza:
1) Its a 1.6 compared to 1.5 or 1.3 Avanza.
2) It has a high boxy design, so the drag coeffiennt is much higher than avanza (w/ an aerodynamic design) when travelling especially at high speeds so its puts more pressure into the engine therefore needs more gas.
3) If im not mistaken, it is heavier than the avanza.
4) It has a truck design capacity ans suspension kasi meant for hauling purposes ito, unlike sa avanza na car like (i think same as vios) kaya tahimik ito, hindi matagtag.

Question: Pag sa lubak, kahit maliit, rinig niyo ba yung shocks sa front (or rear)? kasi unlike sa avanza, hindi rinig e. Poor sound insulation ba ito? or ganun ba talaga?

[jom's]

mga bros palagi ko nababasa lamang ng Avanza sa APV is underpinnings, nabasa ko rin na their is already improvements from the first generation....

ano po yung ibig sabihin nila dito? and how much of an advantage this gives the Avanza over the APV? in the long run ano po yung unang bibigay pag mahina ang underpinnings?

[meredith]

Although i'm a new APV GLX owner, I just thought of the differences or advantages of comparing an APV GA and Avanza J 7-seater:
APV GA (565K) Cheaper than Avanza J (618K), but is it worth it?

GA is single AC while J has dual AC, you need to shell out additional 35K for it to be dual AC, so total is 600K. So total difference now is 18K. Toyota gives 5K discount, Suzuki does not (I think), so the difference now is only 13K.

With 13K, the Avanza J is much loaded, a better single in dash CD, an airbag (I think), hub caps, fully carpeted, 1K PMS checking, hindi matagtag...all these the APV GA does not have....

So bottomline, I think the Avanza J is much value for money althugh 1.3L siyempre mas matipid OR pareho lang?

Although upside ng APV GA, 1.6L engine - more powerful, hindi ginagawang taxi at mas maluwag.

No offense to APV GA owners, just an observation. =)